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My Saginaw Came Today!

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Soooo exited!... The Saginaw @BigBlue 94 has been building for me came today! I swear he just mailed it like 2 days ago 😮
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Omg it's Soooo beautiful, especially with the braided lines... And how nicely he painted it all... And he made installation practically idiot proof for me 😁
But holy heavy Batman... Thing weighs a ton 😮
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Aaand as an added bonus... Seed Swap ❤ ...
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Can't wait to get working on all this and get my girl back on the road 😁
Thanks bunches Blue 💙 you totally rock...
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Glad you are excited and pleased!

Total shipping weight was 18 pounds. If you look at the front of the pump, behind the pulley, you will see the main body is cast iron vs the smooth sheet metal of the reservoir. That cast iron center section is basically as thick as the reservoir itself. Its a beefy pump for sure.

As cheap as a rebuild kit is and only taking an hour for a first timer, ill never swap a junkyard unit in without a rebuild, again...

As for the belts... Adjust the saginaw so it is in the middle of its tension adjustment. Try your old PS belt first. Do you have AC running off that belt too? If that belt doesnt work, carefully cut it. Wrap it around all the pulleys needed, and see how short or long it is. Use tape to keep it on the pulleys if needed. If its short, measure the length of your cut belt and add the difference. If your belt is long, cut it so it fits and measure that. Take the cut belt and your measurements to the auto parts store and ask for a belt in the length you need. Its also helpful to get the next size up and down. When testing a belt, do NOT run the engine until you are sure you will be keeping that belt. Installing it but not running it will allow you to return it if its wrong.

Belt brands:
I have used Gates for years but im also running the HD green belts from Napa. Goodyear is good too.
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This was the first time you rebuilt one?
No, second time. The rear stud on my new one broke due to a backwards bracket, and i swapped one from a JY in without rebuilding it and it failed fast. Thus prompting me to rebuild it. The only "hard" part is a bearing sleeve in the snout that has to be pressed out.
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At least I have the Redhead and Saginaw in the shed waiting. I just need to get those pretty hoses you have.
PTFE AN lines and fittings from summit. They aint cheap, even for house brand stuff. I have them on my setup too, with hydroboost, a filter, and a cooler. Though mine dont have the slick black hose ends, they as re just silver.

To convert, the steering box needs a 5/8-18 to AN adapter and another one that is 1/2-20. The Saginaw needs a special 16mm x 1.5 fitting. Keyser part number 100-4343.

The PTFE lines are much easier to assemble than rubber based AN lines. I only poked my fingers like 5 times with these lol. If using the factory cooling loop, you have to use hard tube adapters.

And a word of advice, the saginaw return nipple is NOT 3/8... Its like .390" vs .375 and the tube adapter will not fit without some sanding on the nipple.
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I dunno if it'll help at all since our rigs are different years but I can post a pic of the invoices from summit so you have a parts list for those pretty hoses and ends.. @BigBlue 94 would they be the same lines for mine and his?
Yep. Same exact parts. The pump itself is the exact same unit, just with a serp pulley and different bracket.
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:O Where can I get one of these? My power steering pump needed replacing before I bought the truck, I'm pretty sure it was put on with a hammer
For an 84 bronco with v-belts, you need to find a 75-84 econoline (75-87 for 351w and 460, 75-86 for 300 I6) in the junkyard. Pull the brackets and pump out as an assembly. Rebuild kits are 15 bucks, but you need a pulley removal/install tool. A standard high pressure hose for an econoline of said years is all you need to complete the install. That hose is identical for 302, 351, and 460. Then fill it with ATF and bleed the air out.
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LOL just bleed the air out he says???
Yup. Ive never had an issue doing it, and my system has hydroboost, an FL820s sized filter, and a '96 C6 transmission cooler. Leave the cap off, turn lock to lock a few times, refill the reservoir, and repeat.
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No such luck anywhere near me, might just have to stick with an oem replacement for the time being :( I imagine it'll be fine until I can get ahold of that upgrade
The v-belt saginaws are getting tough to find because most of those vans have been scrapped already. I find maybe one for every 10 serpentine versions.

What engine do you have?
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How about this?

That is only for serpentine belt setups. His 84 needs a v-belt setup which is completely different other than the pump itself.
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Could you take the v belt pulley from the factory pump and put it on the Sag?
I dont believe the ford C2 pulley will fit on the shaft of the Saginaw. Im not 100% sure on that though. The other issue is belt tension. The serpentine setups use a tensioner pulley elsewhere in the accessory drive. The V-belt setup uses a tensioning slot on the PS bracket itself.

But yes, with some ingenuity and the right tools, you could make a bastardized setup. Essentially getting back to the roots of hotrodding: making what you got work.
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Everything desolate sells is overpriced. They kind of suck imo.
Does desolate even make their own stuff? One of them gofast companies sells a lot of other people's stuff.

I think all of those companies are overpriced. Especially when they are pumping out 100s of parts at once on a plasma/laser table. Not that their parts are crap, because they are not. Hell i bet Bill Carlton would build a custom 4 link suspension for nearly the price of some of the middle priced solo stuff.

Not that i wouldnt take your lift kit in a heartbeat...
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