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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-19-2007, 02:28 PM Thread Starter
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Thumbs up Chexmix is making the SAS dream a reality

OK I got my laughs out his morning, time to get down to business.

Don't have any questions just yet, hopefully I search . I'm hopping to have this all done by mid January. Time will tell.

Here is my (incomplete) parts list as of now:
1976 D44 & 1976 Ford 9" Complete- From 1976 Parts Truck, sold off - $ Even
D44 ARB - From 1989 Parts Bronco, sold off - $ Even
D44 4.10 Ring and Pinion - Traded with 1989 Bronco - $ Even
Upper Coil buckets w/ shock mount, Radius arms 76 F150 - $ Even
Warn Hubs - Carry over from Bronco
Track bar from 76 F150, fab frame mount $0
Sky Shackle flip - bought days ago, calling it even.

Dana 44 Rebuild
- R&P revers cut solid axle install kit, (Carrier Bearings, Pinion Bearing, Pinion Seal) and spicer u-joints (completeoffroad.com)
- Wheel bearings and seals - (autozone)
- Calipers Kits - (autozone)
- New Brake Pads - (autozone LLT cabon-met)
- Brake lines - (rockauto shipped to work/biz)

Ford 9" Rebuild
- 4.10 Gears, basic install - completeoffroad.com
- Wheel Bearings and seals - Autozone
- Brake pads (shoes) - Autozone
- Drum spring kit - Autozone
- Extended brake line - 4wheelparts
- E-Brake line - $0 Gift from BroncoBoy23!

Lift Parts
- Radius Arm extensions - (stonecrushersteering.com/OTHER_PRODUCTS.html)
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- Fab your own extension out of 1.5 OD DOM with with 7/8 tube adapters (R&L) and Polly Bushing and billet studs (R&L)
OR
- Buy a pair of plated and extended arms from chbyboat
- 4" 76 Superlift springs - JBG
- 2 Front shocks (superlift)-JBG
- 7 c-bushing set -JBG

Steering
- Chevy Tie Rod ends (broncofix.com) - Autozone
- DOM for drag link and tie rod
- Threaded Tube Adapter - (Pollyperformance or ballisticfabrication)
- Rancho dual shock steering stabilizer - $0 - From Bronco

I've removed the prices so that newbs won't think you can do a SAS on the cheap. Things like the calipers I can forego buying new because the 76's are in good shape and I can rebuild them. Raw materials (flat iron and fluids) I excluded because I should already have them. Now all I have to do is wait till next week when I get back from Colorado and start ordering parts on my Holiday bonus!

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toss the stabalizers...I havent really found a good use for them.

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OH and did I miss them? I dont see front springs...

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Got the springs on there. Might have missed them because they are so small..
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- 4" 76 Superlift springs - JBG
Yeah I haven't installed the stabilizer yet, but I picked them up for like less then $20 when I got my swampers so I had thought about it.

Tim, how many inchs of lift do you think you have with your leafs?

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Right around 7 inches.

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I never got around to putting my stabilizer back on after my SAS, with bias 38's...
For a tie rod, it may save you some cash to use a stock 80's Blazer tie rod. It works with the TREs everyone uses (obviously), it's about 1/4" thick, and you can buy em by the ton at PicknPull for cheap. You could even cut and tap one end to use one as a drag link too.
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this thread is going to be the stuff
post lotsa pics for newbs with dreams in their eyes!
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post #8 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-23-2007, 01:55 AM Thread Starter
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I never got around to putting my stabilizer back on after my SAS, with bias 38's...
For a tie rod, it may save you some cash to use a stock 80's Blazer tie rod. It works with the TREs everyone uses (obviously), it's about 1/4" thick, and you can buy em by the ton at PicknPull for cheap. You could even cut and tap one end to use one as a drag link too.
I might not need the stabilizer with my 35 bias. I bet I will be selling the stabilizer soon if I don't need it.

Hmm I was about to post about not using the chby tie rod, but... They would be dirt cheap at pnp on 1/2 off days. Hmmm I do think the DOM or sleeved DOM would be stronger but if I fabbed it to have the chby as a fall back... Hmm that will come last as I need to measure under the truck once the axle is hung.

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I'm back from Colorado. No huge updates, but I figured I would post a pic of the axles to be. The axles are from a running 1976 F150 that I parted. It wasn't easy to part out some old Ford iron but she was destined to end up in the junk yard if I didn't.

Here are the axles as they sit now:


Hopefully this evening I'll be meeting up chbyboat to grab his old arms. After seeing shadofax's arms I really would love to run cage arms but those ($825!!!) will have to wait till later when funds allow.

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Im not sure if you need 7 degree C bushings if you run longer radius arms.The longer arms tilt the axle back.Try to see what other people have done with length versus bushing degree.Just a thought.
Does your current bronco have a single front brake line from inside the frame or does it have one on each side like my 94?


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Im not sure if you need 7 degree C bushings if you run longer radius arms.The longer arms tilt the axle back.Try to see what other people have done with length versus bushing degree.Just a thought.
Does your current bronco have a single front brake line from inside the frame or does it have one on each side like my 94?
Your right I'm not going to need 7 bushings now that I think about it. Those are for trucks using the stock arms. Must have just read it off JBG. So I need to figure out if 2 is enough, or if I'll need 4. Boss used cage arms which have some built in correction, so I can't go by his lift. Superlift seems to recommend 2 when using their 4" lift with dropped brackets with stock arms.

I think all of the TTB have seperate brake lines. I'm going to convert mine. I like the idea of having brake, ARB and a clear breather all coming up at the diff. Looks clean in my head.

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you know, a lot of the things you mention have been built years ago by different people than the ones you mention. you should look at older write ups and rigs as well as the latest and "greatest" stuff.

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I never got around to putting my stabilizer back on after my SAS, with bias 38's...
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I might not need the stabilizer with my 35 bias. I bet I will be selling the stabilizer soon if I don't need it.
Ya, they are hit and miss for sure. I have been debating putting one on with the 36" bias, but haven't yet. Buddy before me had a nasty DW with thes tires and 8 lug outers, and he solved it with a trac bar and a stabilizer. He had 6" leafs vs my 4" ones. Over the past year, every once in a while it feels like the front end wants to start shaking, but then it goes away. I will have to keep my eyes on it.

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the track bar solved it more than the stabalizer

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the track bar solved it more than the stabalizer
Absolutely. I gave him a hard time for doing two things to try and fix a problem, but then when he offered me the axles before he sold the truck, I suddenly didn't give a rats behind about HIS DW.

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I'm going to start ordering parts today. Today is the last day of 4wheelparts sale with free shipping so I'm jumping on that because some of their prices are lower then what I found already.

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I'm going to start ordering parts today. Today is the last day of 4wheelparts sale with free shipping so I'm jumping on that because some of their prices are lower then what I found already.
Justin also posted:
I'm hopping to have this all done by mid January. Time will tell.


all done ordering? Or all done doing????

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Quiet grandpa! I'm finishing the garage while I wait for parts. I don't even have a work bench built, but I'll start mudding that walls today and my parts should ship out today. Still shooting for mid Jan.

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The parts build up has begun to arrive, making this SAS dream come that much closer to fruition!

Bought all of this the last day of 4WPs sale.


New 4.10 ring and pinion for the 9" rear. Mmmm smells like a new life time warranty item for my truck!

Left is a master install kit for the Dana 44 which I'll install the ARB in. Right is the Ford 9" minaor install. The rear is in good shape and I'll be revisting it in the future too once I find an ARB on the cheap. Save a little green for now.

4" Super lift coils and C bushings.

Next stop is AutoZone to blow my next wad

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The AutoZone and Checker runs seem to be costing me more than ordering parts. Just dropped $200 on brakes yesterday. That included new hubs, rotors and calipers.
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