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My 351w engine specs.

I have been PMed by several people of late about the specs of my engine. Instead of awnsering all 20PM’s I will make one thread and give people the link if I am asked again.

The Engine was purchased from a Junk Yard for $700.00
It is a 351w from a 92 F-250.
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/show...hlight=GACKNAR
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/show...hlight=PENZOIL

Here are the short block specs.

351w, bored 30 over
Crank polished
factory connecting rods
Speed-Pro power forged pistons (844-L2446F30)
Performance speacialtys Harmonic Balancer.
The block has been decked (dont remember how much)
And It's been balanced.
It is suposed to deliver 9.5 to 1 compresion with a 64cc head.

Total short block cost $1,500.00

Pistons can be looked up here http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...atalogId=10002


Long block part specs.

GT-40 ”X” heads (M-6049-X303) $1,100 my cost
Crane Cams “PowerMax” cam (cam + lifter #443902) $169.95
(443901 for cam only)
Crane Cams double roller timing chain set (44993-1) $69.88
Crane Cams valve springs (99833-16) $63.88
Ford Racing roller rockers (M-6564-B351) $299.95
Ford Racing rocker arm shim kit (M-6529-A302) $8.99
Ford Racing push rods (M-6565-M332) $44.88
Melling standard pressure/standard volume oil pump (M83) $23.95
ARP oil pump drive shaft (154-7901) $16.88
ARP head bolts (154-3603) $53.99

Total long block cost $1,852.30

The previouse part numbers can be looked up here http://www.summitracing.com/


Finishing parts (so far)

Edelbrock performer 351w lower intake. (3834) $299.95
ARP Intake bolts (154-2001) $19.88
BBK 351w truck headers (35110) $369.88
Stage 8 locking header bolts (8913A) $51.95
Performance speacialtys Harmonic Balancer. (price included in short block)
351w to AOD flex plate. (Motermite # 04352) $41.88 @ Advance Autoparts
Ford Racing Tall Valve Covers (FMS-M-6582-E302P) $94.88
Accel 300+ Ferro-Spiral Race Wire Sets $79.69 (acc-7040)
BBK 70mm Throttle Bodie $179.88 (BBK-1501)
BBK 70mm EGR Plate $59.88 (BBK-1502)
Edelbrock Performer 5.0 EFI upper Intake Manifold $249.88 (EDL-3822)
Trick Flow EFI Heat Spacer Kit $61.95 (TFS-51520014)
TransGo Performance Shift Kits $119.39 (TRG-AOD)

Total finishing parts so far $1,629.24



Total build cost so far $5,681.43



Here are links to the threads with the build pics, with questions and awnsers.

351-1
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39919

351-2
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43305

351-3
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43851

351-4
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43910

351-5
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44365

351-6
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44411

351-7
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54709

351-8
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57203

351-9
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65733

351-10
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67484

351-11
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67586

351-12
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/show...527#post908527

351-13
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/show...d=1#post958764

351-14
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/show...d=1#post973974

351-15
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76361

351-16
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79175

351-17
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79846

Hp/Torqe estimations by Desktop Dyno.





A sound clip of the engine running.


Any further questions can be posted here I guess.

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Whats the reason for the roller timing chain? just curious...

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On what?
Exactly Great job Gack



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Whats the reason for the roller timing chain? just curious...
Strength acuracy and reduced friction.

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Exactly Great job Gack
You scared me

Dont do that


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Lookin good. Sounds like about the same amount I spent on mine. Our engines are very similar. You're gonna love it.

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sounds good just in time too. go ahead and send it to me i need a new engine hahaha



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Whens it going in???

You started before me, and im catching up, Mines at the machine shop now

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Scanned and added the print outs from Desktop-Dyno.

Desktop-Dyno is usually a little optimistic, so these numbers may be higher than what I will actually get. We wont know until I put it on a dyno.

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Gacknar: Have you done anything to the AOD to hold up? I am thinking of going AOD instead of the E40d since I am very familiar with the AOD and also I can convert to a Mass Air system from a mustang. Specifically a A9L computer for the 351w.
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You know no one PM'd you about it, you just wanted to show off your engine
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You know no one PM'd you about it, you just wanted to show off your engine
...i would do the same thing

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I give the stock AOD 20 mins behind that engine.
Good work, Gack!

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Gacknar: Have you done anything to the AOD to hold up? I am thinking of going AOD instead of the E40d since I am very familiar with the AOD and also I can convert to a Mass Air system from a mustang. Specifically a A9L computer for the 351w.
I have not done anything to the AOD yet. But I plan to before the Bronco hits the streets.

Here are my plans.


B&M Super cooler.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Transgo shift kit.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Remote Trany filter.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Baumann AOD Pressure Regulator Boost Valve Kit

http://www.becontrols.com/products/aodcat.htm

I am still reserching on replacing the servos depending on wich ones I find in the tranny.

Hopefully these mods will help my AOD last for several years.

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Actualy they really did

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I give the stock AOD 20 mins behind that engine.
Good work, Gack!
The AOD as it is now will only be used to do a few light test runs. After the engine is in and operating properly the AOD will get it's upgrades.

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Regardless if the tranny is a C6, or AOD, a new engine, especially a very built one will take its toll on the clutch packs in a tranny that has miles on it. Gack, you should consider going ahead and have the tranny upgraded with alto red clutch packs and a 300m center shaft. Maybe even a wide ration gear set. The other option would be the 4R70W and Baumann controller. Hell, you already have your left nut in this project, may as well through in the right nut too.

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I give the stock AOD 20 mins behind that engine.
Good work, Gack!
Thats about how long a used C6 with high miles would last too. Been there, done that.

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Gack, you should consider going ahead and have the tranny upgraded with alto red clutch packs and a 300m center shaft. Maybe even a wide ration gear set.
There is no one around here I trust to go through the tranny. If it fails I'll order a custome built performance tranny online. (Some one posted a link to a good one last week)

My tranny guy closed up shop a few years ago. There is no one else in the ATL Metro area that could rebuild a factory AOD to save there lives, right alone build a perfomance one.

Who knows, if it fails I might try my hand at rebuilding it just as an experiment.

But more than likely i'll just order one.

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