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post #81 of 104 (permalink) Old 11-04-2013, 05:51 PM Thread Starter
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I had a few new questions in a pm so I thought that I would answer them and post the answers on here for everyone.

1. What is your compressed front coil measurement. From where they mount in the upper buckets to the retainer on the axle.

A: About 17"

2. Is your upper buckets moved up the frame or are they flush with the bottom. (I believe there is a lip on them that would have to be cut off to move them up.) I am also not talking moving them forward.

A: I had to cut that lip just a little bit on the drivers side but the majority of it is still there and it is flush with the frame.


3. What is the height of the coil buckets.

A: from the ground to the very top of the buckets is about 38 1/2 inches.

4. Can you get me a measurement from the ground to the center of the front Wheel openings or any other point on the body that I can reference off mine.

A: Not exactly sure what you want here so I'm just going to give you some pics of what I think you want. that way I don't have to explain anything.



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hey dude how long did your track bar come out to be after
About 38"

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Thanks. That's exactly what I needed.

The only thing on the coil bucket I needed the length of the actual bucket not from the ground. Some of the coil buckets were found to be an inch or so different length.

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Here are some more pics after the swap. Enjoy






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Glad to hear your alright from the trac bar incident! Did you use loc-tite on any/all of the bolts when installing?

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SAS thread http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...d.php?t=227057
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Thanks! No I didn't use any loc-tite. I probably should of for some of them.

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Did those 4" coils give you about the same amount height as your old 6" TTB lift or did you change some thing in the rear?
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No it actually lowered the front end by about an inch which worked out perfectly. For some reason the 6" lift that I put on the truck had the rear end a little bit lower than the front. I called the company about it and they tried to tell me that that is how it is supposed to be. So when I did the SAS I was hopping that it would lower the front a little to level it out, and it did. Here is a pic of my truck before the SAS, you can see the the front end is just a little bit higher than the rear.

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I never touched the rear end during the SAS.

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Some of you probably already saw the trip photos I put up in another thread but I think it would be a good idea to put a link here so people could see some more pics and videos of our SAS. 81bronco44 and I both have about the same SAS so if you want to know how they perform then check it out.

http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...d.php?t=295033

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I got another question on PM today, I always like to post them on here in-case other people have the same question. The question was "Which F-250 front shock mounts did I use for my SAS?"

I used the ones from the 1985-1993 F-250. You can also use the 1994-1997 ones. The only difference is that it has 4 bolt holes when the one I used only has 2.

You could probably find these in a junk yard and save yourself some money. I'll also update my OP with the years.

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I really dig your setup. I about cried when watching g the video of your ttb breaking... Haha

Would it be possible to do the SAS in this fashion without a lift?

If so, and say I use everything from a 78/79, would I then simply order lift parts for the 78/79 truck?

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I really dig your setup. I about cried when watching g the video of your ttb breaking... Haha
Thanks! Yeah that video is hilarious now, wasn't at the time.

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Would it be possible to do the SAS in this fashion without a lift?
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If so, and say I use everything from a 78/79, would I then simply order lift parts for the 78/79 truck?

Thanks!
You will need to get 78/79 lifted springs up front and then what ever year your Bronco actually is for the leaf springs in the rear. Unless you want to do a shackle flip instead.

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Now that you've had the swap done for a while, what are your thoughts on the stock '79 radius arms/lift combo? Do you still feel they are sufficient?
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For what I wanted and what I do, yes. They do just fine for me. Now that my bronco is not my DD anymore I might think about extending them, but that's not for a while.

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not true brother..

there are tons of people on here with the sas and 86-96 ra mounts including myself. you do need a rabushing kit from a newer bronco to make it work
Is there an advantage to using the newer style bracket, or a disadvantage using the 78/79 bracket?

What rebushing kit would be needed?

The one thing I didn't get in my huge pile of parts was the brackets. So I've got to buy new ones anyways. Which way is better? I was originally planning on just getting some 78 drop brackets. Now I'm not sure.

Also, idle there any difference in the way the 78/79 brackets mount to the frame vs the 86-96? Would one lay on the (mine is an 89) newer frame better or worse?
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not true brother..

there are tons of people on here with the sas and 86-96 ra mounts including myself. you do need a rabushing kit from a newer bronco to make it work
Is there an advantage to using the newer style bracket, or a disadvantage using the 78/79 bracket?

What rebushing kit would be needed?

The one thing I didn't get in my huge pile of parts was the brackets. So I've got to buy new ones anyways. Which way is better? I was originally planning on just getting some 78 drop brackets. Now I'm not sure.

Also, idle there any difference in the way the 78/79 brackets mount to the frame vs the 86-96? Would one lay on the (mine is an 89) newer frame better or worse?
Dude this may be over your head...

You sure you wanna start a SAS?
If you do start your own build thread asking questions and we will do our best to answer them. This build has been finished for years

I'll answer some of your questions here tho so I don't completely come across mean

The 78 bronco style radius arm mounts installed perfectly for me with some measuring and drilling/bolting. My stock 94 radius arm mounts didn't work

Rebushing kit I used was from bronco graveyard for the 1978 bronco

80-96 brackets should just bolt up but like I said they wouldn't work for me. If U were going to buy a pair (and I did) I'd get 78-79 bronco style
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Dude this may be over your head...

You sure you wanna start a SAS?
If you do start your own build thread asking questions and we will do our best to answer them. This build has been finished for years
You're right IIVIIoonshiner, this is a question suited more for the SAS newbie forum. But I'm sure he is asking it here because he is trying to do a build like mine and thought that I would know the answer. And I really don't mind answering questions.

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I'll answer some of your questions here tho so I don't completely come across mean

The 78 bronco style radius arm mounts installed perfectly for me with some measuring and drilling/bolting. My stock 94 radius arm mounts didn't work

Rebushing kit I used was from bronco graveyard for the 1978 bronco

80-96 brackets should just bolt up but like I said they wouldn't work for me. If U were going to buy a pair (and I did) I'd get 78-79 bronco style
You're right again. I used the 78-79 mounts. I did have to drill new holes but they seemed to mount right up. I wish I would have known that there was a rebushing kit because I would have rather used the 88 ones. I think they fit better.

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Is there an advantage to using the newer style bracket, or a disadvantage using the 78/79 bracket?

What rebushing kit would be needed?

The one thing I didn't get in my huge pile of parts was the brackets. So I've got to buy new ones anyways. Which way is better? I was originally planning on just getting some 78 drop brackets. Now I'm not sure.

Also, idle there any difference in the way the 78/79 brackets mount to the frame vs the 86-96? Would one lay on the (mine is an 89) newer frame better or worse?
So to answer your question I would say yes. I think the better way to go would be to use the newer style mounts and get the rebushing kit. I have no idea what that kit is because I never used it. Either way you're going to have to drill new holes and move your mounts. Some people like the older ones because they drop down a little.
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I had some questions about my camber and caster after the SAS. I recently replaced all of the tie rod ends at took it in for a real alignment. Here are my numbers.

Does anyone know an easy way to make it any better? The guy at the shop said that with the big tires I won't even notice the camber and caster being off.


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