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Ring and Pinion gear suppliers/manufacturers....who do you recommend?

I am looking at going 4.10/4.11 in my 94....going to stay with the 31's...but who makes quality gears but not over the top on price? I know of Yukon for the Dana 44 and potentially Ford for the 8.8, but wanted some of your thoughts and experiences...

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I’ve always run whatever is cheapest from summit/eBay/rockauto, as long as it is set up properly I’ve never broken one. Others may disagree, but I don’t think it really matters unless you are making huge power or towing constantly or something
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get a used D44HD/D50 third member with 4.10 already and swap it in. you can even get one on ebay for as cheap as the ring and pinion itself will cost.

for the rear i would use Ford Racing probably. typically i use USA Standard or Dana SVL but i dont have an 8.8 anymore in any of my trucks.
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I've been running Yukon with good results. Not that long ago, if I was swapping gears in an 8.8 I would only use Ford racing gears as they were machined to tight tolerances that allowed you to basically set them up the same way the old ones came out. Supposedly Ford has recently changed their gear maker and the tolerances aren't as close as they used to be.

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I was looking at SVL, but their description made me very uncomfortable:

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SVL™ brand products are the smart choice for older (post warranty) vehicles, and those used seasonally or in lower mileage and light duty situations. When genuine original equipment performance specifications are either not required or exceed your budget constraints, SVL products keep your vehicle rolling while protecting your bottom line.
Basically stating they don't even meet OE standards. Not sure how I'd feel about that.
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I put this in my rear diff behind a 427w and so far its held up. I towed a 4000lb trailer over 500miles. If / when it breaks I'll probably use a 9in Currie if I can afford it
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i have done some BRUTAL toploader clutch dumps on Richmond gears with no problems. i buy Richmond only.

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I have done some BRUTAL Toploader clutch-dumps on Richmond gears, i only buy Richmond gears.

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I was looking at SVL, but their description made me very uncomfortable:



Basically stating they don't even meet OE standards. Not sure how I'd feel about that.
I spoke to a tech at Bronco Graveyard......He stated SVL gears were made by SPICER...I would have thought those as quality products, but I remember reading that statement about SVL and I shuddered a little when I was done.....anyone else know anything about them?
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I spoke to a tech at Bronco Graveyard......He stated SVL gears were made by SPICER...I would have thought those as quality products, but I remember reading that statement about SVL and I shuddered a little when I was done.....anyone else know anything about them?
No kidding. Spicer makes good stuff.
But the description of the gears reminds me of the kind of replacement parts you use right before you sell it.


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It's an economy line gear; that in itself should answer your question. There is a difference between Premium and Economy for a reason, Economies usually tend to be louder. Supposedly SVL's are made in India for Dana/Spicer by Punjab Bevel Gears.
There is another thread about this on this forum: https://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum...ion-brand.html

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Thanks Lads....I think I'll just stick to Richmond or Yukon...
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its not make by Spicer. its made overseas in i think India i believe. its to offer ratios not normally made buy Spiocer. but it follows Danas specs. i used them in my last D50 regear and had no issues. its also what is used in most Dana crate axles and competitively priced so im starting to use it more

USA Standard is basically Yukon Gear that isnt quite within spec but still usable and decent quality which is why i use to use them.

the reason some brands are cheaper than others doesnt really mean they are worse. alot of it comes to advertising. Yukon does probably the most advertising and they are the more expensive. heck they almost always have some sort of rebate and ads going on and almost anyone working on axles will know the Yukon name. if you mentioned other names like Richmond or Revolution, alot of people have not heard of those brands tho they are still popular

i know somewhere on another forum was a list of different gear manufactures with some details of each. practically all brands were made overseas somewhere with a few exceptions. and basicly no one brand uses the same manufacture to produce all of the different R&P they offer so some gears will be better quality than others. however in the end most gear manufactures will be fine to use and the quality has gone up quite abit over the years. some gears may be abit noisier than others which may be why the Dana SVL says that is because it might not be as quiet as OEM but doesnt mean its weaker.


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Damned good info there, Bro!
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I went with Motive for my 8.8. The super-cheap black box R&P. All the "experts" online said those gears would whine, break, etc. In reality, they set up just fine and are quieter than the USA Standards (made by Yukon) I put in the front (that's my set-up, not the gear's fault). So my experience is that brand doesn't matter as long as they're lapped as a set from the factory and then set up properly by the installer.
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but as i said before, i would look for a 4.10 front third member from an F250 and jsut swap it in. 44HD or 50 will swap right in. jsut gotta do the c-clip eliminator in the 50 or use a 50 stub shaft which is a good upgrade anyways

this guy sells them, bought one from him a long time ago. prices have gone up some but 400$ is still good if you dont have anything local. ring and pinion + install kit + new carrier would cost more than that alone. and its genuine Spicer and already factory installed.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/dana-44-hig...k/264276777947

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Front-...k/264276777937
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for front gears, i bought SVL. they are made in india. i can send pics of the box/gears if you'd like. they aren't installed yet. for the front, i wasn't as concerned since i don't use 4x4 very often. however, for the rear i plan to buy new ford racing gears.

i installed SVL axle shafts on the rear. 2 years later so far so good (knock on wood)
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Are you installing the gears yourself?

Reason I ask, most places that do a lot of gears - they normally don't warranty work when the customer brings in their own gears.
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