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post #381 of 471 (permalink) Old 08-31-2019, 01:36 AM
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Cab chassis econolines have those also. And the newer Triton engines use a remote resvour
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last saturday they were also cutting up an F250 4x4. I asked the guy wielding the torch if he could cut out the rear, front leaf spring brackets. Here they are:



several minutes with an angle grinder will get them separated, and then I can return the leftovers back to the junkyard.
I had to chop on of those up to get that D60 out... bolt was rusted to the bushing sleeve. Cutting the back side was fun...

Wouldn't think those would be worth the trouble, except in your case, since they were chopping it up already. I'm still cussing myself for not saving the sterling out of my F350 while they had it upside down chopping the d60 out with a torch.



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I found a couple of the alternative Chevy Saginaw pump types today. A '99 S10 had the asymetrical offset type...I'm not convinced it actually pushes the reservoir cap over much, as the offset just replaces the typical filler neck angle. Plus, it was plastic at least on that example, so I decided it wasn't worth the trouble of pulling.

I also found the long tube & metal dipstick variety on a few S-trucks and Jimmys. I pulled one off the former, but there was no badging or door / door sticker to be sure exactly what model or year. (Edit: I forgot, it did have an insurance window sticker that said '98 S-Series.) Of note, the long tube does spin freely (it just inserts into a thick foam grommet), so it can be rotated out of the way. It has a tab welded onto the neck that bolts to the A/C bracket. That'll make it easy to fab an extension to bolt up elsewhere for support.

That variety of Saginaw setup is a significant PITA to remove. In addition to the three bolts that connect it to the accessory bracket, it's also bolted to a bracket in back that bolts to the engine in two places. None of the three bolts are easy to get to, so pick your poison how you want to attack it.
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There's a late 80s/early 90s crown vic or mercury that someone had pulled to front clip off of. Still had the 5.0 intact. I decided to start tearing down the front of the eninge, thinking I could get lucky and take out all the water pump/timing cover bolts without breaking them, and I did. Then I considered getting the timing cover, but didn't have a puller with me to get the balancer off. Maybe next time. Seemed odd to me that it had a cast iron water pump. The timing cover looked like it was in really good shape. Wonder if I could use it to replace the one on my 96?

I also took the shifter assembly off of one of those BW1354 transfer cases in the engine pile. I actually took the linkage from both of them, but the shifter bracket and giant pivot bolt off of one. Not sure if it was an AOD or C6. I'm sure the linkage would tell me, but I didn't look. The huge bolt on the E4OD was bent, or I would have taken it too.

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There's a late 80s/early 90s crown vic or mercury that someone had pulled to front clip off of. Still had the 5.0 intact. I decided to start tearing down the front of the eninge, thinking I could get lucky and take out all the water pump/timing cover bolts without breaking them, and I did. Then I considered getting the timing cover, but didn't have a puller with me to get the balancer off. Maybe next time. Seemed odd to me that it had a cast iron water pump. The timing cover looked like it was in really good shape. Wonder if I could use it to replace the one on my 96?

I also took the shifter assembly off of one of those BW1354 transfer cases in the engine pile. I actually took the linkage from both of them, but the shifter bracket and giant pivot bolt off of one. Not sure if it was an AOD or C6. I'm sure the linkage would tell me, but I didn't look. The huge bolt on the E4OD was bent, or I would have taken it too.
you pretty much need to use a 96' timing cover because of the crank position sensor for OBD2, its mounted on the timing cover
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you pretty much need to use a 96' timing cover because of the crank position sensor for OBD2, its mounted on the timing cover
*edited after I went and looked at my truck.

the 96 351 has the crank sensor bolted to a spot on the timing cover



The ones on Rockauto all appear to have this bolt hole as well, and some list fitting all the way back to 87 Crown Vics, so maybe that one will work for me.

Maybe all the fuel injected timing covers are the same?
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*edited after I went and looked at my truck.

the 96 351 has the crank sensor bolted to a spot on the timing cover



The ones on Rockauto all appear to have this bolt hole as well, and some list fitting all the way back to 87 Crown Vics, so maybe that one will work for me.

Maybe all the fuel injected timing covers are the same?
Those two holes are drilled and tapped into the housing so I doubt a used pre 96 cover would have them, my 95 5.8 doesn't have those holes however an aftermarket cover would probably have them.
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The EEC-II/EEC-III timing cover was completely different, but I wonder if the damper reluctor ring is the same? The reluctor tooth you can see in the pic looks very close. Does that reluctor ring have four lobes? Because I want to do EEC-V on Babe's 1979 351W, and if the damper/reluctor is the same design, I won't have to replace the damper...just the timing cover.

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@67galax I have a question for you.

When I was picking on that 4dr 67 galaxie I noticed the wing windows crank open. Have you ever been inside that mechanism before? Could it be adapted to a bronco? With the right know-how and modifications I would think it could



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You would need to use the whole assembly as the regulator mounts to the vent window and the arm/shaft/pivot for the vent window slides into the top of the regulator. Think it might be a fair amount of work to try and make them work....








....They're still worth a few buck though, so you may want to pull 'em.
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You would need to use the whole assembly as the regulator mounts to the vent window and the arm/shaft/pivot for the vent window slides into the top of the regulator. Think it might be a fair amount of work to try and make them work....








....They're still worth a few buck though, so you may want to pull 'em.
Not sure if it's even still there, as it's never been listed on their website inventory...

I was envisioning grafting my vent window frame on to the regulator. Looks like if I just take that pivot shaft off the old frame and weld it to mine.

I do appreciate the pics. I can at least see the shape and size. I think it'd be a cool unique mod. With no AC, I use my wing vents alot
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Not sure if it's even still there, as it's never been listed on their website inventory...

I was envisioning grafting my vent window frame on to the regulator. Looks like if I just take that pivot shaft off the old frame and weld it to mine.

I do appreciate the pics. I can at least see the shape and size. I think it'd be a cool unique mod. With no AC, I use my wing vents alot
sorry I'm late to the game. Looks like you've found your answer. Out of all the 67 fords I had, I never really messed with those. I did think they were neat, those tiny little cranks.
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Made it to two yards today, saw some neat stuff. Also had the tornado sirens going off at one point lol.

I found a 4th type of 4.9L/7.5L inlet duct.. this one has a hot air choke provision and a VERY restrictive part upstream of that. Was on an 87 f150 with a 300. You can see the hot air scavenger on the exhaust manifold in the background. I didnt pull this P.O.S.



And then a 90s E150 with shorty headers! Rock-on van guy! Sag is still there if someone wants it. Winner road pick n pull in KCMO. There is also a 460 sag serpentine setup there too.



Made it to the way back where the ol 67 galaxie is, and found someone had seriously scrounged on it since I was last there. The 302 was gone, as were the window cranks and the vent window cranks (damnit!)

But I did score the regulators for the vent windows! They weren't too hard to get out, once i found all the screws. I left the whole frame and glass assembly and just took what you see here.



Also got this standard rotation flex fan and WP pulley off a 300.



Nearby was a totalled 90s f350 CnC. It looked like it hit a train head on. The turbo housing was broke off. The transmission (zf5 2wd) was not in line with the engine. Whoever was driving had two broken legs I'm sure. Found me a wall hanger on the bed. This is (obviously) an old one as they've had a location in Topeka for a number of years.

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I went today over lunch. No new fords. But I went back and got another look at that crown vic I was thinking of pulling the timing cover from. Sure enough, no provision for a crank sensor, as @JScatt said.

I did pick up the double serpentine crank pulley, thinking maybe I could use it to run a York OBA. When I got it home I compared it to the one from my 96, and, of course, they don't line up either.

I suppose its a dumb idea to make a pulley spacer to align the two-belt pulley to work with my 96 and have that extra set of grooves for a second serpentine belt for an OBA compressor?

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What is the different types of 300/460 air intake tubes? they are the same from 88-96/97 correct?

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What is the different types of 300/460 air intake tubes?
Two typical types, smooth walled and accordion section. Pretty much identical in shape other than that. I think the smooth walled one comes without the bracket to bolt to the radiator core support.

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What is the different types of 300/460 air intake tubes? they are the same from 88-96/97 correct?

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I've now seen 4 types.

The one above with the hot air choke. It was on an 87. Pic for posterity



Then they went to a one-piece design in, I believe, 88. That was the accordion one. Like this



Somewhere around 90, they went to the smooth style. In 92 there was a change I havent figured out. In 93, they added a small indentation for clearance on the bottom side. Since these arent accordion style, they dont need the brace at the core support.

Right before the bend into the airbox, on the 'southern' edge is where the indentation is. F3 part is on top, F2 is on bottom. Otherwise, these two are identical.

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Went back again today to look at the bigger trucks and see if I could find a serpentine york. No luck. I did find a similar air compressor as the one I found on the industrial 300. This one was on a cat diesel in a ford 8000.



I also found this weird 70s/80s motorhome. Not the classic GM motorhome with the Toronado V8, but it was powered by a GM engine. It had a York 210 with a dual V-belt setup.



Its a partial 'cab over' design, like a van, so it will be a chore to remove it if I decide I need it. But, its been under a hood the whole time as opposed to the other York 210 thats on a 5cyl Mercedes diesel on the other side of the yard.

One other thing that got me more interested were these horns



I reached around back to find the nuts/bolts that were holding them on to find that they are air powered. I followed the tube under the vehicle, but gave up when I decided I'd probably dirty up my work clothes crawling underneath. I'll certainly find the source of compressed air on this motorhome tomorrow.
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We need a pic of the motorhome so we can ID the rig. If it had air brakes, you'd see an air compressor on it also. But I'm willing to bet there's no air tank, just a stand-alone air mover that blows the horns. They don't need pressure to blow, just volume.

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We need a pic of the motorhome so we can ID the rig. If it had air brakes, you'd see an air compressor on it also. But I'm willing to bet there's no air tank, just a stand-alone air mover that blows the horns. They don't need pressure to blow, just volume.
Here's the far away:



If you can't see the name, it says Itasca Spectrum. ???

I got the horns, and lying down under the truck, I pulled on the hose that fed them. It came off in my hand from I don't know where. Didn't feel like spending a load of time underneath it looking for where it came from.

I did see a big propane or CNG tank on the driver's side. On the passenger side, behind a door I pried open was this:



Not sure if it would be worth trying to get out, if it works, or what they'd charge me if I brought it up front.

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