[broncobill]

I did a search!.. didnt find much info...I think my pan gasket is shot...Drove bronco this weekend to hunting club and noticed while unlocking the gate to club there was a small spot of fresh oil under truck.... went wheelin through club searching for new places to put my stand....got home and parked...within an hour a nice puddle has formed under truck...I'm praying its just a pan gasket...truck seems to run great....I tried to get under and look but was getting late... it is really greasy/dirty build up under the motor so today I bought some degreaser and I'm going to begin to try and get the area clean... from what I have read I will have to undo motor mounts and jack the motor up.... is this a task or piece of cake to do.. and should I do anything else while I have the pan off... like the oil pump etc? any help would be apprec. because I have never done this before...

 

[BoulderBronco]

It is quite a task. You do need to jack the motor up. That's the easy part. Then you need to clean off the old one and fish the new one in and around the oil pickup unit. Be ready for lots of swearing but it can be done. Leave a good 3-4 hrs to do it if not more.

 

[Mrit]

Its a big PITA, I did it on my bronco II when it had the original engine. I will never use a 4pc gasket again, Im gonna be getting a one piece soon. I need to pull the pan cause the pickup tube/screen is clogged bad.

 

[blueoval78]

also, your exhaust manifold studs will prob break, so be prepared for that.

unbolting the trans mount helps a little too

 

[93BroncoXLT]

in doing this can you "Replaee the Pan" also? Without pulling the engine...just by lifting it?

BTW the Mounts are a PITA...especially the front ones...you'll see. I have them off and was going to replace the Pan while doing the Motor Mounts, but not sure If I can get the pan off. Looks like the exhaust from the drivers side might be in the way. Also want to make sure I can clear the crossmember.

Thanks

 

[jerry 1 a b]

Yes, you can replace the oil pan as well, but it's such a pain to get the oil pump in and out without pulling the motor. You have to be a contorshonist or one of them little Asian guys with 17 joints in your arm. I swear I don't know how they do it sometimes. Anyway, a few years back, I replaced my pan this way, and I went through 3 sets of gaskets until I could get it to stop leaking. I swore that I'd never do it this way again. If it turns out to be the pan gasket, make sure you get the one piece gasket. I just hope for your sake that it's the gasket and not the main seal.

 

[broncobill]

As far as I know it's coming from the front end of the motor..whether or not it is definately a pan gasket is not certain yet.. I did 2 cans of degreaser last night and removed some of the filth but looks like it is going to need more

 

[jerry 1 a b]

After the degreaser, try some brake parts cleaner. It will dry fast so you can see where it's comin from.

 

[jermil01]

Does it look something like this??

 

[broncobill]

yes and no.... It's so dirty and oily all over and the grime is like a 1/4" thick I can't tell just yet if it is a front seal or pan gasket.... It could be the coming from the very front of pan gasket where it meets the front cover...it really could be both....:shrug Going to get under it this afternoon to look some more..FSB rocks by the way!

 

[broncobill]

update....Everything was nice and dry... so I topped it off with oil and drove around... parked at home and it was forming a drip right under crankshaft oil seal..So I guess that it is a front crankshaft seal.... urgh... I have no tools to do this one...:banghead

 

[jerry 1 a b]

You don't need that many tools. If you have a set of SAE sockets you could get it done in an afternoon.

 

[broncobill]

yes... but there is the subject of cranshaft pulley..... I do not have a puller.. I have plenty of wrenches/sockets all the way up to 1 1/2" but I dont have a puller of any sorts.. From what I read in the chiltons I need a crankshaft pulley removal tool and also a front seal removal/instalation tool?

 

[Mrit]

I bought my puller from harbor frieght for $10. They also sell things to pound the seals in

 

[jerry 1 a b]

You can also rent a puller real cheap at some auto parts stores. How many miles are on it? You may want to replace the timing chain and gears while you're in there.

 

[broncobill]

odometer reads 80,000... so I dont know if it is 80,000 or multiples of it..lol... just bought the truck a couple months ago.. nothing but problems so far:thumbup