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I drilled a hole in the shock tower and ran the air fitting into it; figure there's plenty of room to fill them from the wheel well with the 37's.

 

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Your dedication to the TTB is inspiring. Or crazy? its one of those two :p
LOL, Probably both.
But seriously: There is a reason that solid axle cars, and you can go all the way back to the days of Ferrari's, Corvette's and even the Cobra's went faster and handled better, once they went to independent suspensions. I know someone is going to argue that front ends were always independent, but before they days of coil springs, they used a transverse leaf spring set up.
There is a reason that desert racers stick with the TTB, it flat out works! I don't care how much you wheel your rig, the majority of it's life is seen on the road where the handling is much better than a solid axle.
Yeah you have to modify things a bit to make them work when you lift them, but you have to do that with a solid axle too. When I ran 44"s on my '74 Bronco, I still had to drop the radius arms and fabricate the steering, radius arm, gears , etc...
IDK, maybe it's just me, but I really think the TTB gets a bad rap because people either don't know or aren't willing to do what it takes to make them work.

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Nah i wouldnt call it hate, just bustin his chops a bit :p
I have no doubt you can build a beefy TTB, like @cobrajoe said, the desert runners do it all the time.

I think the biggest reason they get hate on, is because its much more challenging to align them than the standard IFS system you see on cars today and most people dont take the time to do it right.
 

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The Ford TTB is probably one of the most hated and misunderstood suspensions ever to come out of Detroit. I think sometimes human nature makes people take the path of least resistance, especially in this day and age. Years ago, you added lift blocks, an add-a-leaf or whole spring pack, swapped out to longer shocks and off you went. With the more complex suspension like a TTB; you add a a two inch taller coil spring and all of a sudden, you have camber and steering issues. So what do people do today? They search the inter-web and everybody say get rid of it, their junk and you need to know a witch doctor and some voodoo to get them to remotely work.
Even with drop brackets and drop Pitman arms, these vehicles tend to have a lot of bump steer that changes the toe through the arc of travel in the suspension, and scrubs the tires. Switching to the Superunner steering really helps ( more of a sideways "K" instead of an inverted "Y" setup) and I think is probably the only company that has addressed the steering issue in this vehicles once lifted. On a SAS, you have to modify (or buy ,if available) the panhard to correct the bump steer issue that comes with lift.

I think most people throw in the towel when they go to an alignment shop and the only thing the Technician (an overstated word in this application IMO) says all he can do is set the toe. If the Tech actually did his job and used adjustable Caster/Camber bushings, there would be a lot more happy people running these things down the road.
I look at it this way, these TTB's worked fine out of the factory ; hell, Ford started the Twin I beam back in 1965 up until it was replaced with TTB in 1980-1997, so, if it didn't work, they wouldn't have stayed with it all these years. Truth is, if you spend the time to replicate the way it worked before you lifted it, you'd end up a lot happier in the end.
I know I've fabricated a lot of the stuff to make it work, but this is what we did before you could buy everything over the counter. (think "early hot rodding" days) I think if the aftermarket did a better job on the TTB lift kits, there'd be a lot more happy customers.
Again, just my $0.02
 

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I'm a little surprised, I really thought I would get more $hit about ^ this^.

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I used to only want a straight a me, my opinions have changed though. I am more intrigued than anything by the ttb and that makes it worth the trouble for me. To add there hasn’t been any trouble. I’m fortunate to have a ford tech that won’t let anyone touch my truck on the alignment rack but him because he wants it done right.




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I'm a little surprised, I really thought I would get more $hit about ^ this^.

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Dude; this website is semi-dead.


Ever since the upgrade this place has been a ghost town.
 

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I love the commitment to the ttb. Your statements about if it didn't work then why did ford commit to it is so true.

I also laugh at ttb and alignment issues that people complain about. Every 80-96 ford I've owned has been easier on tires and alignment than most modern ifs front ends.
Most modern ifs with large wheels, low profile tires and stiff suspensions take way more alignment tweaking than ford ttb ever has.

I work in a tire shop and see more modern vehicles with less than 50k miles eating tires due to alignment issues than any ttb ford. Some manufacturers are starting to say vehicles need alignment checks at every oil change.
 

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I have never had alignment issues with them either. Owned a brand new one for three years and my current 1990 for 22 years. Both only ran/run 33s and I have rebuilt the 1990's front end twice. But, partly because good replacement parts are hard to "find", sort of.

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I know you're kidding, but for those who aren't familiar with air lift bags, it really doesn't change the ride. Nothing like air shocks did years ago, now that felt like you had wedged a 2 x 4 in the suspension.
 
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