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· LS Swap Everything!
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Yeah, so... my tranny's ****ed :banghead and I'm praying that the guy my buddy knows will either A: give me his old transmission, or B: sell it to me very cheaply. The other option, is of course to rebuild (I did some searching a while back and came up with a link from a thread that's supposedly the most comprehensive rebuild of the E4OD yet so I think I could rebuild it, although... I've never rebuilt a transmission before) Other than that, I'm faced with a bunch of crap from this as the Bronco's my only mode of transportation. Any insight from anybody?
 

· Satyr of the Midwest
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Other than that, I'm faced with a bunch of crap from this as the Bronco's my only mode of transportation. Any insight from anybody?
Yup: numero uno priority should be finding another mode of transportation, if only temporary.

Regarding the Bronco, keep your eyes open on the For Sale forum for a used E4OD. There was one for sale by AHeavyBronc for a good price. He's up in Ravenna, OH, IIRC, so it'd be a hike, but well worth it IMHO.
 

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hey that was my thread you read, and yes its is as easy as it says i just finished the first rebuild yesturday, put it in today and holly s**t the bronco moved for the first time since i got it, it runs and drives nice, next is the spare trans which i will be doin the shift kit, and all the big money upgrades.......

lets put it this way im only 19 and i rebuilt an E4OD on my first shot and it came out perfect
 

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How many feet on that trans so far?........
:scratchhe feet? oh ok i havnt done any long huals yet but i have taken it like maybe 50 miles or so, and it suprises me how well its doin i was expecting to pull it out and have to redo something but so far all is good
 

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:scratchhe feet? oh ok i havnt done any long huals yet but i have taken it like maybe 50 miles or so, and it suprises me how well its doin i was expecting to pull it out and have to redo something but so far all is good

If you end up pulling a rabbit out of the hat on this one I'll be most impressed. 'Cuz when I was your age my only auto skills entailed how to get girl X into the car with me long enough to get her up to Make-out Point................:smokin:
 

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If you end up pulling a rabbit out of the hat on this one I'll be most impressed. 'Cuz when I was your age my only auto skills entailed how to get girl X into the car with me long enough to get her up to Make-out Point................:smokin:
:histerica thats great im very skilled in automotive service and repair, ive been to a two year auto tech school and graduated top of my class, dad brought me up right been under vehicles since about 10yrs old, just recently got into rebuildin transmissions, anyone can rebuild a trans as long as you got a camera, a clean flat work area, and lots of time and research, but theres always that one trans rebuild where youve done everythin right and still ends up failin

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Today's Progress

I pulled the pan off to take a look at the carnage inside the pan, I was relieved not to find any large pieces of metal, although I've been keeping a magnet on both the oil pan & the tranny pan for quite a while, I've never pulled the tranny pan off in the time I've owned the truck (I now see that if I'd changed fluid & filter when I bought her I wouldn't have had this problem...) Although, someone in the past placed a small magnet inside the transmission pan and I couldn't be happier that they did! Here's what I found.





As you can see the fluid's practically black, dark dark red for the most part. And the magnet inside the pan has collected a gelatin of metal particles accumulated with ATF that forms a rather thick/granular substance.

I guess I really roasted the clutches here...
 

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Well I have rebuilt many transmissions, and let me tell you as long as you have a good core, and all the rebuilding parts, everything will turn out good.
Unless you get drunk, turn over the one way sprag and install it backwords due to said drunkiness. I did this to my E4OD. It worked great untill it shifted to 2nd gear..then it was like someone put it in park :doh0715:
 

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Okay, I have no experience with any transmission aside from changing clutches in manuals... It's a whole new game to me. A friend suggested that I pull the torque converter & completely flush all the fluid out, change the filter and slap 'er back in. Will this work?? Or do I have to rebuild/replace the internals of my trans?
 

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Okay, I have no experience with any transmission aside from changing clutches in manuals... It's a whole new game to me. A friend suggested that I pull the torque converter & completely flush all the fluid out, change the filter and slap 'er back in. Will this work?? Or do I have to rebuild/replace the internals of my trans?
that should work you didnt have any major metal in your pan so try it and if it dont help search for keywords "ultimate E4OD" and youll see my thread, the link will walk you through the whole rebuild step by step,
 

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I would hold off on that. Replacing the torque converter won't do any good if you've got something like a bad solenoid or wiring that's shorted or open. You need to find out exactly WHAT failed and WHY.

What does the transmission do or not do? Have you pulled codes yet?
 

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I haven't pulled codes, nor do I own a code reader. The transmission ran fine in 1st & Reverse. But when it came to 2nd, or Drive it would hesitate and would not accelerate properly. It would go above 3K rpm then it felt like the rear end would jerk out from under you and then the truck would start accelerating normally again. The rpm scale would go back & fourth between 2k & 3k depending on where my foot was trying to keep it. My first instinct was that the T/C was going out (as my buddy's camaro had a similar problem, and the stall/torque converter had failed. I see now... as I started driving it, moving from 1st, to 2nd, then to 3rd, then activating O/D, that 1st was slipping as well, and I knew it could not be the torque converter. I would love to be able to pull codes and understand what they mean and how to fix all them (I'm sure there are lots of codes being thrown...) But I haven't been able to afford the little diagnostics tool.
 

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The high revv and jerky shift sure sounds like a limp mode... Slipping ain't no good tho, when tis in limp mode the trans ramps up the line pressure so if anything slipping should be reduced cause of the higher gripping force applied on the clutches.
 
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