[83bronco5.0]

I am in need of a truck for work. I had been looking at a diesel pick up but in Chicago they have a stupid law where you cant park "business" trucks on residential streets and I have no garage. In Illinois, pickups are classified as "B trucks" and fall into that category (plus my city sticker would be close to $175 a year). Since I will need this truck for hauling landscape materials, Im looking at a larger cargo van instead. I found a number of 93-02 diesel Ford vans in the $5-10k range in my area. What I want to know is are these vans as powerful as the pickups? I know there are a few differences in the vans vs. the trucks but I basically know nothing about diesel Fords. Do they have tuners available for the vans as well?

 

[JoeBob1901]

i've been looking for some E-series PSD's, and they really are a good price, cargo vans even cheaper. The vans have good power, but aren't quite AS powerful. IIRC, they had a bit of a difference in the turbos? Possibly downpipes...IIRC it's a bit more of a pain with the vans to chip because of restrictions in the downpipe, even more so than the truck. They'll stilll make good power stock tho.

 

[bigbroncojeff]

my turbo diesel duramax in my 07 3500 van is way slower than in any of my buddies trucks but it does anything i need it to and has plenty of passing power... dunno how the fords are

 

[Mrit]

The vans do not have a intercooler IIRC. Im not 100% sure, but I think thats why they feel slower. Gotta be de-tuned so the temps dont get too high. There are a couple other small things but I cant remember right now. Might wanna check out www.thedieselstop.com

 

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After reading this thread - I started looking on E-bay for these vans. A van may work just as well for me as a truck - and the price may be better.

 

[bigbroncojeff]

the van will cut down on theft by 100% and you can put shelving systems in... for my line of work it's the only way to go

and you can plaster a nice billboard on the side as well

 

[Dustin]

yes the 7.3 in the vans had no intercooler and smaller turbos.

the also had a differnt program in the pcm for a lower hp rating I believe.

oh and they suck balls to work on

 

[locopny]

yes the 7.3 in the vans had no intercooler and smaller turbos.

the also had a differnt program in the pcm for a lower hp rating I believe.

oh and they suck balls to work on

I think he knows what he is talking about....I heard he sucked balls before:goodfinge:doh0715:


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I had a van for a short time. It worked great if you don't need to haul smelly items (gas, chemicals, ETC). Almost as bad as using a BKO for the same thing, except that a BKO has windows that open to allow the smell to escape. Just something to think about that I didn't realize until after I owned it. Sold it less than 2years later. Great for security though.

 

[JoeBob1901]

After reading this thread - I started looking on E-bay for these vans. A van may work just as well for me as a truck - and the price may be better.

Wayyyy cheaper :thumbup

yes the 7.3 in the vans had no intercooler and smaller turbos.

the also had a differnt program in the pcm for a lower hp rating I believe.

oh and they suck balls to work on

Good information Dustin, they look like they'd suckkkk to work on :duh

 

[Cucamongan]

The vans do not have a intercooler IIRC. Im not 100% sure, but I think thats why they feel slower. Gotta be de-tuned so the temps dont get too high. There are a couple other small things but I cant remember right now. Might wanna check out www.thedieselstop.com

Dieselstop is good,
also try www.powerstrokenation.com

yes the 7.3 in the vans had no intercooler and smaller turbos.

the also had a differnt program in the pcm for a lower hp rating I believe.

oh and they suck balls to work on

I 2nd the PITA to work on. If there is anything is about diesel, I bet Dustin would know about it or heard of it. I'm sure he can be bribed :toothless

Now here is a random question: Why didn't Dodge ever make diesel vans?

 

[loarmistead]

You got a flat there :toothless

 

[Dustin]

the 6.0 van are even more of a c sucker to work on too....

 

[rightofway]

yes the 7.3 in the vans had no intercooler and smaller turbos.

oh and they suck balls to work on

the 6.0 van are even more of a c sucker to work on too....

seconded, and they're almost all i worked on back when i was ambulancemech, i saw maybe one F every two months

IMO the van chassis turns much better than the pickup too

 

[JoeBob1901]

Here's your van! :rockon

55,000 Starting bid

55,000 but no reserve, what a deal :histerica

 

[JoeBob1901]

I had sent the seller a question...

For 55,000, does this include any extras? Price seems high..might be an error worth correcting.

got this response just now

Read the description, it says listing comming soon. Do you honestly have that much time on your hands to write this silly email.

Haha...:rofl:

last time i checked...when you post something for sale, it's not a "work in progress", you try to post REAL price with REAL info...maybe that's just me :shrug

 

[rightofway]

Read the description, it says listing comming soon. Do you honestly have that much time on your hands to write this silly email.

send him a response saying "obviously i do have that much time on my hands, and for wasting my time with a listing that has no description i just wasted some more of yours"

he's obviously a dealer yet appears to have no clue how to sell a vehicle

 

[83bronco5.0]

Thanks for the opinions and help guys. Im going tonight to look at a couple. The one Ive been eyeing is a 2000 7.3 no window with 95k for 9,800. Does that seem a little low? The rest Ive been looking at with about the same mileage are going for $3-4k more and only a year or two newer.

 

[rightofway]

Thanks for the opinions and help guys. Im going tonight to look at a couple. The one Ive been eyeing is a 2000 7.3 no window with 95k for 9,800. Does that seem a little low? The rest Ive been looking at with about the same mileage are going for $3-4k more and only a year or two newer.

95k is great mileage if it's been taken care of
i'd peep it over real good if you think it's low, it may not have some options the more expensive ones do

 

[JayYoTTU]

6.0L suck ball sack compared to 7.3L. Probably why Ford already has new diesels. Just changing the oil on the 6.0s is far more expensive. They have canister oil filters and blah... blah... get a 7.3L, if possible. Another big thing I noticed from working at Ford here in Lubbock is the glow plugs go out regularly on 6.0L. I've done work on dozens (I'm a quick tech, so I don't do real "technical" work, but whatever) of 7.3L from farmers around here and they say the engines last forever and we've had a couple with 300K+ on the tickers. From what I've been reading on this thread (and if I comprendo it correctly) it sounds like all you would need is a "new" PCM and turbo from an F-Series and you'd be ready to rock.

 

[rightofway]

it sounds like all you would need is a "new" PCM and turbo from an F-Series and you'd be ready to rock.

and somehow wedge an intercooler in there