'92-'96s Who has disconnected the air bag controller?

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Di Lullo

Discussion Starter · Jan 1, 2011

Under the dash, who has disconnected? I can get to mine but can't see on the top how it is connected. This is making it difficult to disconnect...:doh0715:

Anyone with previous experience?

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cajunrebel

· #2 · Jan 1, 2011

I will probably be taking my dash back off in a few days and if you have not gotten a response I can take a couple pictures for ya. Should not be too hard. I take it you are disabling them. If so then you probably want to search for how to safe the system first to prevent any possible accidental firings. Or is your airbag module faulty and your wanting to replace it?

miesk5

· #3 · Jan 1, 2011

yo D;
Now, this is from my 96's service manual which is most likely same as your yr.

"Diagnostic Monitor, Air Bag
CAUTION:
When servicing the air bag diagnostic monitor (14B056)... The Diagnosis and Testing portion of this section is written to give safety first priority.

Removal
1. WARNING: THE ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT NECESSARY FOR SYSTEM DEPLOYMENT IS POWERED DIRECTLY FROM THE BATTERY AND BACKUP POWER SUPPLY. TO AVOID ACCIDENTAL DEPLOYMENT AND POSSIBLE PERSONAL INJURY, THE POSITIVE BATTERY CABLE MUST BE DISCONNECTED FOR ONE MINUTE PRIOR TO SERVICING OR REPLACING ANY SYSTEM COMPONENTS.Note:
When the battery is disconnected and reconnected, some abnormal drive symptoms may occur while the powertrain control module (PCM) (12A650) relearns its adaptive strategy. The vehicle may need to be driven 16 km (10 miles) or more to relearn the strategy.

Disconnect battery positive cable and wait one minute for backup power supply energy to be depleted.
2. Locate air bag diagnostic monitor (light blue, wrapped in black foam, above the gas pedal) and disconnect the two connectors.
3. Depress tabs retaining air bag diagnostic monitor to air bag monitor bracket (14B058). Slide air bag diagnostic monitor off air bag monitor bracket.
4. Disconnect electrical wiring connectors to air bag diagnostic monitor. Remove air bag diagnostic monitor.
Installation
1. Follow removal procedures in reverse order.
2. Run system prove-out check.
Air Bag Diagnostic Monitor Location diagram..will copy later if you want it.

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FE Bronco

· #4 · Jan 1, 2011

If you are trying to deactivate the airbag, why don't you just pull the fuse/relay for it? It's a whole lot easier. Also, disconnect the battery first, look on the back of your steering wheel and you will see where the airbag is bolted on. Unbolt it, there is just a little 2 wire plug to it, disconnect the plug and just put it back on. I think if you do it that way, your airbag light won't come on either. Then, if you ever need to hook it back up, like to sell it, it only takes 5 minutes.

bossind

· #5 · Jan 1, 2011

Why deactivate it?

TheUnforgiven

· #6 · Jan 1, 2011

i think he has some sort of airbag module problem, which makes the truck ding at him constantly. it was in another thread of his several months ago.

pfun41

· #7 · Jan 1, 2011

fix the problem, not the syptom

Di Lullo

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jan 1, 2011

cajunrebel said:
I will probably be taking my dash back off in a few days and if you have not gotten a response I can take a couple pictures for ya. Should not be too hard. I take it you are disabling them. If so then you probably want to search for how to safe the system first to prevent any possible accidental firings. Or is your airbag module faulty and your wanting to replace it?

That would be GREAT. Let me know what the connectors look like and how they unplug on top of the controller. That's my real problem, there's no room to get my fat head up there under the dash to see how to unplug it.

Di Lullo

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 1, 2011

TheUnforgiven said:
i think he has some sort of airbag module problem, which makes the truck ding at him constantly. it was in another thread of his several months ago.

I attempted to find the issue a few times, but couldn't. Although I will admit I didn't try too hard. At this point I just want to deactivate it so it doesn't beep itself to a dead battery in a few days like it has been. I'll get around to figuring it out, but if it's as easy as unplugging the thing until I figure it out might as well, won't have to worry about a dead battery then.:thumbup

Di Lullo

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jan 1, 2011

FE Bronco said:
If you are trying to deactivate the airbag, why don't you just pull the fuse/relay for it? It's a whole lot easier. Also, disconnect the battery first, look on the back of your steering wheel and you will see where the airbag is bolted on. Unbolt it, there is just a little 2 wire plug to it, disconnect the plug and just put it back on. I think if you do it that way, your airbag light won't come on either. Then, if you ever need to hook it back up, like to sell it, it only takes 5 minutes.

If I remember right, there is no fuse for the controller alone, which means I'll lose power to other stuff. Atleast I think I remember correctly...

FE Bronco

· #11 · Jan 1, 2011

Di Lullo said:
I attempted to find the issue a few times, but couldn't. Although I will admit I didn't try too hard. At this point I just want to deactivate it so it doesn't beep itself to a dead battery in a few days like it has been. I'll get around to figuring it out, but if it's as easy as unplugging the thing until I figure it out might as well, won't have to worry about a dead battery then.:thumbup

Guys, isn't there an easier way to handle this issue? Like a fuse or relay to the warning beeper? I mean, you can pull a fuse to deactivate your door dinger if it gets stuck. Can't he do the same with this, without diving under the dash??

FE Bronco

· #12 · Jan 1, 2011

Never mind, just saw the other answer. :doh0715: I was in 2 different windows and hadn't refreshed. :banghead

Di Lullo

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 1, 2011

FE Bronco said:
Never mind, just saw the other answer. :doh0715: I was in 2 different windows and hadn't refreshed. :banghead

Haha I wish it was that easy. I couldn't even pull the door dinger fuse without losing power to other stuff. I pulled the module for that too, but it sits lowers under the dash and is easier to get too. :rofl:

Di Lullo

Discussion Starter · #14 · Feb 13, 2011

Anybody got pictures of the connector maybe?

fordbronco1995

· #15 · Feb 13, 2011

Di Lullo said:
Under the dash, who has disconnected? I can get to mine but can't see on the top how it is connected. This is making it difficult to disconnect...:doh0715:

Anyone with previous experience?

REMOVAL:
1. Disconnect battery positive cable and wait one minute for backup power supply energy to be depleted. WARNING: THE ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT NECESSARY FOR SYSTEM DEPLOYMENT IS POWERED DIRECTLY FROM THE BATTERY AND BACKUP POWER SUPPLY. TO AVOID ACCIDENTAL DEPLOYMENT AND POSSIBLE PERSONAL INJURY, THE POSITIVE BATTERY CABLE MUST BE DISCONNECTED FOR ONE MINUTE PRIOR TO SERVICING OR REPLACING ANY SYSTEM COMPONENTS.

Text Auto part Font Line art Automotive exterior

2. Locate air bag diagnostic monitor beneath and to the left of the steering column and disconnect the two connectors.
3. Depress tabs retaining air bag diagnostic monitor to air bag monitor bracket. Slide air bag diagnostic monitor off air bag monitor bracket.
4. Disconnect electrical wiring connectors to air bag diagnostic monitor. Remove air bag diagnostic monitor.

INSTALLATION:
1. For installation, follow removal procedures in reverse order.
2. Run system prove-out check. NOTE: When the battery is disconnected and reconnected, some abnormal drive symptoms may occur while the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) relearns its adaptive strategy. The vehicle may need to be driven 10 miles or more to relearn the strategy.

Side Note:WARNING: THE BACKUP POWER SUPPLY ENERGY MUST BE DEPLETED BEFORE ANY AIR BAG COMPONENT SERVICE IS PERFORMED. TO DEPLETE THE BACKUP POWER SUPPLY ENERGY, DISCONNECT THE BATTERY POSITIVE CABLE AND WAIT ONE MINUTE.

READ BELOW IN BOLD, A LOT OF ANSWERS TO A LOT OF QUESTIONS

The air bag diagnostic monitor continually monitors all supplemental air bag restraint system components and wiring connections for possible faults in the system. If the air bag diagnostic monitor detects a fault in the supplemental air bag restraint system when the ignition switch is in the RUN position, a diagnostic trouble code will be displayed on the air bag indicator, located in the instrument cluster. Performing system diagnostics is the main purpose of the air bag diagnostic monitor.

The air bag diagnostic monitor does not deploy the air bag in the event of a crash. The LH and RH primary crash sensors are "hard wired" to the air bag; therefore, the LH and RH primary crash sensors and RH safing sensor and bracket sensor determine when to deploy the air bag.

Features and functions of the air bag diagnostic monitor are described below.

The air bag diagnostic monitor illuminates the air bag indicator for approximately six seconds when the ignition switch is in the RUN position and then turns the indicator off. This shows that the air bag indicator is operational. If the air bag indicator does not illuminate or the indicator stays on or flashes at any time, a fault has been detected by the air bag diagnostic monitor.
Diagnostic trouble codes may not be displayed for approximately 30 seconds after the ignition switch is placed in the RUN position. This is the amount of time the air bag diagnostic monitor requires to perform all tests and verify system faults, if present.
Each diagnostic trouble code (a series of flashes and pauses of the air bag indicator) represents a two-digit number. Each diagnostic trouble code is always displayed at least twice. For example, a diagnostic trouble Code 32 is displayed as three flashes, followed by a one-second pause, then two flashes, followed by a three-second pause.
If a system fault is present and the air bag indicator is malfunctioning, an audible tone will be heard, indicating that system service is required. The tone is a series of five sets of five beeps. This does not indicate a diagnostic trouble Code 55. If the tone is heard, the air bag indicator is inoperative and a system fault that requires service is present.
CAUTION: The thermal fuse does not blow (open) because of excessive current flowing through it. DO NOT attempt to jumper out the thermal fuse with a circuit breaker or any other type of fuse.

If a fault exists that makes unwanted air bag deployment possible, the air bag diagnostic monitor has an internal thermal fuse that will blow (open) automatically. This removes all power to the air bag deployment circuit.
The air bag indicator will flash the appropriate diagnostic trouble code to indicate the suspect circuit. If the indicator is malfunctioning the tone will be heard.
Diagnostic trouble codes are prioritized numerically so if two or more different faults occur at the same time, the fault having the highest priority will be displayed first. After that fault has been corrected, the next highest priority fault will be displayed.
The air bag diagnostic monitor includes an internal backup power supply. This feature provides sufficient backup power to deploy the air bag in the event the battery or battery cables are damaged in an accident before safing and primary crash sensors close. The backup power supply will deplete its stored energy approximately one minute after the positive battery cable is disconnected.

ALSO, THERE IS NO SERVICABLE FUSE OR RELAY FOR THE AIR BAG CONTROL MODULE, THE AIR BAG CONTROL MODULE HAS AN INTERNAL FUSE AND WHEN IT BLOWS YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE WHOLE AIR BAG CONTROL MODULE FOR AROUND $250.00 - $300.00 DOLLARS, AND IF YOU DONT FIX THE PROBLEM THAT CAUSED IT TO BLOW IN THE FIRST PLACE IT WILL JUST BLOW THE INTERNAL FUSE AGAIN, THUS HAVING WASTED YOUR MONEY, ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT JUST BECAUSE THE AIR BAG CONTROL MODULE MAY NOT BE IN OPERATION DOES NOT MEAN YOU WONT HAVE AIR BAGS IN THE EVENT OF AN ACCIDENT.

if you cant see the diagram let me know.:thumbup

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Wopicetti

· #16 · Mar 28, 2012

anyone disconect air bag module,did it cause any other problems dont want the air bags hooked up and the buzzer just sucks.

Steve83

· #17 · Mar 28, 2012

No. Not one person has ever disconnected an airbag module. Never. You'll be the first.

TheUnforgiven

· #18 · Mar 28, 2012

damn steve, you bustin' balls HARDcore tonight. :rofl:

what the hell set you off? :histerica

Steve83

· #19 · Mar 28, 2012

I didn't realize I was being any different than usual... :shrug I guess I'm just amazed that the guy still had to axe that question after (I HOPE) reading this whole thread.

opc1: Nor do I unnerstan why anyone would care enough to WANT to disconnect it. :scratchhe Is it keeping him awake at night just knowing it's plugged in?

Wopicetti

· #20 · Mar 28, 2012

Dear asshole the ****ing buzzer plucks my ****ing nerves thats all ass wipe !

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