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Long Tube Header install(heddman)

After searching for an hour or so, and not finding jack on long tube header installment, I figured I would go ahead and tell everyone how I did it.

THIS WAS INSTALLED ON MY 88 F150 302, 4 INCH SUSPENSION LIFT.

First off, make sure you give yourself enough time to install them. I am a fulltime sudent and have been working 10 hour shifts this week leaving me with intallment on friday and exhaust done on saturday.

My trucks 302 only has about 40,000 miles on it, and I replaced the exhaust gasket previously on the drivers side so the bolts werent hard this time. The passanger side was a pain. The last bolt in the back holds on the smog pump tube. Luckily Ford made cheap brackets that connects to that bolt, along with 20 other things that connect to those bolts. I guess there isnt any room to connect this anywhere else That mount ended up twisting with the bolt making it a one hour job to get that damn bolt off. Just get pissed off and you'll find a way for it to come off.

Cut the stock exhaust off. I have true duals already and still had the stock Y pipe right up to the stock resonator. I cut the two pipes after the o2 sensor and the H pipe in half. They will come out with little effort.

I bought my Heddman headers from a member on here, which he included Mrgasket exhaust and flange gaskets and all the bolts. From what Mike2 said, and a lot of other posts about the flange hitting the driveshaft, I went ahead and bent the DRIVERS side to the passanger side 1". I went ahead and painted them with High temp silione spray, which also seals exhaust wraps. It cures at 400 degrees so I thought I might as well try it out.


The Drivers Side

The first time I slid the headers up, I thought it was F'ed when i seen the oil dipstick was in the way. What do you know, haynes manual has nothing about this. So i took the header off. Just twist the tube and it will come right out. It just slides inside the block. When you go to install it again, put a ring of high temp RTV around the stop ring to seal it.
Remember this is on an 88 f150 302.

loosen the clip on the feul filter so you can move it away. I just took the clip off. I dont see what everyone is whining about. As long as you dont have turrets and can think 3 seconds ahead, the headers was like a 5th grade puzzle. From under the truck, slide the block flange up first and bring it up. The fuel filter was the hardest part for the header to get around. Again, its a $5 part, just get pissed off and move it away. I took one of the stock studs and bolted it on so I could still pull it out enough to see the gasket.
Once everything was bolted up, I looked under and seen there was PLENTY of clearance for the driveshaft. Actually I wish it was closer, because its very close to the tranny. I dont think these were bent before as it still had the orginal paint on them, and yes, there were only bent one inch.





THE PASSANGER SIDE
This side is the same, go from under. It was actually easier then the driver side. Then again, I said the hell with it and gave it a good hit and it popped right up. I had trouble with the last bolt. It look me another hour get get that in because theres NO space for a wrench, let alone a crows foot. Dont do what I did and go from the front to back. Do the back ones first, then when you go to get them tight, and tourqed, do the back, front, back middle, front middle. My headers just BARELY touch the starter. I turned the worklight off and hit the header sideways and seen light when I did, so I wasnt concerned too much about that. I think i will be able to get the starter out without taking the header off. I will just have to bring it around the feul lines. I had the exhaust guy to make it so I would be able to clear the other pipe it I did have to take the header off. Also, I had him work around the tranny pan to I can get, and take that off.






Exhaust guy did a good job. I am satisfied with his work, being the tight space and peicing it together





I now have Heddman headers, True duals, X pipe and two dynomax ultral flo wleded mufflers. Tailpipes kicked out at 90 degrees. It got a little louder, but nothing beyond belief. Its a really good sound. For people who actually know a thing or two about exhaust and what the sounds are, its a pretty good sound. High flow, soft cackles, not hi backpressured cackles.

Post up some questions, I am sure I missed something. Going off little hours of sleepy

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What are you going to do for a heat shield for the starter? or did I miss that part?
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Exhaust wrap or something similar.
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this looks like total crap! complete waist of headers with those sharp crimp bends
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that bend is defintly not good. Imo i would have gone with shorties if you wanted to keep the rest of the exhaust... otherwise the drivers -side header exhaust has to be redone...

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yea the bends are a bit tight... your starter is gonan fry too... heat shield or not...
im still contemplating my exhaust in the future...ive got duals now(not true) but im going to a 393w... my exhaust is gonna pop out the rocker panel infront of the rear pass tire... i was thinking about trying to incorporate a dual exhaust just so i can hear it on the d-side... its tuff to get all of it packed into a small space w/out taking up room... also trying to get an x pipe in there is no fun...

im not sure if i will be able to fit it though... id liek to hear it on the d-side too... but i wanna keep the exhaust away from the rear axle... im gonna mock it into the rolling frame when its ready...we shall see... a ncie true dual system would sound good behidn the 393w... but im sure the single will be nice too... just requires a slightly fat pipe to let that 393 breath

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i just installed some long tube headers on my truck as well but i have a 90 bronco i did not have a problem with the fuel filter at all since it was mid way back.. i did however have to have to pull the front axle drop it down and slide the drivers side up into place.. the passenger side just slide right up in with out any fuss..
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Go to summit and buy a 16$ starter wrap and you are ready to go. I have ran headers before on other cars and trucks for a long time with out anything on the starter and did not hurt anything but I put one on the bronco anyway.
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I just put hedman headers on mine as well and I had to swing the driver side out to the frame and around the cross-member. If I didn't do this I would have had to go under and I did not want to do that.
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i'm about to do mine as well... no other fitment issues on the hedmans??

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Nope, That was the only problem I had was the driver side cross member. I ran it almost to the out side of the frame and back in that away my Nerf bars would cover it up mostly. I will take pics Monday if I get time. It's at my Dads and I will be going to get it tomorrow I hope. But I did not go any y pipe just straight duals out to the back.
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I also use headmans on my ride. I had no fitment issues and since I run a 3" Y pipe, I had to move my crossmember back 6". I is loud but I like it.

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i just bought flowtech shorties, and i heard some people have problems with the bolts snaping when your losining them. i was gunna spray the bolts with bp blaster will this keep that from happening?
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i just bought flowtech shorties, and i heard some people have problems with the bolts snaping when your losining them. i was gunna spray the bolts with bp blaster will this keep that from happening?

nothing is for sure it all depends on how old the bolts are how rusted they could be.. if there was loctite on it.. it will not hurt it to use some form of deep pen oil suck as pb blaster.. hit it a few times a day for a couple of days and then give a go..
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yea thats what some of my friends told me to do, but i thought i would check with the real pros first.
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