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E4od finally said goodbye. :cry:cry Which manual trans is easiest to swap into?
 

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all are going to be about the same. Np-435 / T-18 are 4 speeds no over drive. and the ZF is 5 speed over drive. I would stay away from the M5 trans.
 

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Wow quick response :) Thank you. I have heard many good things about the ZF, the local (good) yards have none, and Jasper wants 2300 for one. I will wait it out. I can't wait to have this pig back on the road!
 

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if you have the room, looks for a F250/350 4x4 with a 351w manual, they were the ones that mostly got the ZF's
 

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yo DEE,
As jopes advised, the Zf is a vg swap;
see swap, Parts Diagrams and other ZF info LINKs in my site @ http://www.broncolinks.com/index.php?index=55
incl;



S5-42 Swap from E4OD in a 95 5.0
Source: by Miss Kitten


S5-47 Swap Info from E4OD in a 90
Source: by runder at http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76617S5-47 Swap pics from E4OD in a 95
Source: by Superjet (Pile) at http://www.supermotors.net/registry/7384/22959

S5-42 to S5-47 Comparison pics Source: by Superjet (Pile) at http://www.supermotors.net/registry/7384/23784


S5-42 Swap from E4OD Parts List in a 94
Source: by Franklin (Jeff) at FSB

from ZF;
Description
The model number for the ZF transmission (7003) is S5-47. This model number can be divided
into three parts. First, “S” designates a synchronized transmission. Second, “5” designates the
number of forward gears. Finally, “47” is the approximate maximum input torque capacity in tens
of lb-ft. In this case 47 equals 470 lb-ft. input torque capacity.
The S5-47 ZF transmission is available in both wide ratio and close ratio versions. The wide ratio
version is available for all F-Series vehicles over 8500 lbs. GVW, all engines (6007), except FSuper
Duty equipped with a diesel engine. The close ratio version is available only in F-Series
vehicles with a 7.3L diesel engine and a GVW over 8500 lbs

The transmission features an aluminum case (7005) with an integral clutch housing. Because of the aluminum case, the tapered roller bearings of the transmission shafts must be fitted under preload. This is because heat expansion of the aluminum case is greater than that of the steel alloy mainshaft and countershaft cluster gear (7113). If the bearings were not pre-loaded, thiswould result in excessive end play when the case in warm, loaded operating conditions. The transmission also features shrink-fit gears on the countershaft cluster gear. Shrink-fit gears are connected to the countershaft cluster gear by friction only, rather than connected trough splines.
The gear is heated and lightly pressed onto the countershaft cluster gear. The subsequent cooling of the gear provides the shrink fitting. The countershaft cluster gear is serviced as an assembly.
NOTE: For vehicles equipped with the 7.3L diesel engine this transmission requires use of
synthetic Motorcraft MERCON® ATF XT-2-QDX or MERCON® equivalent
http://www.zf.com/na/content/media/...ce_portfolio/lcv/Troubleshooting_ZF_S5-47.pdf
 

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Can't find just a ZF, but lots of cheap donor trucks on Craigs right now
 

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Can't find just a ZF, but lots of cheap donor trucks on Craigs right now
You need to try salvage yards. This one in NJ has a ZF off a 94 F350 with 7.3L engine for $850. http://www.rt57parts.com/

Call the nearest yard to you and ask. If they don't have it they can do a search for you if you ask nicely.

They also have one from a 96 F250, but they don't list a price.
 

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You need to try salvage yards. This one in NJ has a ZF off a 94 F350 with 7.3L engine for $850. http://www.rt57parts.com/

Call the nearest yard to you and ask. If they don't have it they can do a search for you if you ask nicely.

They also have one from a 96 F250, but they don't list a price.
for his 5.0, a little harder to find:thumbup
 

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because you gave a listing for a 7.3
and diesels and big blocks share the same bellhousing pattern. ;)

what's so bad about the M5OD? Unless he is doing heavy duty towing ALL the time it's a good trans.

the E4OD is a hunk of shit, the M5OD is an upgrade.
 

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yo DEE;
For a YARD SEARCH on-line, I use;

http://www.mypartshop.com/
Select All Parts
then FORD TRUCK
I selected 1991,
F 150
Some Results:

Transmiss,Transaxle
M.T. 5 spd, ZF 4x4
89 F250 Transmiss,Transaxle
ZF 5sp 4X4 -61734- 0 091118
160715 0.0 Call 33 Call PORT MURRAY AUTO SALVAGE
908-689-3152
800-654-7456

90 FORD150 Transmiss,Transaxle
ZF 5 SPD 0 24631
44608 0.0 Call 31 Call Geese Auto Salvage Inc.
215-795-2302
215-795-0760



88 FORD250 Transmiss,Transaxle
ZF 5SPD 0 24668
26174 0.0 Call 31 Call Geese Auto Salvage Inc.
215-795-2302
215-795-0760


90
TFORD250 Transmiss,Transaxle
NOTES 0 P99199
156982 0.0 Call 38 Call Newark Motors & Export
973-589-5383
Newark Motors & Export
Manny
973-589-5383

241 Avenue P.
Newark NJ 07105

[email protected]


92 F250 Transmiss,Transaxle
5.8 ZF 5SPD.F2TA-7003-TA 0 021411
33870 0.0 $400.00 41 Call Rossi Auto Salvage
610-265-0643
610-265-0930

&
http://www.copartfinder.com
HAS Vehicle PICS!!!
 

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You need to try salvage yards. This one in NJ has a ZF off a 94 F350 with 7.3L engine for $850. http://www.rt57parts.com/

Call the nearest yard to you and ask. If they don't have it they can do a search for you if you ask nicely.

They also have one from a 96 F250, but they don't list a price.
Thank you!! I have my name in with the two local yards (Absolute and Big A) and waiting on one. I get a lot of stuff out of Absolute and they love my truck, so they might actually call me back haha. They said prices between $350 and $550.
 

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and diesels and big blocks share the same bellhousing pattern. ;)

what's so bad about the M5OD? Unless he is doing heavy duty towing ALL the time it's a good trans.

the E4OD is a hunk of shit, the M5OD is an upgrade.
I had a lot of issues with the E4od in my 7.3, but put a cooler and gauge on it and it's been behaving.

I actually found a "work truck" so my baby won't be towing anymore!
 

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yo DEE;
For a YARD SEARCH on-line, I use;

http://www.mypartshop.com/
Select All Parts
then FORD TRUCK
I selected 1991,
F 150
Some Results:

Transmiss,Transaxle
M.T. 5 spd, ZF 4x4
89 F250 Transmiss,Transaxle
ZF 5sp 4X4 -61734- 0 091118
160715 0.0 Call 33 Call PORT MURRAY AUTO SALVAGE
908-689-3152
800-654-7456

90 FORD150 Transmiss,Transaxle
ZF 5 SPD 0 24631
44608 0.0 Call 31 Call Geese Auto Salvage Inc.
215-795-2302
215-795-0760



88 FORD250 Transmiss,Transaxle
ZF 5SPD 0 24668
26174 0.0 Call 31 Call Geese Auto Salvage Inc.
215-795-2302
215-795-0760


90
TFORD250 Transmiss,Transaxle
NOTES 0 P99199
156982 0.0 Call 38 Call Newark Motors & Export
973-589-5383
Newark Motors & Export
Manny
973-589-5383

241 Avenue P.
Newark NJ 07105

[email protected]


92 F250 Transmiss,Transaxle
5.8 ZF 5SPD.F2TA-7003-TA 0 021411
33870 0.0 $400.00 41 Call Rossi Auto Salvage
610-265-0643
610-265-0930

&
http://www.copartfinder.com
HAS Vehicle PICS!!!
I am sorry for multiple posts, not sure how to quote multiple people! :whiteflag

Thank you also for this! I should have a new trans in it soon. I really want to be able to meet up with you guys for some snowy muddy offroading! :)
 

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yo DEE,
As jopes advised, the Zf is a vg swap;
see swap, Parts Diagrams and other ZF info LINKs in my site @ http://www.broncolinks.com/index.php?index=55
incl;



S5-42 Swap from E4OD in a 95 5.0
Source: by Miss Kitten


S5-47 Swap Info from E4OD in a 90
Source: by runder at http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76617S5-47 Swap pics from E4OD in a 95
Source: by Superjet (Pile) at http://www.supermotors.net/registry/7384/22959

S5-42 to S5-47 Comparison pics Source: by Superjet (Pile) at http://www.supermotors.net/registry/7384/23784


S5-42 Swap from E4OD Parts List in a 94
Source: by Franklin (Jeff) at FSB

from ZF;
Description
The model number for the ZF transmission (7003) is S5-47. This model number can be divided
into three parts. First, “S” designates a synchronized transmission. Second, “5” designates the
number of forward gears. Finally, “47” is the approximate maximum input torque capacity in tens
of lb-ft. In this case 47 equals 470 lb-ft. input torque capacity.
The S5-47 ZF transmission is available in both wide ratio and close ratio versions. The wide ratio
version is available for all F-Series vehicles over 8500 lbs. GVW, all engines (6007), except FSuper
Duty equipped with a diesel engine. The close ratio version is available only in F-Series
vehicles with a 7.3L diesel engine and a GVW over 8500 lbs

The transmission features an aluminum case (7005) with an integral clutch housing. Because of the aluminum case, the tapered roller bearings of the transmission shafts must be fitted under preload. This is because heat expansion of the aluminum case is greater than that of the steel alloy mainshaft and countershaft cluster gear (7113). If the bearings were not pre-loaded, thiswould result in excessive end play when the case in warm, loaded operating conditions. The transmission also features shrink-fit gears on the countershaft cluster gear. Shrink-fit gears are connected to the countershaft cluster gear by friction only, rather than connected trough splines.
The gear is heated and lightly pressed onto the countershaft cluster gear. The subsequent cooling of the gear provides the shrink fitting. The countershaft cluster gear is serviced as an assembly.
NOTE: For vehicles equipped with the 7.3L diesel engine this transmission requires use of
synthetic Motorcraft MERCON® ATF XT-2-QDX or MERCON® equivalent
http://www.zf.com/na/content/media/...ce_portfolio/lcv/Troubleshooting_ZF_S5-47.pdf
Wow! Just printed this out! Thank you!! Love the avatar by the way! :)
 

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LOL there is a multi quote button right next to the "quote" button.

press the "multi-Q" button on each person you want to quote, then click "post reply" and it will bring you to the posting screen.
 
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