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Seeking Tanelorn
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From today, feel free to download another 25 million songs - legally

After a decade fighting to stop illegal file-sharing, the music industry will give fans today what they have always wanted: an unlimited supply of free and legal songs.

With CD sales in free fall and legal downloads yet to fill the gap, the music industry has reluctantly embraced the file-sharing technology that threatened to destroy it. Qtrax, a digital service announced today, promises a catalogue of more than 25 million songs that users can download to keep, free and with no limit on the number of tracks.

The service has been endorsed by the very same record companies - including EMI, Universal Music and Warner Music – that have chased file-sharers through the courts in a doomed attempt to prevent piracy. The gamble is that fans will put up with a limited amount of advertising around the Qtrax website’s jukebox in return for authorised use of almost every song available.

The service will use the “peer-to-peer” network, which contains not just hit songs but rarities and live tracks from the world’s leading artists.
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Nor is a lack of compatibility with the iPod player expected to put fans off. Apple is unlikely to allow tracks downloaded from its rival to be compatible with iPods, but, while the iPod is the most popular music player, it has not succeeded in dominating the market: sales of the iPod account for 50 million out of 130 million total digital player sales. Qtrax has also spoken of an “iPod solution”, to be announced in April.

Qtrax files contain Digital Rights Management software, allowing the company to see how many times a song has been downloaded and played. Artists, record companies and publishers will be paid in proportion to the popularity of their music, while also taking a cut of advertising revenues.

The Qtrax team, which spent five years working on the system, promised a “game-changing” intervention in the declining recorded music market when the service was presented at the Midem music industry convention in Cannes.

The singer James Blunt gave Qtrax a cautious welcome. “I’m amazed that we now accept that people steal music,” he said. “I was taught not to steal sweets from a sweet shop. But I want to learn how this service works, given the condition the music industry is in.”

Qtrax, a subsidiary of Brilliant Technologies Corporation, has raised $30 million (£15 million) to set up the service, which is available in the US and Europe from today. Allan Klepfisz, president of Qtrax, said: “Customers now expect music to be free but they do not want to use illegal sites. We believe this . . . has the support of the music industry and allows artists to get paid.”

Ford, McDonald’s and Microsoft are among the advertisers signed up to support what is thought to be the world’s largest legal music store. The service says that adverts will be nonintrusive and will not appear each time a song is played. As with iTunes, customers will have to download Qtrax software. They will own the songs permanently but will be encouraged to “dock” their player with the store every 30 days so it can gather information on which songs have been played.

Jean-Bernard Levy, chief executive of Vivendi Universal, said the crisis in the music industry had been overstated despite EMI’s radical cost-cutting. He said: “Look at Universal – we have double-digit profit margins. But we would like strong competition from the other major record companies to help the industry grow.” Universal has poached the Rolling Stones from EMI and Mr Levy said that others could follow as thousands of staff and artists are made redundant.

On the appearance of Qtrax, Mr Levy gave warning that the lack of compatibility between competing digital music players was as big a problem as file-sharing. And Paul McGuinness, the manager of U2, said that the sound quality of MP3 downloads was becoming an issue for bands and fans. “There is a growing consumer revolt against online audio quality,” he said.
 

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Kitteh Commandaar!
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Hmmm...wonder how long that will last?

At least it will be "legal" for now, wonder when the government will step in?
 

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Hmmm...wonder how long that will last?

At least it will be "legal" for now, wonder when the government will step in?
that was my thought. The first thing i thought when i got done reading it was "This won't last long"

How is the government going to get their money?
 

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Seeking Tanelorn
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Looks like it's not a done deal yet...

Labels back away from Qtrax

THREE of the "big four" record labels have reportedly denied signing any deals with free music download service Qtrax.

Qtrax had promised up to 30 million free and legal music tracks for download after claiming it had signed landmark deals with the four major record labels Sony BMG, Warner Music, EMI and Universal.

The company's promise sounded too good to be true – an advertising-funded service that had no hidden software, limited copy-protection that let you listen to tracks on any computer or mp3 player, and a massive library of songs from the major labels.

Now Warner Music has issued a statement denying that it authorised any of its content for use on the Qtrax network.

EMI and Universal also denied a licensing deal with Qtrax despite being in discussions with the company. Sony could not be reached for comment.

Qtrax president Allan Klepfisz told AP that Warner was expected to agree to terms "shortly". He claimed that all other parties had agreed to the terms but some deals were yet to be formally signed.

Qtrax is a peer-to-peer (P2P) network that originally launched in 2002 following the collapse of Napster. It shut down a few months later to avoid legal action.

P2P users can share files, or portions of a file, directly with other users. The decentralised network structure makes it popular amongst illegal file-sharers due to its speed, efficiency and relative anonymity.

Legal music tracks are often crippled by digital rights management (DRM), a form of encoding intended to restrict how the file is used.

Qtrax offered to combine legal P2P networking with a more flexible form of DRM.

The Qtrax client was expected to launch at 12am EST (4pm AEST) today but the download appears to have been delayed.

It is not clear what content will be made available on the network.
 

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okay. that sounds about normal.

DRM, filesharing and other type things are a HUGE debate right now. It's why i get so antsy about people posting warez, keygenz and other things on this site. They pull the trigger and shut down the site before they even ask any questions.
 

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okay. that sounds about normal.

DRM, filesharing and other type things are a HUGE debate right now. It's why i get so antsy about people posting warez, keygenz and other things on this site. They pull the trigger and shut down the site before they even ask any questions.
Ok, I understand your concern. I'm just passing on MSM news reports. If people want to find the site, they can do that themselves. (Not that it was hard to find. ;))
 

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Ok, I understand your concern. I'm just passing on MSM news reports. If people want to find the site, they can do that themselves. (Not that it was hard to find. ;))
no no no.

It's when anything specifically related some type of hax they actually post links to on the site.

Not news articles. I meant the actual links to downloads for hax themselves.
 

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Seeking Tanelorn
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no no no.

It's when anything specifically related some type of hax they actually post links to on the site.

Not news articles. I meant the actual links to downloads for hax themselves.
You meant we can't be advocating and/or facilitating illegal stuff here, right?
 

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Yeah, Rob doesn't like it when I post links to places that tend to harbor people with eye patches, parrots, ships, tattoos, and peg legs. :D
 

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:rofl: :thumbup
 

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"Artists, record companies and publishers will be paid in proportion to the popularity of their music, while also taking a cut of advertising revenues."

paid by who exactly? besides the advertising, if the site and music are free, how are the record companies and artists going to make money? i'm not clear on this.
 

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The singer James Blunt gave Qtrax a cautious welcome. “I’m amazed that we now accept that people steal music,” he said. “I was taught not to steal sweets from a sweet shop. But I want to learn how this service works, given the condition the music industry is in.”
I think this is a funny comment. It really seems to me the music industry is having a hard time, yea right, music artists make more than enough money already, they need to quit complaining. if the artists dont feel they make enough, the should do some work, if you can call it that, and go on tour. if they cant make money on a tour, then its time to put the music down as a carrer. All file sharing does is make the music more widespread, giving it a more diverse audiunce, and that is what music is all about, people being able to enjoy it, and artists playing it for everyones enjoyment.

Paul
 

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[....] if the artists dont feel they make enough, the should do some work, if you can call it that, and go on tour. [....]
Paul, I say this with all due respect....

Bite me. :smilie_slap

While I admit there are a lot of no-talent hacks making a ton of money, you have no clue how much work it is to really develop and maintain musical talent to the point that you are truly proficient at your art.

That said, I agree that touring should (and will) be the main business of entertainment musicians (studio musicians are a different subject).
 

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...and most musicians don't make the kind of money that the superstars do.
 

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i agree with you, my rant was just aimed at the superstars, its just pisses me off when i come home from job, turn on the t.v. and all i hear about is britney spears, hannah montana or justin timberlake.
they make more in a day than i do in a year it seems. I played bass is a jazz band, we didnt make much, but we did it cause we liked to play. I know touring isnt easy, but i just found it funny that james blunt was complaining about things.
I personally love music, i still buy cd's, go to concerts, its just frustrating when someone make millions and complains it isnt enough

Paul
 

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i agree with you, my rant was just aimed at the superstars, its just pisses me off when i come home from job, turn on the t.v. and all i hear about is britney spears, hannah montana or justin timberlake.
they make more in a day than i do in a year it seems. I played bass is a jazz band, we didnt make much, but we did it cause we liked to play. I know touring isnt easy, but i just found it funny that james blunt was complaining about things.
I personally love music, i still buy cd's, go to concerts, its just frustrating when someone make millions and complains it isnt enough

Paul
think i read that brittany makes 20k a day or something like that?
 
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