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I pulled both hubs and they were assembled slighty different. Anyone have the actual assembly diagram? I searched with no luck. 5 screw hub. 1990 bronc.

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If I was you I would just sh!t can those auto hubs (or dump them on ebay is what I did), and buy yourself a set of high quality manual locking ones.
The auto lockers that cam on these trucks is weak......very weak, and chances are that when decides to fail, it will be exactly when you need them most.

Just do a search here on manual hubs and see for yourself.
 

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Street,

Thanks for the advice. I am aware these are a weak link. However, until cash flow improves, I have to live with them.:banghead

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You do know that the set of manual locking Warn hubs are like 45 bucks?

I'd hardly call that expensive considering what they do, and where the autos will leave you stuck.
 

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Steve83,
There's another active thread on the SAME PAGE as this one about hubs/wheel bearings, and a few thousand more going back thru every page in this & many other forums.
There are no diagrams on how to assemble the internal parts of the locking mechanism, including all of miesk5's web page. Please show me the way.

You do know that the set of manual locking Warn hubs are like 45 bucks?
I understand the issues with the autos.

I will PM you my address to send the $45

Jeff:thumbup

They will be replaced soon, however I need to put this together with what I have.
 

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I'd just leave them alone and don't wheel until you get the manual hubs.. You don't have to have fully assembled hubs to drive around. :)
 

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where did you find manual hubs for 45 bucks? mine were $68 WITH an employee discount from oreillys...
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For my 88 that was born in Jan (jan&feb were bastard months for some reason) the hubs (premium gold) were $167.00 and the install kit was $49.00. For a total of $231.00 from Drivetrain Specialists.
 

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That looks like what I pulled out of my 90. Went to manuals myself, anyone need parts for their autos? E-mail me? Cheap$$
 

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All,

Thanks for the replies!

I am asking the wrong question. If not, I guess I'll keep getting pounded by ya'll.:cry

Hub Body assembly internal guts?? There is a shaft internal to the hub body that slides onto the axle. There is a C-clip, gear with fingers, spring, locking gear on that shaft. Does the gear with fingers go on one side of the C-clip and the locking gear on the other side of the C-clip with the spring in the middle?? Or does everything go on one side?

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Hubs

jlhtec,

Gut the auto hub cap and duct tape it to the end of the hub and go get manuals. For the amount of time you have spent asking questions, you could have spent ~ $80 and had the hubs installed.

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Can't you guys get it through your thick heads that *some* people want to keep their auto hubs? Yes, there are problems with them, yes, they need regular maintenance and lubrication, yes, they can let you down, and no, you shouldn't be wheeling with them, but the convenience for a DD that only sees 4x4 in snow is *amazing*. Believe it or not, some people own Broncos and *DON'T WHEEL THEM*, they just drive them.

jlhtec is asking how his auto-hubs should be assembled. Not asking for hub replacement suggestions. Not asking for "gut them and duct tape them until you can replace them".

Just answer his question, if you can. More people piling on saying "replace them" doesn't help him at all with the question he has.

jlhtec, I don't know the answer to your question. It's possible that blowing up the diagram above will show you the answer, you might try taking a closer look at it. I'm doing brakes on my 94 next weekend, and lubing my auto hubs. If you still have a question then, I'll try to get pictures.
 

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im pretty sure, if i recall, behind that c-clip, youll have the spacer (washer with fingers- i think thats what youre calling it), the lock ring and all that good stuff. everything is held back by that c-clip. then you slide the auto hub assemly onto to that center shaft. then youll have the big lock ring that slides over the assembly into the groove of the hub-housing. then... well- i forgot the rest. when i switched to manuals i popped that spring off and never paid attention to how it went on.
hope that helps,
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sewiv said:
Can't you guys get it through your thick heads that *some* people want to keep their auto hubs? Yes, there are problems with them, yes, they need regular maintenance and lubrication, yes, they can let you down, and no, you shouldn't be wheeling with them, but the convenience for a DD that only sees 4x4 in snow is *amazing*. Believe it or not, some people own Broncos and *DON'T WHEEL THEM*, they just drive them.
My Bronco is a DD and rarely sees trails. I would never run autohubs simply for the reason that they can stop your Bronco from working in 2 wheel drive too. At least if the manuals fail, i just won't have 4x4. I understand what you are saying though.

Ji.

Click on Steve83's name, go to his supermotors sight (where i usually go if i don't have a diagram) and do some looking. You have me completely confused on what you are looking for.
 

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Bronco Rob said:
My Bronco is a DD and rarely sees trails. I would never run autohubs simply for the reason that they can stop your Bronco from working in 2 wheel drive too. At least if the manuals fail, i just won't have 4x4. I understand what you are saying though.
How can it stop 2WD from working? At worst, one might lock up and start spinning the front axle and driveshaft, but you'd still be able to drive.
 

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How can it stop 2WD from working? At worst, one might lock up and start spinning the front axle and driveshaft, but you'd still be able to drive.
When they start engaging and disengaging, or decide to stay half engaged they start popping, and it sounds like you lunched a wheel bearing. You can continue to drive on it, at the expense of ruining more parts.

I don't know if it is as common on Bronco's, but on the one Jeep CJ-5 i had when i first got it, it had a type of autohub that i was fascinated with, til it went bad, i kept driving on it since it was my only vehicle and i had to replace everything on that side of the axle, axleshaft and the rotor, and then at that point i had to do the rotor and brakes on the other side. While i was at it i swapped the autos out for manuals. That Jeep was a cursed vehicle, i ended up selling it.

For what it's worth with the manuals, i just lock them when i leave the house if i think i am going to need them, and then it's just like an auto, i hit the 4x4 button when i need it.
 
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