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My starter was getting heat soaked if I let the truck sit and idle for 10min. It wouldn't restart unless it had 2min to cool. I decided to upgrade! :chili:

First I ditched the stock starter solenoid from the fender.

All that's left is my large electrical distribution stud:


I built a new starter cable paired with a 16ga wire that activates the new starter solenoid. I re-wired one of the 30amp relays in the underhood fuse box for the starter.

Then I ordered a PMGR Starter and bolted it up:







Everything works, and I have the latest technology.
 

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you should get one of those starter heat blankets too, helped mine out after the headers
 

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Looks well engineered Ryan

pardon my ignorance, but what is PRMG. Also what's different about a 96 starter ?

I know when I changed my old 360 Mopar starter for one of the new gear reduction Magnum engine starters I couldn't even hear the "rurrr rurrr rurr" anymore, it just fired the second I turned the key.

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He spelled it wrong. It's PMGR- permanent magnet gear reduction. The trucks switched to that style starter in the 90's, 1993-up I think.
 

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Dustball said:
He spelled it wrong. It's PMGR- permanent magnet gear reduction. The trucks switched to that style starter in the 90's, 1993-up I think.
Thanks Dustball

so that's what the gear reduction Magnum starter did for my old Cheeseler too ? What a frickin' difference that made. One of my Impala buddies was goading me by saying "it's starts like a Chev now", which I couldn't deny as he was right.

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So, how would you wire this up in a vehicle with the old style starter relay (like my '88 5.8). I have the starter, I just can't figure out the wiring. Thanks.
 

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I've had the PMGR Starter for a while now. This is how I wired the new relay, it has worked great:

As you can see the headlight switch is powered by this relay. So when the key is in start, it cuts out the lights to shunt maximum power to the starter.
 

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you should look at your ignition switch and the harness plug for any heat damage :duh
 

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Is it a wise idea to have the headlights, any AUX lights, and efans shut off when you turn the key to the crank position?

Not sure if the instant load of everything coming back on after the motor starting is a good idea.

The efans have a controller with a "soft start" feature.
 

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you want as few items as possible running while the starter and alternator fluctuate the voltage
 

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Steve, A few monthe ago I ordered the PMGR no. 2-1806-FD-1 and the "Starter Retro Kit" for my '90 Bronco... So I shouldn't wire it up with the kit i got ? If so, Got any part no's for the right stuff? I dont wanna overheat nuthin'.
 

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wire it up like Ryan shows in the instructions included with the kit.

kf4amu didnt install the wiring like stated with the kit, there for there could be problems.
 

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No love for the 73-79 F series. I have a 4.5" starter on my 4.9 77 F100.....would this starter not fit?
 

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I have had the heat soak issue as well. Is it just the redisgn of the starter that makes it work well? I ask because I had read about the starter you used, and was trying to decide whether to go the route you went, or to purchase a new stock starter and wrap it with a heat blanket from Summit.
 
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