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Deadsquiggles' 351 build/swap and Bronco build thread

Operation GoFastBadAss is officially underway.
Finally found a 351 roller, cast number F4TE. The plan is to build it up and swap it into my Bronco.
I figure I'll start putting together a parts list. Please chime in if you see something wrong.
1994 Roller block, stock bottom end
GT40 heads
This intake: http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/...ormer-58.shtml
New distributor (open to suggestions)
Gonna try and find some long tube headers (open to suggestions)
Not sure about a cam yet, trying to find something with good power off idle.
5.8l ECM
New Ypipe
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Hope to get some pictures up and make some progress.

'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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Id do ARP studs in the bottom end and also the rod bolts. I would consider arp head studs but probably not needed with as mild as that setup sounds like it will be.


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Yeah I'm not looking for a bunch of power, just a little but more for off-roading and to beat the kid at work the a '95 5.8. What I've noticed is the seemingly low selection for hydraulic roller cams. The only cam I've found with a desirable RPM range for HRC is this Lunati cam: http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=1654&gid=254

'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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You will be limited by the cam selection if your staying with speed density also, just something to keep in mind, which from looking at that cam looks like you have been. You might find more looking for 302 HO cams, but a lot of those will be for more upper rpm power as they are geared toward mustangs.
Im running this one in my 351 http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/c...csid=1053&sb=2 it seems to work decent, though I think it would be better suited to your engine then mine (I need a more aggressive one) Its a little more aggressive then the one you linked and shows a power band from 1500-5500. I have found it fine off idle though too
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You know, I never even thought about 302HO cams. That might be a good one right there.

What parts do I need to mate the new 351 to my E4OD since there's a 302 in there right now? And for engine control, all I need is a new ECM and then the 302 harness just plugs in or would I need the 351 harness?

'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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I just remembered that Thin Blue Line was telling me I need a new 28oz.(?) Flexplate. And I just found out that the harness are the same regardless of 302 or 351.

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That sounds right, I am using a Skat on mine.


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Well I haven't been able to get ahold of the guy with the engine. I'm thinking of staying 302 for the availability.

'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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Just wondering for aesthetics, since it's the best look for an engine, is there an EFI throttle body that allows you to run a circle air cleaner? It'd be for a '93 Bronco with a 5.0.

'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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Are you talking about an air cleaner like the old carb style air cleaners. Or a conical ones like the K&N.

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Old carb style.

'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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So I figured I'd update this. Finally got a huge amount of work done. Rough Country 2.5" lift installed. Due to replacing all the worn out springs, I actually gained 3.5" in the rear and almost 5" up front. 4.56 Yukons front and rear, new Truetrac in the rear, Warn Premium hubs, all bushings replaced with Energy Supsension bushings, new Moog tie rods and ends, Moog upper and lower ball joints, Saginaw swap (which is dead silent and amazing) and a Redhead steering gear which is awesome too. And this is all in addition to the work that's been done in the last year and a half. Tomorrow, my 33x12.5r15 BFG AT KO2s get installed on my 15x10 Pro Comp Rock Crawlers. I'll post the obligatory pictures tomorrow. ALl that will be left is body work, interior, and the eventual engine build.

'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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Well after no progress due to life, and then blowing the transmission a year and half ago, and now a newborn, this build is at a relative standstill. So today I decided to some stuff that requires no money for now.

I decided to start tearing out the interior. I got rid of all the rear carpet, wheel well carpet, and I got the plastic panels discounted. They’re still sitting in the back of the truck though because my T50 socket broke of while removing a seal belt screw. So now I need a new one.

I did find out that at some point, by a PO, the “hatch” was cut in order to replace the fuel pump. So I’ll have to keep it in mind for later.

I also started inspecting for rust. There’s the obvious stuff I knew about on the exterior, but then I found it at the rear sill on the drivers side, rust on both wheel wells, as well as rusted through where the body steps up for the rear seat on the driver side(last picture, this part has me the most worried.)

I’m contemplating try my hand at body work, but after finding the interior issues so far, I’m not too sure. It’ll never be a show truck but I still want it done well.
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'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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How about some pictures of that lift we've been waiting three years for?

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Fair enough hahaha So I never got any pictures in between these but here’s a before and after. And the last picture is something similar to what I’m hoping to end up with.
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Got bored today so I decided my front bumper looks like crap and needs less chrome. Gotta get another spray can of Oxford White though. I ran dry just on the bumper. Must’ve used the can before at some point.
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'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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Looks like some serious material was removed from that bumper...

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Looks like some serious material was removed from that bumper...
Yeah it started with a trim to fit the 33ís after the 2.5Ē lift. And then it got a little rust and the body lines didnít line up so about a month or so ago, I aggressively cut some material off and reinstalled it. It doesnít look too bad installed. At this point, itís just a placeholder till I buy or hopefully build a front bumper.

'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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Anyone ever buy an EEC from Oreillys or the like? I was looking around and they have refurbished units that appear to actually be year specific and they start at about $100 up through $250 depending on the company that did the refurb. Iím intrigued cause if theyíre worth it, it was be a good source for an EEC for my MAF swap. PNP and the local junkyard have no vehicles in the inventory that would be correct.

'93 XLT; 5.0 V8; E4OD With Sonnax SureShift (hopefully to be 5.8 and ZF5); 2.5" RC lift; 33x12.5 BFG AT KO2s; 4.56s; Truetrac; Warn Premiums; Flowmaster Super 40 muffler; Sag swap; Redhead steering box

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I have bought the '93 Mustang ones from them (at least 10-12) in the past and never had an issue.

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