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post #21 of 124 (permalink) Old 12-03-2010, 10:55 PM
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Porter Cable was the cat's meow back in the day, but like everyone else, they couldn't compete without outsourcing. All the good name brands have different lines of the same product, including Millwaukee. Dewalt makes the same stuff I have, in China too. I was looking for "Made in USA" in any brand, but couldn't find it. The Dewalts cost more than any other tool(s) they carried. It was because they were made in Mexico, when all the other brands were made in China. You could feel the difference. It was worth the extra $$$ for me to have the peace of mind.

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Quick poll here........how many of you older guys here remember Rockwell power tools? Or even better, the Stanley's?

Wowch, thems were the days.....
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Rockwell power tools were bulky, heavy, and lasted forever. They were owned by Delta, last I heard.

I used to have a 1937 Delta table saw. That bitch was cast iron, top to bottom. The table tilted, instead of the blade. The motor (oe) was listed as 3/4 hp, but it would rip 6x6s, all day long, and not slow down. I guess, in the 30's, 1 horsepower, was a Clydesdale horse, not a shetland pony!!
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Quick poll here........how many of you older guys here remember Rockwell power tools? Or even better, the Stanley's?

Wowch, thems were the days.....
I have a LOT of Stanley/Proto in my tool box, but it's all approx 15-30 years old. Some bought second hand (3/4 ratchet, breaker, sockets), some bequeathed (sp?) few auto specialty tools. Damn they dont make them like they used to.

And with electrical tools, I've ran away from Dewalt also. I still have one Milwaukee 1/2 inch chuck, plug in hand drill built here in the USA. Otherwise I've gone Bosch, at least it's euro trash instead of china crap.
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Last Porter Cable tool I bought, has "made in Taiwan" on it.
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Worked neigbors 95 chevy 2500 the heater fan resistor had burnt out called the zone and found they were $1 cheaper with a lifetime warranty. Cool right?Nope got back to his house went to put it in and found out the connector is made backwards and will not work went to another store to exchange it and both the ones they had were backwards also. p/n: DR776 Advance had the part but it costed more and had a 1yr warranty. And yes I checked the year before just incase I had a odd one.

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Everything I've purchased from Autozone has been junk. I did'nt know it was junk until I started using actual Motorcraft and Ford parts. A good example is the fan clutch. Bought one from Autozone made in China, put it on and it sounded like an airplane propeller when it kicked in. Got another one from NAPA which was built entirely different and it worked better. Over the weekend went to the yard, got a fairly new original Ford clutch and put it on.
OMG! what a huge difference! Also if you look at the fins on the original Ford part they are angled and there are lots more of them and the spacing seems to be consistent. If you look at the other junk make ones they are nothing like the original.
I could site more examples but you get the message.

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Took my distributor to a machine shop today to have the PIP sensor replaced (I don't have a press). What should have cost me maybe $20 in labor ended up costing me $65 (plus an extra $30 for a "Made in USA" sensor) because the Echlin part I got at NAPA was poorly made and wouldn't fit. I ended up with a Standard sensor (which is made by the same damn company!~this one just happened to be an oldie that was sitting on the shelf at the machinists)... I've noticed that a lot of the stuff at NAPA has been slowly converting over to Chi-Com junk.

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Yep, you're right, I just looked at the fan clutch that I got from NAPA and it says the fooker is made in China.
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That's because NAPA started losing business to AutoZone and Advance. It was a matter of survival. If they did not switch over to "MAde in China" parts, they would have eventually gone out of business. It sucks, but I can't fault them for it. A national chain is not going to survive if only a small handful of people are willing to pay any price for "Made in USA" parts.
Go to NAPA's website and research your part/part # before you go into the store. A lot of the stuff they carry is still made here, but has to be ordered. Most stores won't stock them since they're priced higher. I can get "Made in USA" brake rotors for my truck still, but I have to order them. My store only stocks the Chinese line. If they quoted the "Made in USA" price to every customer that walked in the door, they'd walk right out and go two blocks down the street to AutoZone. Luckily I've been going to my local NAPA for years. The guys there know me and they know I don't purchase the Chinese crap unless it's a last resort. They always quote me for the good stuff first and tell me "I can have it for you tomorrow".

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Oh, I'm still going to go to NAPA, I'm just going to be more careful on picking my parts! I've been a pretty loyal customer to them since I was tall enough to climb up onto the stools they had in front of the counter so I could play with the gear oil display (the one you would turn the handle and the gears would pull the oil up on them).

A really cool feature of NAPA's website is their order confirmation setup, I can confirm if the part is in stock, pay for it online, and get a phone call confirming that they pulled the part, all before I ever leave the house, like you said, I'm just going to have to really watch the branding, I would have never thought the Echlin brand would have gone Chi-Com.

P.S.~when I went into the store to return the part I got absolutely no B.S., I didn't even have my receipt on me! I'm still pissed about the whole thing, but at least I'm not angry like I was. Giving me my money back without any hassle went a long ways towards calming me down!

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That's what I like about NAPA. They're still franchised "mom & pop" stores where the owner has a personal stake when it comes to customer service. Unlike the chains that have a store manager and zombies that just don't give a rats a$$.

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and by Glayd here @ http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...d.php?t=198853
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"I'm posting this so that hopefully others might learn from my headaches.

I've had my BKO about 7 months now and she was most likely used as a farm truck before I got it so she was pretty beat to hell. So I started fixing her up:
In the process of engine repairs, exhaust system and suspension I also did the following:

Went to Autozone and got a new water pump - It failed 2 months later -
Replaced it with one from NAPA

Went to Autozone and got a new fan clutch - sounded like a B52 bomber taking off when it kicked in - Replaced it with one from NAPA

Went to Autozone and got a new belt tensioner - the fooker sqeaked loudly-
Replaced it with one from NAPA

Went to Autozone and got a new EGR solenoid - constant code 34/35 started showing up- Replaced it with one from NAPA

Went to Autozone and got a 195 degree thermostat that never opened
Replaced it with one from NAPA

Finally recently got a smog pump from Autozone - constant squeaking
Replaced it with one from NAPA

To make a long story short - in trying to save money I cost myself alot of time and headaches.

The moral of the story is - Don't buy the cheap arse Chinese made crap from Autozone. Even Pep Boys has better quality.

Since upgrading the quality of the parts I've been using to restore my BKO
I've probably gained 3 to 5 MPG, peace of mind, and a much smoother running engine.

Also in case anyone is wondering about the quality of JBG - I just installed my new rear drive shaft from JBG and the quality is great, vibration free, perfectly balanced and my BKO shifts and runs like a new truck.

Hope this is helpful to someone else..."

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Any altenators from Advance have been jusk for me at least.
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yo, thanks!

I am finding that the Purloator A24378 air filter is not fitting well in my 96; the gasket is too large to close the box properly without force. I can see the gasket between the cover and box bottom edges.

Purolator was the OEM to ford for our Broncos; so I'll go back to the FORD Genuine Parts FA-1046

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AC accumulator from Napa/Autozone/Advance. All have the same part number. some aren't anywhere close to fitting. I finally got one that was close but the bracket has to be modified. Again same part number. They're listed under different brands for each store.
part number is 33091. All have the same picture IIRC.

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Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS); also called RABS Sensor & Differential Speed Sensor (DSS) Defective; "... Anyway, the autozone VSS looks almost identical to the ford VSS. They are both now made of plastic. You have to look very closely to see minor differences. However, the magnet inside does not budge in the ford part, no rattling noise at all. The Autozone part rattles when shaken, ie. the magnet has room to move inside the plastic housing.[/b]It's was a big lesson for me. Wrong readings from the VSS can cause so much E4OD problems...erratic shifting, late shifting, hard shifting, feeling like it was in neutral, as well as engine cutting off at stop lights---Even if it registers correct readings on your speedometer..."
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yo, thanks!

I am finding that the Purloator A24378 air filter is not fitting well in my 96; the gasket is too large to close the box properly without force. I can see the gasket between the cover and box bottom edges.
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Not a defective part per se but defective auto part stores. The big three auto part stores (Pep Boys, O'reily, Autozone) have pretty much run all of the independent auto part stores out of town. This weekend I found out the last place that carried the only accessory belts I use, the Goodyear Gatorback, no longer sells them. I guess it's mail order only for now on.

And no, Napa doesn't carry them either. They just carry the same crap Anco belts everyone else does.

Oh yea and A-1 Cardone has gone to a "Universal" fit smog pump that doesn't fit at all. They re-casted the housing and it's so bad it won't even bolt to my Bronco anymore. Doesn't matter the stupid things only last 9 months anyway.




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