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I play in a riverbed that has water about a 6 inches to a foot deep and when driving through it I am having alot of issues of it getting in the intake. I do not want to put a snorkel nor run it to the firewall. I would like to see what inventive things people have come up with with out hurting the astetics of the vehicle. I have tried reversing the stock air box and then i have modified it too where it is pulling air from between it and the firewall. I would post a pic but since it doesn't work it would be a waste of digital space. Between that and the ignition getting water in it I was running on 4 cylinders yesterday. The 302 doesn't hardly have enough power as it is. With only 4 banging away you really start to lose momentum. I also want to keep it within a reaonable budget. I have seen people with a modified ARB but I really dont like the looks of a snorkel. Although I have a feeling that this is going to be the only alternative.

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87 Bronco
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Slow down, if the water is only 6 inches to a foot deep I can't see how you're ingesting water, unless you're blasting through at high speed. Get a rubber boot for the distributor from a Mustang to keep the cap dry, and silicone the plug wires.
 

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mr. cody- do you have a dizzy boot? go junkyard diving and get you one off a mustang. thatll help with some of that ignition/water stuff.
as for snorkel alternatives... you need to get air from as high as possible.
trying to get air from inside the engine bay somewhere isnt ideal because youre still going to get water in the compartment.
stock- youre breather is in the highest location (on top of the radiator)... unless you run it through the fender- and up higher... you arnt going to get better results.
if you dont want to go through the firewall- make your own snorkel out of some PVC (keeps costs down) and run it through the fender, up the a-pillar.
if you search "snorkel" youll see my thread "lets see those snorkels" or "show me your snorkels" some sh*t like that...
thats my $.02
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I took my truck through a puddle at least 3 1/2 feet deep and didn't have a problem with water. BTW, how did you get your distributor wet in 6in. to a foot of water. I could imagine that would have taken some doing.
 

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if you go into the water going over ~15mph- its kinda like running into a wall- youll sling water a good 2ft over your truck- water will find its way into the engine.
we had some real bad rain for a week straight- and i drove right into a 1ft of water cus there were no street lights and it was raining (the road just looked shiny... not flooded). water was everywhere and i was pissing people off next to me because they had their windows down...retards...
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WheelinElvis said:
if you go into the water going over ~15mph- its kinda like running into a wall- youll sling water a good 2ft over your truck- water will find its way into the engine.
well no shit sherlock.. LOL.

I've blasted thru MILES of water over 12" deep thru the years and never been able to suck water.

something aint right here.
 

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he DID say that he reversed his air box so that his breather is by the firewall... might have something to do with it. when your tires sling water under the wender well- it can hit the firewall...
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yeah get a distributor boot. if you cant find one, go to a ford/lincoln/mercury dealer, they are only 20 bucks. Thats where i got mine (all theones at the JY were dry rotted). Ask for the rubber distributor cover found on the mustang 5.0s/ Mercury sedans etc. Thatll help out alot. As far as water getting in the intake, i've gone through 2 foot deep stufs with no problems with my stock setup check and make sure your box isnt cracked etc. Either your going through stuff deeper then you think, or your hitting it hard and splashing it up.... Did you ahve a problem before you turned your airbox around? If you look under my hood after i hit some mud/water most of the splashing is in the back of my hood and engine...
 

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Jeezus, I had to hit 5ft of water before mine started getting wet.:histerica Now I got a rubber mustang boot and will eventually get a snorkel.
 

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you could run your intake ducting through the firewall into the cab. Get creative, Ive seen it done on quite a few mud bog rigs.
 

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OK I have already turned my distribor in a big glob of silicone, the only way its going to come off now is with a hammer and a big screwdriver. I need to redo it but I am waiting to do the ignition upgrade with a MSD 6a box. Got the MSD 6a but dont think it will do much with out the higher output coil.

As for the airbox, again I do not want to run a snorkel or inside the cab through the firewall. I am looking for another solution.

BTW I am hitting this water at 40 to 60 mph. Basically prerunning a sand riverbed with narrow and shallow streams running down it. The river bed is over a half a mile wide at places. The little steams are anwhere from 2 foot across and 6 inches deep to 20 foot across and 2 foot deep. I try not to hit the big one very fast. I seen a guy rip his straight axle right out from underneath his truck last year hitting one of the deep ones. Its a blast out there if you like to go fast and love to get wet.

I will post a few pics of the area later this week.

We are going to do a 30 mile run down and back this coming sunday if anyone wants to join us.


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BTW I am hitting this water at 40 to 60 mph. Basically prerunning a sand riverbed with narrow and shallow streams running down it. The river bed is over a half a mile wide at places. The little steams are anwhere from 2 foot across and 6 inches deep to 20 foot across and 2 foot deep. I try not to hit the big one very fast. I seen a guy rip his straight axle right out from underneath his truck last year hitting one of the deep ones. Its a blast out there if you like to go fast and love to get wet.


T Cody
Id hate to say this...but you are retarted.
 

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codysown said:
OK I have already turned my distribor in a big glob of silicone, the only way its going to come off now is with a hammer and a big screwdriver. I need to redo it but I am waiting to do the ignition upgrade with a MSD 6a box. Got the MSD 6a but dont think it will do much with out the higher output coil.

As for the airbox, again I do not want to run a snorkel or inside the cab through the firewall. I am looking for another solution.

BTW I am hitting this water at 40 to 60 mph. Basically prerunning a sand riverbed with narrow and shallow streams running down it. The river bed is over a half a mile wide at places. The little steams are anwhere from 2 foot across and 6 inches deep to 20 foot across and 2 foot deep. I try not to hit the big one very fast. I seen a guy rip his straight axle right out from underneath his truck last year hitting one of the deep ones. Its a blast out there if you like to go fast and love to get wet.

I will post a few pics of the area later this week.

We are going to do a 30 mile run down and back this coming sunday if anyone wants to join us.


T Cody
well theres your problem
 

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Id hate to say this...but you are retarted.
Are you saying that a Bronco cant hang with Jeeps or S10's?
Because that is exactly whats going on out here.
 

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Yes now help find a solution.
snorkle and a rubber boot for the distributor.

i too had the same problems, but i slowed my ass down, even though i was nooo where near your speeds . my original cap was bad about taking in water, did it alot, even when pressure washing. my accel cap dont have that problem, dont do it when i pressure wash it either. i dont know why, guess the other one just had age on it.
 

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So you think that a new cap will cure this. I understand that I am hitting these holes pretty hard. But its like the first guys that look at the extreme Rock climbing. I dont have rocks to play on so we have a different kind of fun. Well its fun until your only running on 4 cylinders.
If I get the MSD setup do you think this will be as affective as your accel. i would like to keep the components matching if possible. If not the Accel is a good brand also. As I stated I am going to intall a MSD 6a. It came out of a 302 mustang.
As far as the intake goes, I have it looking like a maze right now. I can hardly believe that water is finding its way in there. I have a few more ideas that I am going to try before I give in and do the snorkel thing.
 
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