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So, how does that compare to Trump claiming that doctors are stealing masks and PPEs? And of course the refused the proposed package. They were simply tax payer money going to big corporations. As soon workers added to the stimulus, they passed.
Oh bullshit... The president wanted all along money to go directly to the American people (citizens)...u really need to stop... I'm about done with u... The liberal add ons such as the money to the Kennedy center to keep it running, but shut down anyway and then they have 5 million to the DNC... Or the 350 million the left demanded for "refugees and migrants"... Or any of the other 1400 pages of politicized pork and pet projects they wanted to add to a crisis bill meant to help citizens... And their 3 vote downs to packages that were bipartisan developed in the Senate...So yeah... I'm done listening to your constant criticism. U claim to not be left, I know libertarian, right... But u certainly seem to have no problems jumping on the left bandwagon every time it suits your let's bash Trump mentality...
 

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So you believe that the POTUS himself approves FEMA requests for supplies from each state? You REALLY Believe this? You do know the vast majority of the actual FEMA people processing these requests are the same people who were working there when Obama was POTUS - right? You know that absent department heads - the ACTUAL people doing the work in the vast majority of Federal Government agencies do NOT change when a new POTUS administration comes in.

So what about Cuomo in NY? Newsom in CA? I guess you're saying that because they have repeatedly told the press that the Feds have been responsive to their needs / requests - they are only saying that to somehow appease the POTUS? You really believe this?



It's called a free market. Where do you think the Feds buy their supplies? Some magic supply fairy available only to the Feds? Look up GSA - then look up the GSA schedules for purchasing.



Again - you make this about Trump. I get it, you don't like him. You WANT This to be about him - it makes you feel like you're right.

So what about Trump's decision to close down flights from China - when the Dems called it a racist / xenophobic move? Were you for or against that?

You literally dislike him so much that he's become the boogie man for you - the evil thing responsible for all things bad. Grow up.
First off, I don't know Trump. Never met him. So liking or not liking has nothing to do with it. I very strongly disaprove of his actions. What he does violates my moral code. I have listened to Cuomo and Newsom, and they very truthfully report that the Feds are doing the best they can with what they have. But they also say that what the Feds have done is inadequate. Those governors are not paid to insult Trump, so they don't.

And the free market is the last place you want to shop when you are in a crises. The free market will leave a million bodies in the street and not bat an eye. The free market does not provide health care.

The states having to bid for these supplies is simply bad, really bad, policy.
 

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First off, I don't know Trump. Never met him. So liking or not liking has nothing to do with it. I very strongly disaprove of his actions. What he does violates my moral code. I have listened to Cuomo and Newsom, and they very truthfully report that the Feds are doing the best they can with what they have. But they also say that what the Feds have done is inadequate. Those governors are not paid to insult Trump, so they don't.

And the free market is the last place you want to shop when you are in a crises. The free market will leave a million bodies in the street and not bat an eye. The free market does not provide health care.

The states having to bid for these supplies is simply bad, really bad, policy.
So how about those thousands of ventilators Cuomo hid to make Trump look bad? Just proves you don't have to pay a dem to be an asshole. They're happy to do it all on their own. All it has to do is suit their agenda.
 

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Oh bullshit... The president wanted all along money to go directly to the people...u really need to stop... I'm about done with u... The liberal add one such as the money to the Kennedy center to keep it running, but shut down anyway and then they have 5 million to the DNC... Or the 350 million the left demanded for "refugees and migrants"... Or any of the other 1400 pages of politicized pork and pet projects they wanted to add to a crisis bill meant to help citizens... So yeah... I'm done listening to your constant criticism. U claim to not be left, I know libertarian, right... But u certainly seem to have no problems jumping on the left bandwagon every time it suits your let's bash Trump mentality...
Well if the president wanted all along money to go directly to the people, he could have presented it that way in a bill. Oh, I consider refugees and migrants people also.

And the house Democrats have passed over 400 bill this year designed to help citizens, so of course they propose more. You are correct to feel that the Democrats fought tooth and nail to provide more money to citizens. That is what they do. Republicans cut SNAP, Democrats fight to restore. Republicans want $600 dollars for the poor, Democrats want $2400. They compromise on $1200. Republicans wanted to add a couple of weeks of unemployment, Democrats demanded ongoing payments of salary. They compromised on $600 a week for 39 weeks. Trump said that he didn't like stock buybacks, Democrats said OK, but put it in writing. And on and on. That is why I support a two party system. I do not think that a democracy and/or free society can exist with a single party. Three or more is a problem also but superior to 1.
 

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Well if the president wanted all along money to go directly to the people, he could have presented it that way in a bill. Oh, I consider refugees and migrants people also.

And the house Democrats have passed over 400 bill this year designed to help citizens, so of course they propose more. You are correct to feel that the Democrats fought tooth and nail to provide more money to citizens. That is what they do. Republicans cut SNAP, Democrats fight to restore. Republicans want $600 dollars for the poor, Democrats want $2400. They compromise on $1200. Republicans wanted to add a couple of weeks of unemployment, Democrats demanded ongoing payments of salary. They compromised on $600 a week for 39 weeks. Trump said that he didn't like stock buybacks, Democrats said OK, but put it in writing. And on and on. That is why I support a two party system. I do not think that a democracy and/or free society can exist with a single party. Three or more is a problem also but superior to 1.
The President is not a legislator. He does not write bills. That is the job of the Senate and House Republicans to try and legislate the President's wishes and visions... And they did... Like I said the Senate drafted a bipartisan bill with over 20 Democrats help and pelosi didn't have it on her desk for a day, called it a non starter and added 1119 pages of bullshit to it.
The bills the house Dems have passed aren't designed to help people. They're designed to usher in a socialist society where those they claim they're trying to help are supported by those who work.. it keeps low income people dependant on the government tit...u should ask the blacks how well 50 years of voting Democrat on the left's promise to "lift them from poverty" worked out before Trump got elected. (Lowest minority unemployment in history under the Trump administration)... Ur really good at parroting leftist media talking points but really seem to have no idea how government actually works...
U asked somewhere else exactly what the federal government's job is in a crisis... Their job is to set the standards the states should follow... Be the final word on conflicts, ensure the states are doing their part to take care of their people by providing additional resources,
Aside of that "Only the federal government can regulate interstate and foreign commerce, declare war and set taxing, spending and other national policies. In addition to protection citizens against corporations and big business... The Treasury Department's duties, for example, include printing and regulating money. The president also serves as commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces"...
And like it or not the states are 50 sovereign individuals regardless of being thought of as one country, they all have their own Constitution, their own beliefs, their own laws...
I'm not even going to get into the comment about Republicans cutting snap benefits because it's obviously beyond your comprehension that the right might actually want those who can, to go back to work instead of being lazy welfare drains when they're capable of working...
 

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What about them?
Seriously?... U said " . I have listened to Cuomo and Newsom, and they very truthfully report that the Feds are doing the best they can with what they have. But they also say that what the Feds have done is inadequate. Those governors are not paid to insult Trump, so they don't"... So I suppose Cuomo just hid those ventilators to praise the president?
 

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And the free market is the last place you want to shop when you are in a crises. The free market will leave a million bodies in the street and not bat an eye. The free market does not provide health care.
This is an incredibly ignorant statement.
@BroncMom , don't waste your time.

Be silent! Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth! I have not passed through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a witless worm. - Gandalf
 

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Hmmm... what does this German scientist, along with 11 other expert scientists think, as they start to question and asses the extremity of actions needed in Germany and elsewhere on the Global scale? Read and/or listen to a leading scientist for yourself.

 

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So how about those thousands of ventilators Cuomo hid to make Trump look bad? Just proves you don't have to pay a dem to be an asshole. They're happy to do it all on their own. All it has to do is suit their agenda.
Well, I knew about them. Anyone who actually listened to what he said knew about them. He said quite clearly that there were enough ventilators for today, and probably through the weekend. What he claimed he needed were those they needed for next week, and next month. Many people don't wait until they actually need an item to order it. I have actually seen people order weeks, even months in advance of the actual requirement. I certainly hope all hospitals in the country are not waiting until they have used their last ventilator before ordering.
 

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So in the original bill it was clearly stated where the money was to go. The major bitch by the dems was they wanted a longer period instead of seeing how things went and then extending the bennies. ILLEGALS AIN'T CITIZENS!! I don't owe anybody one frickin penny of my hard earned money just because they were able to break the law and get into our country PERIOD! As far as I know the United States doesn't make that promise either. The way I understood the package when the Republicans were trying to get the dems to vote to even talk about the bill other than some longer benny times and the Billions the dems insisted be given away the package sounds pretty much like what I heard. And nothing like what Pelosi was trying to ransom the CITIZENS of the united states for.
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Actually the docs made that prediction based on models and the range is actually 100 to 240k with a chance for less if we all do our best to mitigate.


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So had to venture out of our area yesterday, My wife pre boxes her dads pills in two weekly binders and he’s was going to run out. He usually rides the public bus down to get them done but she forbid him from the corona shuttle. He lives in seaside we live in Tillamook about a 45-50 minute drive, all the rest stop we’re blocked off with K rails and tape, tourists still taking photos of themselves at all the viewpoints. But Cannon Beach Oregon isn’t f#€king around at all 3 entrances in both directions were these
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We stopped nowhere between as the car still had plenty of gas in it.
 

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Duval county issued a stay at home order, and within an hour the governor issued a 30 day executive stay at home order for the state of Florida starting Friday.

Let the games begin.
 

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Duval county issued a stay at home order, and within an hour the governor issued a 30 day executive stay at home order for the state of Florida starting Friday.

Let the games begin.
May the odds be ever in your favor ?
Pa was put under a state wide 30 day stay in today.
 

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Duval county issued a stay at home order, and within an hour the governor issued a 30 day executive stay at home order for the state of Florida starting Friday.

Let the games begin.
Friday?! By chance is that spring break for that area , normally?
 

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Cannon Beach closed down? It really is the Apocalypse.
Ha! But if the masses keep flocking like they did there the first Saturday of no school...... you’ll see them sign going up everywhere!
 

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It's going to get worse I can almost guarantee it. I have seen the large increase in Florida and Alabama plates here. All of the snowbirds are coming home and I doubt that they all made the 16-26 hour trip without food. I can also be quite sure that the first thing they will do is hit the grocery stores. A lot of the Urban people are also coming up from their hot spots since they are laid off. I get the want, but I don't think it's smart. Our population normally triples in the Summers and I'm not sure the businesses are up to the task.

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