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On the top of my 5 speed the seal/bushing/thing where the shift lever goes into the transmission is leaking. I pulled it apart and the whole thing is a mess. So seeing how it is a tiny little part I went over to the local dealer to get a new one. Well it turns out that the seal and bushing and parts I would need are about $100. That is way more than I want to spend, especially for what I would be getting.

Does anyone have a busted Mazda tranny around they could sell me the part from? Has anyone else made their own bushing seal solution? I had an extra tie rod boot and jammed that on the shift lever as a short term seal but I would like something a little better.

Suggestions are welcome!

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I don't worry about it. None of the used ones you're going to find are going to be worth using, either.

The seal goes bad because the shifter ball starts wearing the case and tears the seal. That's why Ford won't just sell you a seal -- it wouldn't fix the problem for more than a short while.

It doesn't lose as much fluid as you'd think, tho... at least, mine never has. It's always wet up there, but I've gone years between fluid changes and never been low.

The real problem area there are the three rubber plugs at the ends of the shift rails (top cover, rear edge). Those will leak a TON of fluid... enough to burn up the case if you aren't careful.
 

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I have replaced those seals (they were actually good in my case) with some metal frost plugs following instructions I found here.

If you say it isn't that bad then I will try not to worry, just don't like the idea of that seal leaking at all.

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Best advice I can give is just to check it once in a while. It'll give you some peace of mind until you're sure how much it's leaking.
 

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On the top of my 5 speed the seal/bushing/thing where the shift lever goes into the transmission is leaking. I pulled it apart and the whole thing is a mess. So seeing how it is a tiny little part I went over to the local dealer to get a new one. Well it turns out that the seal and bushing and parts I would need are about $100. That is way more than I want to spend, especially for what I would be getting.

Does anyone have a busted Mazda tranny around they could sell me the part from? Has anyone else made their own bushing seal solution? I had an extra tie rod boot and jammed that on the shift lever as a short term seal but I would like something a little better.

Suggestions are welcome!

Thanks,
Tim
Hi,

It looks like I am in the same boat, funny though, i just had major overhaul on the engine and exhaust including the clutch. Used to have a major oil leak so when I replaced the oil pan and valve cover gaskets I thought I was golden...:rockon To my surprize now she drips ATF, like you described, from the top down.. at first it did not make sense until I read your post....

So, does this job require you to pull the transmission or can you do it from the top? What did you end up doing Tim? Did you ever fix this and anyone have an idea what it costs to have it fixed?

Thanks
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So, does this job require you to pull the transmission or can
you do it from the top?
What did you end up doing Tim?
Did you ever fix this{?}
I bet it ain't that big of a deal. :)

"it's easy when you know how"
-cowboy buddy that's accomplished much!

This could be a really cool-old-thread if the OP (or someone else)
would answer EZ-money's questions here. ;)

Couple pictures to make it look EZ for you to do yourself, EZ... ;)
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/hoist7m.jpg
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/hoist9m.jpg

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Never had a Mazda transmission in mine, checked out the ratios
and decided I'd have-to change it for a wide-ratio ZF anyway, so
got a cheap and easy-to-get automatic Bronco. Got a T18 in my
'75 F150 (bought new) and didn't want to change to a "car like"
shift pattern. ;)

ZF's are easy to get from F250's.

Alvin in AZ
 

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Happy St Patricks Day to all... :beer

Thanks everyone for that info...:rockon before I decide how far I need to go I first need to find out which trans I have... IMS there is a tag on the drivers side of the trans were the fill and drain plugs are... is there and easy way to tell which trans I have??
 

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first need to find out which trans I have...
IMS there is a tag on the drivers side of the trans were the fill and
drain plugs are... is there and easy way to tell which trans I have??
Coool... a stupid question! LOL :)
I like those, I can answer those. ;)

Here's an M5OD-HD (ZF) tag, notice how it's "stamped"...
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/BroncoZFtag.jpg

I suggest just using a rag to wipe the M5OD-R2 (Mazda) tag off.

An E4OD tag is a decal on a metal plate and will wipe off with just
a rag sometimes, let alone with carburetor or contact cleaner! :(

BTDT :/ Saved most of it but still, it sucked.

One of Ford's cheaper ideas? ;)

Big sheets of cardboard from Costco is what I like the best for
ground cover.

Alvin in AZ
 

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Coool... a stupid question! LOL :)
I like those, I can answer those. ;)

Here's an M5OD-HD (ZF) tag, notice how it's "stamped"...
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/BroncoZFtag.jpg

I suggest just using a rag to wipe the M5OD-R2 (Mazda) tag off.

An E4OD tag is a decal on a metal plate and will wipe off with just
a rag sometimes, let alone with carburetor or contact cleaner! :(

BTDT :/ Saved most of it but still, it sucked.

One of Ford's cheaper ideas? ;)

Big sheets of cardboard from Costco is what I like the best for
ground cover.

Alvin in AZ
Happy to oblige with the easy question Alvin... ;)
Well its Friday and will have some time to crawl under there and have a look.
 

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cant create new threads so i write in this thread. Im from poland and got Bronco II 89r 2.9V6 5 speed manual mazda or mitsu 4x4. got troubles witch gearbox. when i start engine i could hear somthing like chrrrrrrchrrrchrrr from gearbox. when i press clutch pedal to the floor this noise dissapear. 1-2-3 and d gear when i drive is so loud chrrrrrrchrrr from gearbox on 4th gear when i drive faster there is no this sound. what could it be? on polish forums they cant answear me. Please help. sorry for writting in this thread
 

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cant create new threads so i write in this thread. Im from poland and got Bronco II 89r 2.9V6 5 speed manual mazda or mitsu 4x4. got troubles witch gearbox. when i start engine i could hear somthing like chrrrrrrchrrrchrrr from gearbox. when i press clutch pedal to the floor this noise dissapear. 1-2-3 and d gear when i drive is so loud chrrrrrrchrrr from gearbox on 4th gear when i drive faster there is no this sound. what could it be? on polish forums they cant answear me. Please help. sorry for writting in this thread
Good evening Hanaka,
I had the same truck you have and had the same problem once. What the cause was in my case, a tooth on the input shaft broke off and was bouncing around inside. From your description it sounds like the trans still works except for the noise. You should at least open it up to see if you can remove the broken piece before it damages anything else inside. Short of that a replacement of the shaft would be in order and if you are going to do that, might as well completely rebuild it replaceing the synchrose. Good luck.
 

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every gear is going how to say hm good. i have no problems witch gears every is putting correct 1-2-3-4-d. no noise while changing no troubles witch changing no gear going out when just perfect. But this chrrrrrrrrr from gearbox. its like gearbox run and work correct but this noise. must put my gerbox out and see. i buy my bronco about 3 days ago and back home witch this chrrrrrr about 150miles. and transmission work good but noise. i hope that`s something cheap in repair because in poland is hard to get bronco 5 speed manual trans
 

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i think that could be also Input shaft bearing it coul be damaged and imput shaft working how to say ..... up and down
 

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i think that could be also Input shaft bearing it coul be damaged and imput shaft working how to say ..... up and down
If you are right and you rebuild don't forget to replace the synchrose...
 

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I have replaced those seals (they were actually good in my case) with some metal frost plugs following instructions I found here.

If you say it isn't that bad then I will try not to worry, just don't like the idea of that seal leaking at all.

Tim
Just an FYI for anyone that might come across this in a search.

Those rubber plugs are prone to leaking and burning up transmissions due to lack of fluid and people not checking them. The replacement metal expansion plugs are Fords new solution to the problem. A dab of RTV around the outside perimeter and you're good to go. I had to due this in the R1 transmission I had in a '92 Ranger sometime ago; basically same transmission only smaller.
 
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