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Is this the end connector where a little plug is supposed to be? The one we disconnect when we want the computer to register base timing as we set base timing? If so is there a name and part number? Does the plug just connect both wires together? If this is disconnected, what ill effects could it have? Computer can't advance the timing? I'd like to order one. Picture attached.

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I believe so. Its called the SPOUT connector. Without it, the engine reverts to and stays at base timing.

Dont order one, shoot me your mailing info in a private conversation and ill mail one to ya. Ive got a few extras
 

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I have a few. Send me your address. One will be on its way tomorrow.

Edit I see Big Blue got your back like the brotherhood we are. Well...I've got a few too. Contact me if you need it.
 

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That's not the spout connector. They look similar but the spout will be near the ignition module on the fender. That connector should be for the cruise control cancel switch, which should be right behind your fingers in the picture. I see what looks like the cruise module plug laying in the background, so if you don't have the switch someone may have swapped a non cruise master cylinder on and removed the module.
 

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Ummmm,
I could use one of those spout connectors.
currently using a jumper setup and well you know...
 

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I see what looks like the cruise module plug laying in the background, so if you don't have the switch someone may have swapped a non cruise master cylinder on and removed the module.
The steering wheel of my car doesn't have controls for Cruise Control. It makes sense that with or without Cruise would use the same harness for manufacturing engineering.
 

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That's not the spout connector. They look similar but the spout will be near the ignition module on the fender. That connector should be for the cruise control cancel switch, which should be right behind your fingers in the picture. I see what looks like the cruise module plug laying in the background, so if you don't have the switch someone may have swapped a non cruise master cylinder on and removed the module.
Sure as hell looks like the SPOUT to me. And in the same spot ive seen on 94+
 

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defiantly not SPOUT. SPOUT is always on a really short pigtail at the ICM and would not be long enough to hold like that



i agree with pfun that its brake pressure switch for cruise controll deactivation on master cylinder. you can see the connector for the cruise control unit in his pic. the wires should be LightGreen/Red and Black/Yellow

only other thing i can think of is its the Power Steering Pressure Switch but 94 should no longer use them. they were on 93 and earlier 5.0. the wires for it would be Gray/Red and Yellow/LightGreen

besires this pic from the this thread is pretty much identical to OPs pic

 

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That's not the spout connector. They look similar but the spout will be near the ignition module on the fender. That connector should be for the cruise control cancel switch, which should be right behind your fingers in the picture. I see what looks like the cruise module plug laying in the background, so if you don't have the switch someone may have swapped a non cruise master cylinder on and removed the module.
Sure as hell looks like the SPOUT to me. And in the same spot ive seen on 94+
defiantly not SPOUT. SPOUT is always on a really short pigtail at the ICM and would not be long enough to hold like that



i agree with pfun that its brake pressure switch for cruise controll deactivation on master cylinder. you can see the connector for the cruise control unit in his pic. the wires should be LightGreen/Red and Black/Yellow

only other thing i can think of is its the Power Steering Pressure Switch but 94 should no longer use them. they were on 93 and earlier 5.0. the wires for it would be Gray/Red and Yellow/LightGreen

besires this pic from the this thread is pretty much identical to OPs pic

Anyone have any Crow? Guess i should eat some!

Also judging by the OP pic, its been disconnected for quite a while.
 
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@BigBlue 94 I got the spout connector in the mail, thanks!
For those who want to know what it looks like here is a picture, and the back is just flat. Ihaven't seen where it hooks up yet but somebody was saying it's tucked away inside the harness somewhere. I now have a timing light so I'll be locating it soon when I check the timing to make sure it hasn't been messed with. Gonna set it back to 10 degrees if so, and then 12.5 once I get a coil to complete the sixlitre tunup. Already put on wires and plugs, oh, need a cap and rotor too.
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@BigBlue 94 I got the spout connector in the mail, thanks!
For those who want to know what it looks like here is a picture, and the back is just flat. Ihaven't seen where it hooks up yet but somebody was saying it's tucked away inside the harness somewhere. I now have a timing light so I'll be locating it soon when I check the timing to make sure it hasn't been messed with. Gonna set it back to 10 degrees if so, and then 12.5 once I get a coil to complete the sixlitre tunup. Already put on wires and plugs, oh, need a cap and rotor too.
if you read our later comments, we determined that was not the SPOUT, it was for cruise control. unless you were missing the SPOUT also
 

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if you read our later comments, we determined that was not the SPOUT, it was for cruise control. unless you were missing the SPOUT also
I know. And I still don't know where the SPOUT is, hint-hint. I'm glad I have a spare spout though now and I'm sure I still have the original one hiding in the harness somewhere.
 

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I know. And I still don't know where the SPOUT is, hint-hint. I'm glad I have a spare spout though now and I'm sure I still have the original one hiding in the harness somewhere.
this is the driver side corner where the fender and firewall are. the ICM is on the fender and the SPOUT is like 2 inches away. that is the cruise control above it so you wont have that

 

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this is the driver side corner where the fender and firewall are. the ICM is on the fender and the SPOUT is like 2 inches away. that is the cruise control above it so you wont have that
I just realized something... That disconnected wire coming out of the ICM that I crimped together, this might be someone that removed the spout socket! Going to check it out right now... I was getting ready to solder it haha.
 

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Ok... This is it right? It was ripped out shamelessly? It is the red wire, there is only one red wire, the socket is missing.
If so I have no words for this.
When I found this cut wire and crimped it together it made a ticking noise (that I had reported as a todo in my progress thread).
On the positive side I believe this is the last unexplained thing I have on this truck.
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@Snow Bruiser does your truck have a check engine light (assuming light works). have u ever pulled codes? verify that the timing advance is working (rev engine some while using timing light should see it change)

i suspect that previous owner replaced your ICM with the wrong one. it gives a code that sounds like an issue with the SPOUT. he probably couldn't figure it out and crimped it together thinking it was bad connector. and looks like might even replaced the wire going from the ICM connector to the SPOUT.

reason i say this is because you have a grey ICM. technically should have a black ICM being a 94. its a VERY common issue for them to be replaced with the wrong grey ones. and unless you do research on it, you will never figuer out the issue. this is how i got my 96 for a good price.

the only thing im not sure of is thats a grey Motorcraft. so it MIGHT be original and actually designed for the grey ICM, not the black.

 
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