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I'm making sure my cable within specs bc I get a shuddering sometimes in OD at speeds over 70. Also, there is some particulate in the fluid that came out when I hooked up my pressure gauge. I'm idling at 0 psi in neutral and ~32 psi with the Lokar spacer. I read that it should read around 30 under normal acceleration, but mines more like ~40-45. I have to make sure I don't damage this new tranny. What psi is too much and will hurt it? Also, my temp gauge isn't reading over 100 and it's 50 outside right now, so I don't think it's warm enough to check. Am I off base??
 

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yo Ted, there are a ew threads on this on a Stock AOD, but the one's I just reviewed a week or so ago for someone else didn't give the best procedure because some had mods done to the AOD; while others ref. a Mustang AOD adjustment.

I wouldn't do anything until you get expert opinion for someone here that actually performed the adjustment with the gauge or by a shop/or from Ford or the Ford Workshop manual.

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TV Linkage & Adjustment; "The best way to set the TV pressure is with a pressure gauge tapped into the side port of the transmission.. There is a tool you put on the end of the TV cable to set some preload and then you adjust the TV cable so that it reads exactly 5 PSI..(in neutral, with the motor warm)..." read more
Source: by MYLITTLEHO at corral.net via magnumpi at FSB http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84363

btw, on page 2, post #23, User, badshoe is Kenneth at Bad Shoe Productions badshoeproductions.com
The Link that Ken showed is bad because he moved the vid; & his new URL shows just the cable adjustment @ TB and at AOD; it does not show the gauge install nor the PSI specs. Here is a new URL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L3hNzxdiYw


Throttle Valve (TV) Adjustment; Using a 100 psi pressure gauge to the TV port on transmission
Source: by tciauto.com https://web.archive.org/web/2007061...cts/Instructions/instructions/431000_inst.htm
original URL is gone.

TV Linkage Adjustment
Source: by Baumann Electronic Controls, http://www.becontrols.com/tvlinkage.htm


TV Cable Adjustment, for SuperCoupe
Source: by duanemyhre at http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30511
 

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Thanks, Miesk. I've read most of those and a ton others and watched videos, too, I'm just still unsure. I've called a couple of trans shops in my area and they didn't know much about the AOD. I didn't think to call Ford. I will do that and see if they're open. Im pretty sure it's good to go based off everything I've found. I'm mainly concerned about the pressure under acceleration. 40 is a little higher than everything I've read but I'm wondering if that's bc it weighs significantly more than a mustang or cougar.
Thanks, again!
 

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That's correct, Miesk. The same one on the Lokar page Seattle shared is the one I'm using. I just got off the phone with the service shop here in Lawton and he didn't tell me anything we haven't discussed here and in research. Apparently, they don't have specific pressure figures, just how to set up the test. Even his trans tech didn't know since everything's electronic now. I'm going to call some local shops and see if I can get more information. It was adjusted by a shop here but bc of the shuddering in OD over 70, I don't think it was done properly. Steve's page was the first one I went to. Everything is done that way to a T.
 

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yo Ted, ok,
Suggest contacting Kenneth at Bad Shoe Productions http://www.badshoeproductions.com/contact.html

and ask if his AOD transmission Rebuild DVD contains the specs & I it works on your PC (32 bit or 64 bit); many DVDs and CDs will not work on WIN8 or 8.1
$35.95 includes shipping US only
or
$29.95 Purchase Download

EDIT; corrected C6 to AOD Rebuild DVD
 

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HIGH - wider shift points, hard downshift, firmer shifts LOW - stacked shifts, weak f

http://forums.corral.net/forums/general-mustang-tech/796792-too-much-too-little-aod-tv-pressure.html

I have an aod with the lokar setup and this was the process that worked for me. I screwed with a gage and the lokar tool etc. below is the process that worked from me. Set your od to come it around 60 mph. Higher pressure is better than lower pressure.

Silver fox knows his stuff when it comes to an aod...

HIGH - wider shift points, hard downshift, firmer shifts
LOW - stacked shifts, weak firmness, easy downshifts

For the most performance out of the STOCK VB, make the TV pressure as high as you can get it. You can do this by having a freind place his foot on the peddle WOT and then adjust the TV cable so that it is pulling ALL THE WAY OUT at wot. This is the limp mode, never go wrong setting - but it will make the car drive different as the shifts will be higher and harder to downshift....and is possible OD won't engage due to high TV. Then you just back it down to where you like it.
 

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Thanks for the info, George. I've been reading the hell out of Silver Fox's posts on clickclickracing.com. I'm pretty sure I've got it where its good to go. 35 psi with the block gauge in and ~40-45 psi at normal acceleration. I'm just waiting to hear back from Monster's tech department to know what they recommend for my particular trans since they built it. I have one more question, though: is it normal for there to be a small amount of particulate in the fluid of a new transmission? Like it breaking in or something? There is no metal, just what looks like a little bit of clutch material.
 

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I bought my transmission from transmission depot in Florida. They recommended a fluid change in the first 45 days or few thousand miles. I initially broke my intermediate input shaft in my truck but it was fixed under warranty. Less than 50 miles on it. They tech also told me to run more tv pressure because my clutches looked like they were slipping a little and would not last without more pressure. That is when they informed me about the WOT method that was described by silver fox in my last post.


A little bit of stuff sounds okay. I have seen grit in a pan that had be scooped out the transmission continued to operate for years. Guess I kinda depends on the type of clutch material too. I am interested in what monster will say about it.

Mine shutters a little too. Feels like a slight lean surge/flutter. Maybe the engine is running lean. It also clunks hard sometimes when going in and out of OD but trans depot said that is becuase of the shift kit and valve body

I called trans depot today about temperatures since I was curious. They said 100-150, my typical operating range is fine. Think of 200 as a max temp. They said at 220 permenant damage from overheating is occuring. Mine does get over 100 degrees in This weather unless I really start giving it hell then I see about 150. My shift points also change, go down, as my fluid gets warmer.
 

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Good info, thanks. Monster still hasn't called me back yet, so I wrote an email regarding pressures. My temp gauge hasn't gone over 100 since it's dropped to 50 and colder here. I'm just going to do what you and others have said and dial up the pressure. Better safe than sorry. Thanks to everyone for all the input!
 

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yo Ted,
Hopefully they reply with the pressures; Monster does show the AOD TV Cable Adjustment in two videos, but no pressure specs. Hope they will not refer you to those vids.
 

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Those videos are what they've told me to watch, which I have numerous times. Their customer service is great in the sales department, but it blows in the tech. Very annoying. I'm done messing with it for now. It's cold as balls and snow/sleet is moving in. I set it at 34 psi with spacer, reads ~5 at idle, ~43 during acceleration. I tried the WOT method, but when the throttle returned to idle there was ~3/8" of TV cable still sticking out past the throttle connection. IDK, like I said, f it. I'm done with it for now. I really hope it doesn't screw up.
 

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yo Ted,
OK, I was concerned that the answer from them would direct you to the Vids; see my post #9;
Suggest contacting Kenneth at Bad Shoe Productions http://www.badshoeproductions.com/contact.html
For that price, it may be well worth the $ spent if Ken can confirm the pressure tests are in the DVD
 

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I understand your frustration

Initially when I was tuning my AOD I used the guide thing from lokar and a pressure gage (at idle 0 without guide and 35 psi with it) mine was immediately shift from 1-2-3-OD. It was going into OD at 35 mph.

This was not right so I called transmission depot and they told me that the valve body and shift kit installed in the transmission will affect the pressure. Mine has a modified valve body and transgo 'seriously hard' shift kit. Transmission depot tech said with my aftermarket stuff and the clutches I had to throw away the guide in the lokar kit. Set it using the WOT throttle method then work the cable looser and looser until it shifts where I want it to. Mine shifts about 3000 rpm and goes into overdrive around 60 mph. i also removed the cheap pressure gage I had on it because the pressure got really high and filled the face of the gage with transmission fluid. Come to think of it at idle I think it is running about 100 psi.


I think as long as it it going into OD at a reasonable speed you should be good. You could aways try calling transmission depot they have techs that answer the phone M-F 8 hrs a day. http://www.transdepot.net/
 

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100 psi?? Holy cow. I reset mine to around 10 at idle. I am going to drive it today and then I'll try the WOT method if I don't like it. You don't have any excess sticking out past the throttle body linkage? Thanks for the contact info, Miesk. I'm going to shoot him an email and see what he says.
 

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I looked at the install graphics again. I have cable mounted like the figure 4 in Seattle Fsb's link. I remembered I had problems with my cable not returning all the way and leaving some slack hanging out the end. I mounted a carb return spring from the top on the transmission tv arm to one of the Trans pan bolt. Never had cable sticking out again.

I did similar to this guy, look at his number 2 paragraph and picture. I used a little 90* bracket under one of the pan screws because I have a different pan and that worked better for me.

http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/transm...ing-and-setting-up-lokars-ford-aod-cable-kit/
 

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If your TV cable is not returning all the way, then you were just chasing your tail with adjustments. I found that out to and I was working on mine. You can check this by pulling your throttle to wide-open then releasing it, climbing under the truck and checking if the tv cable completely returned
 
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