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04-26-2015 03:47 PM
turpit Just throwing this in here, as I haven’t seen anybody list this stuff on FSB yet

I dont know how long they’ve been available to the public, but it seems that the mil-contract versions of the seat back molle panels have made it to DRMO and out to the surplus retailers, so you can now find these on ebay for under $20....just search for "molle vehicle panel"

Obviously they wont fit as well as the nice custom units like AFBronco235's, but for under $20 they are an inexpensive alternative to the pricier custom units...at least for us cheap folk

They are 14'x22' (ish)



There are a few companies making molle panels for safe doors. Pricey, but you can get a custom sized molle panel from these folks if for example, you wanted to cover the entire backe seat.

MOLLE Gun Safe Door Panel Organizer



And finally, some clever person stamped out some oversized PAP (OK, ok, they didnt stamp it, from what I read, they cut it with a waterjet but the end result is the same) with slots big enough for molle gear. So far it seems to be primarily geared towards anyone but the FSB crowd (surprise, surprise) but Im sure if a clever FSBer wanted to go this route they could easily adapt it for our BKOs. Pricey, but a rigid idea that allows the flexability of molle gear.

Also, some of these Ive seen didnt look like they would be too difficult to replicate by welding some 7/8 strips to some 3/8 square stock, but tedious work....still, a very customizable storage solution for a die hard DIYer





I think the overhead panel was a paricularly neat idea...someone also makes these in an all fabric panel. Id be on it if someone made a bolt in for the FSB.




This one is for a charger trunk:

05-21-2014 03:27 AM
AFBronco235
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Originally Posted by 96UAV View Post
I'm digging those seat covers! They're almost 300 for my 96. I'm interested to see how they hold up. I've heard mixed reviews about the smittybuilt ones for jeeps. I'm curious to know if they make your butt sweat or get uncomfortably warm...those were some of the complaints on the smittybuilts because of the cordura materials. Keep us posted on how they work out!
They've held up well so far. I've got about 30 lbs. of gear on each one right now. I do recommend you supply your own pouches though. The ones that come with it are pretty limited.

The sweating is a problem on a hot day, since the material doesn't breath, but its a minor one for a guy who grew up on a tractor seat. Its no worse than vinyl or leather seats though. It is tougher too. Won't hold a stain and cleans up easy. The real upside these have over smittybilt is that these actually cover the whole seat and not just the front and back. And since each cover is custom made to fit over the existing seat fabric, they're pretty snug and won't go slipping everywhere. This does make installing them a little tough, but worth it in the end.

How is it the 96 covers are $300?
05-20-2014 07:56 PM
96UAV
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Originally Posted by AFBronco235 View Post
Just up late and surfing the site and realized my new seat covers would be perfect for camping/expo's. They're the tactical covers custom made by Coverking.com. I paid $200 (they were on sale I should point out) and got two complete seat covers made of ballistic nylon with molle webbing on the back, along with 6 pouches. I've also added a few more pouches and first aid kit from the local Army Surplus. Now I can keep most of my gear in easy reach without having to open up the tailgate or window. While I keep my main tools in a separate tool bag, I keep some quick emergency tools (screwdriver, wrenches, pliers, etc...), winching supplies, rope, gerber multitool, shovel, water bottle, military grade duck tape, aluminum speed tape, emergency knife, hammer, magnesium rod (fire starter), cotton balls (see fire starter), super glue, roll of steel wire, code reader, and a few other odds and ends stored on the backs of my seats. And all I need to do to access it all is tilt the appropriate seat forward. The only down side is the tools add so much weight, the seats have to be moved forward manually, but I can live with that.



I'm digging those seat covers! They're almost 300 for my 96. I'm interested to see how they hold up. I've heard mixed reviews about the smittybuilt ones for jeeps. I'm curious to know if they make your butt sweat or get uncomfortably warm...those were some of the complaints on the smittybuilts because of the cordura materials. Keep us posted on how they work out!
03-16-2014 04:41 AM
AFBronco235 Just up late and surfing the site and realized my new seat covers would be perfect for camping/expo's. They're the tactical covers custom made by Coverking.com. I paid $200 (they were on sale I should point out) and got two complete seat covers made of ballistic nylon with molle webbing on the back, along with 6 pouches. I've also added a few more pouches and first aid kit from the local Army Surplus. Now I can keep most of my gear in easy reach without having to open up the tailgate or window. While I keep my main tools in a separate tool bag, I keep some quick emergency tools (screwdriver, wrenches, pliers, etc...), winching supplies, rope, gerber multitool, shovel, water bottle, military grade duck tape, aluminum speed tape, emergency knife, hammer, magnesium rod (fire starter), cotton balls (see fire starter), super glue, roll of steel wire, code reader, and a few other odds and ends stored on the backs of my seats. And all I need to do to access it all is tilt the appropriate seat forward. The only down side is the tools add so much weight, the seats have to be moved forward manually, but I can live with that.



02-17-2014 09:02 PM
huggyb1972 I figured you didn't use the winch spare carrier. Just didn't see the spare tire and got to wonderin.
02-17-2014 08:52 PM
runnin broke
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Originally Posted by huggyb1972 View Post
That's a fresh idea with the rear carrier and winch. Where does your spare go?
I removed my rear seat and have the spare mounted inside using the "salt life" upgrade when doing day trips and local off-roading. I throw it on the top rack when I need more room inside for long trips.

I never use the winch when it's mounted on the spare tire carrier, it's just there for easy aces on the trail. I have 20' wire with jumper cable connects on one end so anybody on the trail with a receiver hitch can use it.
02-17-2014 07:14 AM
huggyb1972 That's a fresh idea with the rear carrier and winch. Where does your spare go?
02-16-2014 11:08 PM
runnin broke I recently made a new rear bumper after bending the stock one once again. I made it out of some scrap steel I had and decided to remount my stock spare tire carrier and turn it into a licence plate mount with led light, hi-lift mount, and a receiver hitch mount to hold a rack for extra gas and water,or what ever accessory I need.






And I also use a cargo topper for extended trips to free up inside cargo area.
08-13-2013 03:48 PM
buffaloroams Thought I would add this one here for a Bumper and Cargo Basket set up by watfab.


watfab's bumper with sliders and cargo rack
08-12-2013 09:23 AM
Habitual Saw this and thought of this thread. It is a shower and bathroom kit. It is WAY over priced so i wouldn't buy it but you could make one.

http://www.synergymfg.com/Synergy-Su...t-p-30485.html
05-15-2013 09:20 PM
JohnMcD348 Thanks Steve. I'll have to look it up and read up on it. Actually sounds like an interesting Analysis.
05-14-2013 11:38 AM
Steve83 I wasn't driving at anything - just curious how it attached. Mine uses the stock tabs, and 2 more stock frame holes.



05-14-2013 02:49 AM
buffaloroams
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Almost every forklift I've seen is rear-steer ; Broncos have front steering. Departure only applies to the REAR bumper , and even if the bumper & shackles didn't, I'm pretty sure that receiver has reduced the approach angle from where it would be on a stock front bumper.

I've been backing trailers since before I was street-legal, so I've never considered a front receiver necessary. But on my new bumper, I have 2, just because they'll make everything else easier: recovery points, front hitch (just in case), snow plow (again: IF), tow bar, or almost anything I ever come up with. I don't plan to mount lights on it, but there are several spots, and it also has a touch of factory styling. Another major consideration for me is that there be NO modifications to the truck to fit the bumper, but it still has to be attached strong enough for impacts without affecting the crumple zones/SRS. How does yours attach, buff? Like the previous bumper, my new one also has storage (why don't more bumpers have that???), and the grille guard will fold down (both for access to the truck, and for hauling). But this time, I have a grille ornament that's actually strong enough to literally stamp FORD on someone's ass.

Even though this one will probably be slightly heavier, there's still no dead weight in it, so I can accept whatever it does to the fuel economy , knowing that I can knock down trees, crack rocks, & push dirt, bounce Priuses, and skew compasses. Its CG is below the truck's CG, so it's actually helping the stability.

BTW John
That "line" is called "finite-element analysis". Ford was the first automaker to use it on a production vehicle!


Knew you, of all people would catch any misstatements I made.

Yeah, I suppose I should have said approach angle, or I should have just lied and said I go everywhere in reverse.

As for the forklift comment, you are correct, they steer like a boat.
I was just trying to think of a way to explain the more articulated steering of the front mount receiver. It wasn't the major factor in wanting the receiver added but I wanted to try to illustrate all the advantages in case that may be something useful for someone else to consider.

As for your idea of having storage bins built into your bumper I love that idea.
If I had the welding equipment and the talent I would have done the same but since I was having to pay someone else to do my fab work I can only get so much. I will have to suggest the storage idea to John though. He is always looking at ways to improve his designs. I also like how you added touches of factory to your bumper build, definitely got cool points for that.

Weight wasn't a big consideration honestly, with all the features it's just flat out going to be heavy, I just didn't want to add any weight that didn't serve some purpose.

It uses the same mounting points as the stock bumper, I'm not sure what you were driving at Steve?

I do plan to add some LED light bars, two inset on the angled edges of the left and right end sections of the bumper and a 18-24" ? Bar in front of the winch or over it pointed straight forward. Figure this will give me a wide light array to light up the area in front of and just off side the truck.

I also plan to get one of those license plate holder/steps as a cover for the fair lead. I like having something I can stand on to reach into the engine bay when necessary. Although for me it's just to fool people into thinking I might actually know what I am looking at.
05-14-2013 12:53 AM
Steve83
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Originally Posted by buffaloroams View Post
...front steering like a forklift...
Almost every forklift I've seen is rear-steer ; Broncos have front steering.
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Originally Posted by buffaloroams View Post
...equal or better departure angle over the stock bumper.
Departure only applies to the REAR bumper , and even if the bumper & shackles didn't, I'm pretty sure that receiver has reduced the approach angle from where it would be on a stock front bumper.

I've been backing trailers since before I was street-legal, so I've never considered a front receiver necessary. But on my new bumper, I have 2, just because they'll make everything else easier: recovery points, front hitch (just in case), snow plow (again: IF), tow bar, or almost anything I ever come up with. I don't plan to mount lights on it, but there are several spots, and it also has a touch of factory styling. Another major consideration for me is that there be NO modifications to the truck to fit the bumper, but it still has to be attached strong enough for impacts without affecting the crumple zones/SRS. How does yours attach, buff? Like the previous bumper, my new one also has storage (why don't more bumpers have that???), and the grille guard will fold down (both for access to the truck, and for hauling). But this time, I have a grille ornament that's actually strong enough to literally stamp FORD on someone's ass.

Even though this one will probably be slightly heavier, there's still no dead weight in it, so I can accept whatever it does to the fuel economy , knowing that I can knock down trees, crack rocks, & push dirt, bounce Priuses, and skew compasses. Its CG is below the truck's CG, so it's actually helping the stability.

BTW John
That "line" is called "finite-element analysis". Ford was the first automaker to use it on a production vehicle!



05-13-2013 09:27 PM
JohnMcD348 Well That's good. When I think of rigging and modding a vehicle for Expo, I consider weight to be important. Better fuel economy and less to have to get through potentially impassable areas. But, then there is a line between heavy and sturdy and reliable. I just don't know where that is yet.
05-12-2013 10:07 PM
buffaloroams
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Originally Posted by JohnMcD348 View Post
Very nice. Thanks

What's the total weight of that bumper as it sits now?

Of course you would ask that question!

I am not sure as I forgot to weigh it when I had it off to paint.

I am guessing it to weigh 3-4 times what my stock bumper weighed.
Probably between 70-90lbs??

One man can lift it and carry it around but it took two of us to wrangle it in place to mount it.

Not sure if John has the weight on it or not, I am sure he has the weight of similar ones if he doesn't have mine.

It was not heavy enough though to cause any drop on my front end, measurably anyway.
05-12-2013 09:03 PM
JohnMcD348 Very nice. Thanks

What's the total weight of that bumper as it sits now?
05-12-2013 08:51 PM
buffaloroams
Expeditionary Bumpers

Thought I would add this to talk a little about bumpers and what went into deciding on the bumper John (triplesix) fabbed for me.

After looking at quite a few bumpers and trying to decide what I liked or didn't like I decided that I wanted these things;

1. I wanted a stout bumper that would be able to push things out of the way when required.

2. It needed to be as light weight as possible given all the things I wanted it to have.

3. I wanted to keep an equal or better departure angle over the stock bumper.

4. It had to be able to accommodate at least a 12K Winch.

5. I also wanted strong anchor/recovery points for pulling, snatching, towing, etc.

6. I live in a heavily wooded and underbrush area so I also thought it would
be good to have some stout brush bars for keeping limbs and other objects
from cracking the light housings and spearing the radiator.

7.I also thought it would be beneficial to have a front receiver for situations
where I could add any receiver mounted accessories to the front and also
use it to be able to move trailers and such with the articulation of front steering like a forklift.


These were all things that I considered based on where I live and what I wanted and I am sure as time goes by that I will discover other options I would have liked or find that some of the options I added were not very useful after all. But this was the criteria I gave to John and I have to say I was truly impressed with the bumper he designed and fabbed based on the criteria I gave him. A little shout out and props to John for making what I think was a pretty badass bumper.

I am still in the thinking and planning stages for my rear bumper so any thoughts you all may have on that would be greatly appreciated.

In addition I welcome any feedback on my front bumper as well.
Things I could have or should have done or things you think were unnecessary or I should have done differently.

Hopefully this will give others who are yet to decide on Bumpers some options they have to consider.





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05-12-2013 07:50 PM
JohnMcD348 Well, that's another way of putting it I guess. I've read a few things on here where people wonder about how large of a tire/wheel they could put on it and other discussions on how much weight it would or wouldn't hold. It invariable comes down to those who say you can't put more than the aluminum 235 on it and others who swear they can hand their Bronco from a tree by it......
05-12-2013 01:47 AM
Steve83
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Originally Posted by JohnMcD348 View Post
...install the carrier onto the spare tire rack and still carry the spare.
That's like putting an engine hoist on the antenna.



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