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I'm from kc, but just moved to Seattle. I found a killer deal on Craigslist and got a 96 bronco I want to do a 4bt swap into....but I need a shop to do it. I've already found a shop that I'm interested in, but I'm really looking for other options in kc. It's actually cheaper to ship the car back from Seattle, do the swap, and ship it back here. Any recommendations are appreciated!

I'm looking at having the restomod store in Independence, mo to do it right now.
 

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I could see if they guy who did mine would be open to another. Yours is a bit more complicated w/ the computer and such so he may not want to tackle it. Outside of that I don't have much experience w/ any of the shops who would be capable of tackling such a task. If you found someone to do the wiring separately I could see him being interested.
 

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I'm in the middle of my own 4bt swap and have been talking a ton with Power Driven Diesel in Cedar City, Utah. I know you mentioned you are looking for places in KC, but if you were going to ship it around to have it done anyway, PDD works on these a ton and they are incredibly knowledgeable and helpful in my own swap. They might be worth a call. Also, Diesel Conversion Specialists which I think is in Montana? They do this swap specifically on F150's and Broncos, and they're doing a Bronco as we speak. They might be able to help you out, too.
 

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I'm in the middle of my own 4bt swap and have been talking a ton with Power Driven Diesel in Cedar City, Utah. I know you mentioned you are looking for places in KC, but if you were going to ship it around to have it done anyway, PDD works on these a ton and they are incredibly knowledgeable and helpful in my own swap. They might be worth a call. Also, Diesel Conversion Specialists which I think is in Montana? They do this swap specifically on F150's and Broncos, and they're doing a Bronco as we speak. They might be able to help you out, too.
Ironically I was just one the phone with diesel conversion specialists. The main reason I'm looking to ship back to kc is the hourly labor rate. Most places in Seattle are $120-150/hour. In kc it is sometimes half of that. Dcs said labor was like $10k and that seems surprisingly high for a kit that is supposed to be straight bolt in. I know things like ac, fuel lines, gauges, etc. Take a little bit of time but I'm not seeing the 80- 100 hours people are quoting.

If my back permitted I'd pull the 351 myself. But I can't.
 

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Ah yeah, that makes sense. I'm not sure what PDD will ask. I know they are kind of in the middle of nowhere, so maybe their rates are better? But good luck! I'll be watching out for the build
 

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I paid 30/hr for my axle swap and 45 for my engine. The labor and materials came out to just under 3,500 and that included switching from auto to manual and adapting the np205 to the new trans he bought a radiator, fab'd up brackets to mount everything, and replaced the fluids for every part of the driveline. The axle swap was 2,700 for labor and materials(I provided the major components again) but he was out the piping, all the bots, etc.
 

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Bring it down here and I’ll “help “ you yard it out and drop it in if it’s really a bolt in...there’s a hotel 2 blocks from the shop I rent. I can do light fab work if needed buuuut you’ll have to get someone else to wire it all in and get it dialed in.

edit: my shop floor is gravel but we get by.
 

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Ironically I was just one the phone with diesel conversion specialists. The main reason I'm looking to ship back to kc is the hourly labor rate. Most places in Seattle are $120-150/hour. In kc it is sometimes half of that. Dcs said labor was like $10k and that seems surprisingly high for a kit that is supposed to be straight bolt in. I know things like ac, fuel lines, gauges, etc. Take a little bit of time but I'm not seeing the 80- 100 hours people are quoting.

If my back permitted I'd pull the 351 myself. But I can't.
We Charge 80 an hour flat rate, swaps require fabrication and our fab rates are 160 an hour. so 120-150 is what you will see here in the PNW. dealers charge 120+ here flate rate, so keep that in mind. The shop I was looking into for you Charges 5,000 if you supply the motor, transmission and transfer case. they supply drive lines, wiring, hoses, radiator, and inner cooler if needed.
 

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We Charge 80 an hour flat rate, swaps require fabrication and our fab rates are 160 an hour. so 120-150 is what you will see here in the PNW. dealers charge 120+ here flate rate, so keep that in mind. The shop I was looking into for you Charges 5,000 if you supply the motor, transmission and transfer case. they supply drive lines, wiring, hoses, radiator, and inner cooler if needed.
Can you pm me the info? I can stomach 5000 for labor only.
 

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My engine machinist in Topeka (hour west of KC) was $80 an hour. But he only does engines, not swaps. If you contact LSXkiller in KC, they might be able to point you in the right direction.
 
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