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It's a 35" so it definitely would be a better choice with the 37"s I run in the winter. I don't want to hang anything bigger back there. The 35 can do a pretty good job of destroying the tailgate over time. I'd like to remove it someday if I replace the gate; at that point I could weld up the quarter and paint the two panels, but that's a long ways away.
I was just curious if you had to use it like that with three 44's.

When I first met my wife my father-in-law owned an 80's Chevy shortbed 4x4 lifted super high on huge tires like that and I remember her telling me about a day when he got a flat on one of the rear tires and he slowly ended up looking at the sky as he was driving, because he didn't know it was rapidly going flat.

I agree a 35 is a bit much. That's what I have on my carrier. According to the Mickey Thompson website my wheel and tire combo is 77 lbs. I need to tighten up my latch/striker clearance to minimize how much the tire jiggles around and pulls on the tailgate. I really like the look of the factory carrier, but someday I'd like to remove it and incorporate a carrier into a custom bumper.

You've definitely got a very nice Bronco! That might be an understatement.
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The first gen spare tire carriers WILL NOT hold up to a trip to moab with a 10 ply 37" tire on it... speaking from experience lol.

The later models that the tire actually bolts too is significantly stronger.
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I was just curious if you had to use it like that with three 44's.

When I first met my wife my father-in-law owned an 80's Chevy shortbed 4x4 lifted super high on huge tires like that and I remember her telling me about a day when he got a flat on one of the rear tires and he slowly ended up looking at the sky as he was driving, because he didn't know it was rapidly going flat.

I agree a 35 is a bit much. That's what I have on my carrier. According to the Mickey Thompson website my wheel and tire combo is 77 lbs. I need to tighten up my latch/striker clearance to minimize how much the tire jiggles around and pulls on the tailgate. I really like the look of the factory carrier, but someday I'd like to remove it and incorporate a carrier into a custom bumper.

You've definitely got a very nice Bronco! That might be an understatement.
Funny thing about the 44's, as they loose air, they just get smaller in size, until they run out then they get ugly.

I had a spare 40" on the back of my '74 when I had these 44's on it and it destroyed it over time. That's why I stayed with the 35".( well that and the fact that I had bought a matching tire and wheel when I ran 35's.)
I have no bumper, so unless I went under the roll pan and up, it's not really an option, personally, I might just do away with it altogether and just call Triple A.

Also, thanks for the kind words, it's much appreciated. I'm gonna be 60 and I still can climb up in it, so I'll keep it for awhile.


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Consider the style of carrier on @Shadofax whom is being stabled by @wileec now.

It's a dual pivot, mounted on the center of the bumper and folds down, rather than out. Could be integrated easier than a swing out with your roll pan.



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Consider the style of carrier on @Shadow fax whom is being stabled by @wileec now.

It's a dual pivot, mounted on the center of the bumper and folds down, rather than up. Could be integrated easier than a swing out with your roll pan.
I started into the FSB invasion thread linking back through @wileec posts and tried to find some pics no luck. I must say, pretty cool thread and can't believe i missed it, definitely want to catch up on it. Anyways, if you have some pics, I'm interested.
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I can do ya one better... a build thread!

https://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum...e-carrier.html

Which invasion thread did you see? Theres the main planning type one and then a few trip reports in the same named section.
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I can do ya one better... a build thread!

https://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum...e-carrier.html

Which invasion thread did you see? Theres the main planning type one and then a few trip reports in the same named section.
Thanks Bud, you are the man!

This one: FSB Invasion 2019


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Well, I paid up all my bills from the front end project and ordered these for the Currie 9" rear: Yukon Gear 5:43 Ring And Pinion Gear as well as a shim kit. Hope to get the back end torn apart next week and that'll probably do it for the time being.

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More presents came in the mail today:



Once the shim kit comes in, I'll get 'em installed and @BikerPepe` will be one day closer to the trade....



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Got home and this was on my desk, wasn't supposed to be here until next Tuesday. ....hhhmmmm, guess I'll start pulling it apart tomorrow.


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....hhhmmmm, guess I'll start pulling it apart tomorrow.
Better get on 'er and get it done right too!

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Better get on 'er and get it done right too!

@BikerPepe` is gettin' anxious
I'll try and document as many steps as my patience allow me to at my miserable old age( according to the Mrs.; P.S. My Mrs., not yours). Hopefully it will help someone who wants to attempt a 9", but I'm guessing, there aren't many people who feel the nine is an upgrade anymore. (HELL yeah, it is)

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Okay, first thing, drain the fluid, having a drain plug makes this easy...



Then I got the wheels off and pulled the drums. I removed all the brake components because I'm going to do the brakes while I'm in here.

Now rotate the axle until the hole is over one of the reatiner nuts;





..and remove the 4 retaining nuts with a 9/16's deep socket:



Now you can buy or rent a puller to remove the axles, but if you flip the brake drum over and install three lug nuts onto the studs for a couple or three turns so they leave thread exposed....



you can use the drum as slide hammer.




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Pull the axle and check the bearing, seal and the spline end. I have actually twisted these splines on stock axles.
These 35 spline axles look good



Once the axles are out, you can start to remove the center section.

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..and then remove the third member. You may have to use a couple of screwdrivers to pry it off the studs and Voila!



Everything looks nice and clean inside the housing, always a good sign


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I moved it over to the bench and marked/stamped my caps and housing so they don't get mixed up





Removed the adjuster locks



and then the cap bolts


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Pull the caps and adjusters and races and keep them separate so you don't mix up the races



and then remove the carrier


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Stand it up on end and remove the ring gear bolts. I like to leave a couple in fairly loose so I can remove the ring gear without it slamming onto the bench



and then give it a few taps all the way around until the bolts are flush with the carrier and then remove the bolts



...and the gear will come off.



In the old days you would have had to put a threaded rod with fender washers through the center of the Detroit Locker to hold it together before you took the ring gear off. The bolts from the gear actually held the two pieces together. Today they are bolted together making life much easier.


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Make sure the face is clean before you install the new ring gear. If there are any burs on the face, hit them with a file, your surface needs to be flat and smooth.



Slide the new ring gear on evenly and use the old bolts to pull it on. Be sure to go in a cross pattern and go a little at a time so you pull it on evenly



Once it's completely on, remove the old bolts...



..and apply loctite to the new bolts and install them





Torque them to 85 ft. lbs

You can really see how thick the 5:43 ring gear is compared to the 4:11's

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