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I did a bit of reading on the teraflex shackles and have nixed that idea, quick. They arent stable on hillsides. Especially with fullsize rigs.
 

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There is another flex aid - I forget what they are called but they are a conical type bushing that’s allows the spring to rotate laterally in the shackle. FYI


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v-codes are nice. I run those on my excursion. Though I was not concerned about flex. The excursion rides very close to my 92 Bronco with Procomp springs front and rear.
Also if you rebuild the C6 you can put in the E4OD gearset for 1 & 2, helps a bit. This is what is usually called a wide ratio c6.

I know you have the axles already, but If was mine I would look at the radius arm and coil sprung 05+ superduty front ends.
 
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Same on 05+ axles. Get the oem frame mounts and gearbox too.

Obs d60s are worth so much value for a direct bolt in swap on aero f250 powerstrokes. More of a value and factory hardware benefit than a build axle.
 

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It's of value to me for bolting under a 88 f250... the simpler the better. Which is why I wanted to use 90s f350 lift springs. Simple bolt on swap.

And I cant stand the gigantic radius arms on the 05+ axles. Which means fabricating something there. And every one I see in the JY has something missing already. Quite annoying.

I have a 4bolt steering gear off a newer E350 to put on.

I thought the c6 gears were the ones that swapped into the e4od. I'll check into that.
 

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No you swap the e4od gears into the C6 because the C6 is beef, but the 1st gear is crap. Or, use the stainless planetaries out of a SD 4R100 if you plan on major HP down the road.

I would recommend staying away from OBS lift springs. Been there, done that, it sucks. Do a shackle reversal with a set of stock springs. You can buy a kit that will work with either OBS or SD springs, so I'd hit the yards, see what you can find and go from there.

Do not use the TTB leafs! It will ride horrible, they are wayyyy to high a spring rate.
 

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The change in the gearing is noticable too. I have a broader wide ratio C6 in my 78 now, and even with the old engine the change was very noticable. Was very close, i thought, from say 4.56 vs 4.10 in 1st and 2nd
 
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My thoughts for covering the light holes was I figured finding new lenses would be impossible.
I just caught this part. There's a guy on eBay who is making/selling clear lenses for the visors. I have a set, they're pretty nice. Could always go that route.
 

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No you swap the e4od gears into the C6 because the C6 is beef, but the 1st gear is crap. Or, use the stainless planetaries out of a SD 4R100 if you plan on major HP down the road.

I would recommend staying away from OBS lift springs. Been there, done that, it sucks. Do a shackle reversal with a set of stock springs. You can buy a kit that will work with either OBS or SD springs, so I'd hit the yards, see what you can find and go from there.

Do not use the TTB leafs! It will ride horrible, they are wayyyy to high a spring rate.
Pro comp has springs for SDs that are like 140 each, with 4" of lift. Or search the yards for Vcodes and do a shackle flip. Plenty of SDs and a few excursions. That's economical enough either way. I'm leaning towards making my own hangers for the SD springs. The available setups seem awfully expensive for what they are.

Oh you mean dont use the reverse arched springs that are on the f250 right now? Lol I wouldn't dream of it. They are only good for making knives!

I looked up the e4od ratio, and that would move my crawl ratio from 52 to 58. Not bad, but not sure if its worth it, unless I end up completely rebuilding it. Probably will though.

Realized I hadnt posted a pic of the truck! The bed is decent, but the rockers and such are pretty toasty. And no, the giant cow pusher isnt staying on it! It looks like a 3rd grader welded it.

 

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I like the cow pusher and headache rack. I'm sure the bumper looks good from far but is far from good. There's also a website that sells OE SD leaf springs. Can't remember it but it's posted on the SD forums when you search on the leaf swap.
 

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Might be general spring out of KC. They sell all sorts of stock springs, even for our broncos. They are slightly more that what JBG sells.

The headache rack is gonna get chopped down a bit and put on my 96 f350. Yeah, the cow pusher is only good for that. The ends of it are just rubber conveyor belt... Its ugly as hell up close haha.
 

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Getting back into this a bit. Got a couple things to button up on the bronco first though.

So i acquired some 37" BFG MTs in a trade so thats what ill be using. They are for 17s, which leaves me with two choices. My old 08 Superduty wheels which have like 6" of backspace, and using adapters, or buying some new cheapies. Ive pretty well decided on some new wagon wheels. Then ill be welding on a TMI bead lock conversion.

Gonna likely go with the PMF RSK for the front for U-code superduty leafs. The rear leafs, im not so sure on. I think J40 deavers might be the best all around option for performance and cost. Superduty leaves and conversion brackets are nearly what the deavers cost.

Gears are gonna be 5.38:1. As much as I would love the 7.33:1, the pinions are just sooo small. Rear will be an 88 sterling 10.25, converted to long spline, with a '11+ ford E-Locker. Front is a 96 D60. Not sure what locker ill run in it. Whatever I can find cheapest.

I have a flatbed on hold for it, from a 95 f150. It will be dovetailed and reworked a bit, with a roll bar and kicker tubes.

Engine and trans...
Im still on the fence here too. Currently its a 351w, that ran when I bought the truck a few years ago. Its set up for a ZF5, which i have a few of. I am picking up a 240/300 block in a couple weeks. Thats another option. I have a decent C6, with a broken case. The far fetched option is the 4.6DOHC from my Mach1 mated to a ZF6. Thats just a pipe dream as it is cost prohibitive. If the 351 is okay still, Ill probably just throw a ZF5 behind it and call it a day. Seems the easiest and cheapest route.

Ill be doing a Jed's Machine doubler kit with a ford NP205 and a dodge NP203 range box I have.

Crawl ratio for the C6 would be 52:1. ZF5 would be 123:1.

My end goal is something like this. It will be Mack Green (someone please find me a Mack Bulldog hood ornament! Lol) Flatbed, bumper, wheels, etc will be black.
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There is an 05+ 4x4 superduty that just came into the JY. Going tomorrow to hopefully pull both axles. That would be nice as i wouldnt have to buy new wheels, I would get the beefier axles, and not have to fiddle with the short pinion sterling 10.25.
 

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No such luck!
 

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Come here theres a SD leaf with your name on it.
Honestly, I didnt feel like moving a 750lb axle around after 2" of rain by myself. The truck hit something hard so i said F' it. They arent too rare here if you stay on top of the inventory.

Im only running 37s on this so the OBS 60 should hold just fine. Gotta swap over to hydro boost and replace the starter on the bronco before i even get this project started so we will see what happens. If I go SD, itll be 05 and up.
 
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Headed down to Erie after work to pick up the flatbed for this project. Trading a 4.10 D50 thirdmember and stub shaft with some cash for it. About a 5 hour round trip.

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Got the flatbed loaded! 3 skinny country boys, a floor jack, a ratchet strap, and careful maneuvering of the trailer got it moved off the f150 and onto the trailer. Im sure it was over 1000 lbs.
 
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