[J A F O]

Well, two questions. This is for my 95 w/ a 302.


1) Wondering if anyone knew a part number for the required, longer serp belt on a 95 302?

2) As I understand it, 300's and 302's have a PSPS that needs to be spliced in during the swap. That or get a Sag from a donor that had a 300 or 302 and it will come with a PSPS.
The Sag I've got has a PSPS but my Bronco's old C2 pump does not. Any thoughts as to why my 302 doesn't have one? (aside from the pump not being original)

Thanks.

-m

 

[Crazed]

my 89 used the same belt....if it wont work, I think you just get a belt for a 351

 

[Davids78Bronco]

no idea, but i can check out the wiring diagrams for it on monday

if you are not taking a switch out and disconecting it during the swap, i wouldnt worry about it.
just let the sags senser hang, it "shouldnt" cause a problem.

not to many people have done it to the newer ones.
I believe Raf posted his part # for his 95 351 in my saginaw pumps for sale post.
to tight on the belt is also not a good thing, wears the bearings on all the accersories...

 

[J A F O]

no idea, but i can check out the wiring diagrams for it on monday

if you are not taking a switch out and disconecting it during the swap, i wouldnt worry about it.
just let the sags senser hang, it "shouldnt" cause a problem.

That's my thought too.

not to many people have done it to the newer ones.
I believe Raf posted his part # for his 95 351 in my saginaw pumps for sale post.
to tight on the belt is also not a good thing, wears the bearings on all the accersories...

Yep. I wasn't going to try to re-use my old belt.
I'm not doing the swap right this second anyway. Just trying to gather any info on the belt ahead of time so I can do it w/out having to run up to the parts store.
Thanks.

-m

 

[Fireguy50]

94 & 95 F-150 / U-150 w/ 5.0L

Mass Air w/ 4R70W auto trans (NO PSPS)
Mass Air w/ E4OD auto trans (NO PSPS)
Speed Density w/ Manual trans (YES PSPS)

 

[J A F O]

94 & 95 F-150 / U-150 w/ 5.0L

Mass Air w/ 4R70W auto trans (NO PSPS)
Mass Air w/ E4OD auto trans (NO PSPS)
Speed Density w/ Manual trans (YES PSPS)

If I understand correctly, my 95, speed density 302 w/ a manual tranny should have a PSPS, yes?
It doesn't.
I guess I just have a 351 and don't know it. (yeah right)


-m

 

[Fireguy50]

3 ways to tell a 302 vs a 351
EGR
302 EGR is fed exhaust from the lower intake
351 EGR is fed exhaust from the exhaust manifold
Fuel rail / intake width
302 fuel rail is ~1/2" from the upper intake
351 fuel rail is ~1.5" from the upper intake
Vin
302 vin has an engine code of N
351 vin has an engine code of H

check the vin maybe a previous owner swaped in a 302, you poor bastard if thats the case. If you want to check to see if a pvevious owner removed the PSPS connector from the harness, pull the computer plug and check if there is a wire in slot 24

The only difference between a PSPS equipt vehicel and one without is the high pressure hose, computer and 1 extra connector in the harness.

Worse case senereo is you are suposed to have one and you don't now. you can live without it. :thumbup

 

[seboh]

Most of the belt part numbers will be the number of ribs and the length of the belt in inches. So, a 6V565 belt would be 6 ribs, 56.5" long.

Crossreference the belt listing until you find a manufacturer that lists it this way. Then add a bit to the belt length. I think 2" is the magic number.... but in all honesty, I don't remember changing the belt when I changed pumps.

Aha... here goes (90 302):

Kelly Springfield: 915K6 (91.5" long)
Gatorback: 4060915

I'd double-check those part numbers for your model year, but you can see how they "code" them.

 

[Davids78Bronco]

the 94 ons i think use a different belt routing, and a different belt, as the eblt off my 92 351 would no where fit zillas 95...

 

[Fireguy50]

yeah, they added a second idler pully between the smog pump and Alt in the 92-96 years

 

[Davids78Bronco]

yeah, they added a second idler pully between the smog pump and Alt in the 92-96 years

ya, but there are some oddballs.
people also said all 92's have a different style alt mount thant pre 91's, well, mine has a 91 style alt mount, and belt routing.

 

[marriedguy1]

On my 94 with a 302 and A/C I used a 102 inch belt. I went down to the auto parts store had them look up a stick belt and then asked them for a belt 2 inches longer, and 102 is what they gave me.

 

[81Bronk36]

3 ways to tell a 302 vs a 351
EGR
302 EGR is fed exhaust from the lower intake
351 EGR is fed exhaust from the exhaust manifold
Fuel rail / intake width
302 fuel rail is ~1/2" from the upper intake
351 fuel rail is ~1.5" from the upper intake
Vin
302 vin has an engine code of N
351 vin has an engine code of H

dont forget the 1/2" step up between the dizzy hold down and the intake gasket... thats my favorite

 

[muddybronco]

the stock belt on my 93 351 is 102". i think 93 was the changeover year when they added the idler pulley because according to the FORD computer i needed the old style tensioner and idler but they then gave me stuff for a 94 and it was what i had originally. is it common knowledge that 96's don't have smog pumps? Steve83's 96 parts truck in memphis doesn't have one at all! :thumbup