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How the [email protected]#K did I get taken in? PLEASE BEWARE Gotta spend time tomorrow to straighten out this freaking mess. The wife caught it and said "it might be a scam" be careful. Needing {as most are}, these knee braces and back braces, I was contacted by a telemarketer and low and behold, they gots me.

It sucks that people in need still get taken in. Today, I find out feds raided many of these so called medicare-orthopedic-brace-scam. After a few days of wondering where my "miracle brace" was at, I decided to call in today, to my surprise, no reply.

I'm just pi$$ed at myself for not going with my gut and say "this is probably to good to be true".

Will let others know watt I can find out from medicare about this ongoing problem.

Thanks for reading 'bout my problems, but want to spread the word out to others that may not know !

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Wow; it's really a scam?

I've seen their commercials many times; and commercial time is not cheap.


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EDIT: Sure enough!

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Come on brother! WTH?!?

1. they called you
2. offered you something "free"

Alright... now I'll be a little sympathetic. Not my strong suite but... sorry you got scammed.
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Come on brother! WTH?!?

1. they called you
2. offered you something "free"

Alright... now I'll be a little sympathetic. Not my strong suite but... sorry you got scammed.
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Yes my Brother, That was the strangest part of all. The wifey had mentioned it to me about these braces and I said "It sounds to good to be true", if it were for real my Drs. probably would have prescribed it to me.

Low and behold, they contacted me last week and said that I qualified for knee brace and back brace ! It's only been a week and hopefully I can get medicare to retrace these steps, but we'll see. I am wondering how the f#$k did they get my info?


That's watt made me believe they were legit, they had all my information !

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Yeah those just hid the pain and it will manifest itself elsewhere.

These apply pressure on the illiotibial (it band) band (strap of tissue that inserts at your hip and goes down to the outside of your knee and down. The IT band will rub on the knee and cause inflammation and it hurts like a a bitch.

These straps apply pressure on the it band and reroute the tension up the chain... Eventually the pain starts to the north a bit later.

All of this originally is caused my have a weak posterior chain (your ass) and not being balanced enough. Because we all sit too much. However if you are a runner or a cyclist it comes from not enough lateral movement and too much forward motion >>> embalance

The trick is to rest , knock down the inflammation and the strengthen the posterior chain with simple therapy.

The back...... That's usually more complicated. Outside of traumatic injury it's usually due to your hip tipping forward>> strain on the lumbar.

I had both. I used to ride my bike 250-500 miles a week and run 50 a week. Then sit on my ass 8 hours a day at work.

No miracles medical devices here.


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I had both. I used to ride my bike 250-500 miles a week and run 50 a week. Then sit on my ass 8 hours a day at work.

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Had one call Friday, Free back brace. Now I asked the lady how was it free? OOhh you pay nothing. Just give me your info and it will be mailed right out.
I had to ask her? Well you called, so you should have the info.
Have a great day and hug up.
Today called I was told, your auto insurance is being canceled. Give us this info. And we will take care of it. Sad part the guy could not speak English even good.
Sad our Government allows this to happen. When they opened up our cell numbers to this crap. Only where they can send out crap to help there elections...
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That's watt made me believe they were legit, they had all my information !
Yea... that's the problem with all this intrusive information sharing/selling sh!t these days. We (each of us) have become products for companies to buy, use and re-sell, amongst themselves. That's why I do everything I can to avoid "free services" that require any personal or financial information and generally work to maintain my privacy. It's not about having something to hide, it's about abuse and that it's nobody else's damn business. I refuse to use my social security number for anything that doesn't absolutely require it and then, only if it's something I absolutely need.
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Guys, this is the rule you should use, and I'm not kidding.

If they contact you and you didn't ask them to, it's a scam. Absolutely no reputable company will contact you unsolicited in any manner, phone, email, text, doorbell. They will use some form of advertisement, whether is' tradional ads, product placement or sponsorship.

I am the cheapest person on the face of the earth but I know to fight the urge when I'm offered a 4 star restaurant quality steak at my front door, discount Canadian meds in my email or lower APR for my credit cards from a kind Indian gentleman on my phone.

Never ever EVAR purchase anything without doing a bit of searching about it. Our government is completely impotent when it comes to pieces of shit stealing your money in this manner. You can't trust the fact that they are able to continue their widespread theft as a sign of safety.

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Update: Today I contacted medicare and they said they are receiving numerous calls and complaints about these kinda companies. I never gave them my social, but that is not to say they don't have it. Either way medicare is gonna send me a new card with a different number.

I also contacted my bank and let them know to look out for any fraudulent activities. They too cancelled my cards and will issue me new ones.

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Yea... that's the problem with all this intrusive information sharing/selling sh!t these days. We (each of us) have become products for companies to buy, use and re-sell, amongst themselves.
I wasn't expecting this to be free as I have seen the ads that mentioned "they could be a small fee".

I did catch it in time and I just feel bad for the elderly that rely get taken in by these low-life scum-bags.

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If they contact you and you didn't ask them to, it's a scam. Absolutely no reputable company will contact you unsolicited in any manner, phone, email, text, doorbell. They will use some form of advertisement, whether is' tradional ads, product placement or sponsorship.
Yeah, schwim I for the most part tell them to piss off even when they come knocking on my door. But this was a real wake up call for me. Again, it's sad how much money they got away with stealing before the FEDS raided them. We know that money would never be returned.

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Glad it was only cards that can be canceled and reissued.
Thanks, me too. I know as mentioned above, companies buy and sell your information but how the heck they get all my medical info is beyond me.

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I've gotten those calls about "knee pain", about "I've fallen and I can't get up" notification devices, and others that I just hang up on. It's not difficult to find someone's age, my guess is that once they look at a certain age group, the chance of finding someone with a bad knee is fairly high, so the calls start, hoping to get a hit. If you have a bad knee, it appears that the called knew your condition, in actuality, they didn't know sh*t, but just got lucky.
(The latest was that my Microsoft computer license ran out and I need to call some 855 number to get it back before all the information is removed. And of course the Cardmember Services chick that calls every couple of weeks to lower my credit card rate.)
On the rare occasion that I get a real person, I have asked them what there are wearing, or when that foreign accented person named "Dave" is on the line, I've told them that I know Dave and that they are not Dave. Look at it this way, the longer you can tie them up on the phone, the less time they have to screw with someone else. I have also been known to disparage certain religions and ethnicity.

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Here's one I've been hit with recently, that the ol' lady and I have been laughing about.

I get an email every few weeks that appears to be from my own email address (on the "surface") and goes on to explain how I've been hacked through porn sites I've visited and my computer has been hijacked with key loggers that have shared all my personal and financial logins and taken video captures of the porn I'm watching, with a mirror image of me "enjoying" said content, taken by my own video camera. If I don't transfer $1000.00 (or $2000.00, depending) in bitcoin to a given account by a given date, the supposed bribery material will be sent to everyone in my contacts. I've waited out 3 different "deadlines", so far.

There are many reasons I know this is impossible bullshit... and yet, you KNOW... more than 1 poor, ignorant, bastard out there has fallen for this sh!t.


Years ago, a good friend contacted me wanting to "borrow" some money. Another friend had already lent him a couple hundred and he wanted the same or more from me. I said I'd be happy to do whatever I could for him but I wanted to know the situation and see if there were any other ways I might be able to help... genuinely. Turned out he thought he was going to send money to some foreign bitch to flee her country and once she was free she'd be worth a couple hundred grand, etc., blah, blah, blah. Poor sucker had been being baited by this bitch (if it was even a chick at all) for months. I literally looked up the well documented scam script, printed it out and gave it to him. We rarely talk anymore. It's a shame.

@schwim pretty much nailed it on the head. If I'm not seeking out something on my own, I'm not interested.
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For all of you wondering how your data gets into the hands of someone you didn't want it to, it's being sold and stolen.

In 2017, Equifax handed over the credit records of 1.5 million Americans. If you want to put it into another frame of mind, the credit reporting agencies are private companies that somehow managed to retrieve and store all of your private credit data without you ever approving of it. It's not a government agency and nobody ever willingly allowed them to do it. These companies store everything about any transaction having to do with your name, address, SSN or with transactions that can be tied to it(your daughter opened a bank account while living at home but moved to college. They can determine this exact scenario based on the bank account having records of school purchases and a change of address).

Yahoo mail's entire 3 billion user accounts hacked Seriously. 3 billion. That 3 billion "private" email accounts that had been placed into the hands of bad actors. Think of how much data your email accounts hold. Then multiply that amount by 3 billion(here's that in zeros: 3,000,000,000 ). Pause for shudder.

Facebook's latest breach exposed data of over half million users. "HA!" you say, "I'm not dumb enough to have a FB account! Those dumb bastards deserve to lose their information!" Well, I've got some bad news for you, smart guy.... you're one of those dumb enough to still be giving FB your information. Want to know how? Why, by visiting a website exactly like FSB! That's right, even though you might have never registered an account on FB, FSB uses Facebooks services (advertising, analytics, like buttons) which allows FB access to all the data that is passed through your browser. That data is then combined from all of the billions of sites that use the same FB systems and that data is bundled together, combined with user data purchases from other systems and sold to everyone willing to buy it. Take a moment and think about every site you visit, everything you type and every link you click then imagine that being in a single ball of data. Then imagine this not only getting sold to people you never intended to see it but imagine it also being given away to people that steal it by the millions of users.

Google! - It's like FB above but larger by orders of magnitude . The number of pies they have their fingers in is just mind boggling. If you have a Android smart phone, gmail account, onboard mapping software, newer vehicle with Android auto, use the Chrome browser or OS, their search engine, visit sites using their analytics, etc, then they have a full profile on you. That data gets used in any way you can imagine.

How about terms of service you never actually read? Those pretty much always state that any information you provide to them can be "shared" with "affiliates". That means they sell your data to anyone and everyone that's willing to buy it, good or bad. This can be done at the website you visit, at Lowes when you get your 10% military discount, use your Ingles discount card, use your bank debit card, even when you pay a visit to your doctor. In pretty much every scenario you can imagine, your private data is manipulated in any way that result in more money.

This could go on forever but we've got our high points. My point isn't to depress anyone but to let you know why you can't trust anyone, regardless of what information they have about you. If someone were to call you and state that they were from your bank, naming the bank, confirming where you live, your phone number, the last four of your social, and your bank debit card number, it would sound official but all it really means is they got hold of your Experian data after it was taken and distributed on the dark web.

We live in a world in which private data is no longer a thing which means the way you used to handle transactions has to change as well. If you're dealing with a sales pitch of any kind, start out assuming that they are trying to steal from you and let them try to prove to you that they're not.

If it's a contact from someone stating they represent your bank, the FBI, your credit card, etc., simply ask them for the number to call them back, then hang up and search that phone number on the web. If it doesn't return as a phone number linked to the agency in question, you know it's a scam. even if it does, call the number you have on record for the agency and let them know about the call you got.

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@Mikey350 , Are you saying just because I turned 117, My knees and back are automatically shot ?
Thanks for your concern .

@BikerPepe` , Yeah I too get those emails all the time. I simply just delete them.

@schwim , That makes all the sense in the World. I was even thinking they may have someone from a Drs. office or Insurance Co. in their pockets and don't care about the HIPPA law.

I just happened to call last week for a problem we were experiencing with our cable and "Kevin" was unable to understand my English and I his. I simply asked "Are you in the U.S. ? To my surprise he answered "NO" . I then asked if I can speak to someone in the U.S. and he transferred me to someone here {at least he spoke really good English} and was able to tell me that the problem I was having was simply caused by a car accident down the street and we will be back on-line shortly.


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This New Wave Criminality & the B.S. Hassles they cause....
Glad you didn't get "Nicked" @allcruisen


My Story,?
One time my Lil' Missus came to me freaking out about a Phone call
from the "Dept of State",,,,, (Caller ID)

They called back later and represented the "State Dept",
momma yelled out and got me on the Phone (she's mostly deaf),

I asked Who Dis'?
Some Indian sounding mo' fo' said he represents the State Dept,
I laughed and said "Yeah Right" and hung up.

They haven't' hauled me off to the pokey yet....

@schwim you freaked me out again....
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I feel like Randy Quaid in Independence Day: "I've been sayin' it! I've been sayin' it for years!"

I do everything I can to keep my private info private. When FB wants my phone number so I can re-access my account if it crashes, I say "No." I'll chance that possibility. I also don't list a hometown (mainly because I'm a Navy Brat, and the 'town' was a military base), and a couple other items, because those pieces of information are pieces of a puzzle. Now, I do believe the corporations are somewhat responsible in how our info is handled, because if thieves were smart, they'd pony up the bucks, buy everyone's info, put the puzzles together, then clean us all out. And I'm sure their RoI would be manyfold. I'm also certain there will be such a backlash from the thieves doing something similar, and cashing in on the rich who have their money overseas; I think one or two slipups will open the floodgates.

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