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Knowing that the stock E4OD and Torque Converter are not adequate for a new 408 Stroker with high torque, I have resigned to the fact that it will rapidly fail at some point similar to the rapid destruction of my 8.8 Pinion Gear.

To be pro-active, I have ordered a custom built Level 10 PTS Performance Transmission w/custom built Torque Converter. Level 10 owner Pat Barrett personally consulted on the design. :twotu:


The Level 10 PTS Bulletproof E4OD Transmission is being custom built from scratch, computer graphed and designed specifically for my engine specs and dyno tune. It will have high-energy performance clutches & bands, modified high output Pump, modified shift Solenoid and custom valve body modifications.





The Level 10 PTS Billet Torque Converter is also being custom built in-house for my application with a custom pump, stator and turbine. It will have billet internals combined with an anti balloon plate and a high-performance lock-up clutch. It was recommended to tighten up the stall speed a bit, but at this point I am not sure what was exactly settled on.





The new custom E4OD will be installed alongside the existing Mag-Hytec Transmission Pan (16 + 7.5 quarts), B&M Racing 29,200 BTU Transmission Oil Cooler, Perma-Cool Remote Transmission Oil Filter Mount, Transmission/Differential Temperature Gauges and will run exclusively with Amsoil Synthetic ATF.













See the following Off-Road Magazine Article: Level 10 Transmissions - Build The Best Off Road Tranny You Can
 

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$3298.00 for the custom E4OD (no core) and $1198.00 for the custom Torque Converter. Prices are posted on their web-site.

This one is built from scratch, but they will rebuild your core for $2498.00, less torque converter. Heck, I paid $2600.00 to a local transmission shop for my last stock rebuild w/torque converter.

It is worth it to me considering both my engine and future mods in planning. :thumbup
 

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$3498.00 for the custom E4OD (no core) and $1198.00 for the custom Torque Converter. Prices are posted on their web-site.

It is worth it to me considering both my engine and future mods in planning. :thumbup
Feels painful to read that, but when the time comes to repace mine (again) I would be willing to throw some money at it like that. The feeling of having a bullet proof E4OD would be well worth it... :thumbup
 

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Something tells me you spared no expense at building that purty rig.

But I might see about them rebuilding my tranny when the time comes.
 

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Looks good, hope it performs well. You certainly don't skimp on quality.

Unfortunately:cry my plans have been sped up some so I will be starting my swap soon. I just wish I had your wallet/checkbook to cover a rebuild like this for mine. :banghead Although in reality from some of the prices I see quoted on here, that really isn't that unreasonable. (I need to check my area to see if these prices are comparable.) If it performs as expected it will be money well spent!

Let us know when you get it installed and how she does.

tim

Does that price include shipping?
 

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If it performs as expected it will be money well spent!
I am not looking at this as how much money can I spend, but more as dependability with my application.

I have had three complete E4OD rebuilds in the 20 years that I have owned the truck. With the new 408 Stroker, I feel that investing in the E4OD now will limit my exposure to an unplanned breakdown or expense.

I would have sat on it for a while but the quickly destroyed 8.8 pinion gear opened my eyes to the drivetrain requirements of high torque. And it is widely known among performance builders that a stock E4OD will not hold up in performance applications.


Does that price include shipping?
Shipping was $256.00 from Hardyston, New Jersey to Seattle, Washington. Insurance was an additional $79.00. No tax.
 

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And it is widely known among performance builders that a stock E4OD will not hold up in performance applications.
I am debating this fact right now. My AOD is giving up and I am just not gonna spend money on it when I have my other parts mostly gathered. I just had wanted/planned to have the E4OD thoroughly built before swapping to the 5.8/E4OD. But, alas the money just isn't available right now. I think I am gonna do a valve body from punisher and swap it in as is from the wrecked vehicle. I figure that will be better than "wasting" a stockish rebuild for a better one a few years later. (Of course my motor will not be up to the level of yours, but should be pretty nice.)

I do agree if you can afford to spend the money to buy the very best you can. I don't think I'll get rid of my truck for many years--if ever. You obviously are attached to yours too. :rockon

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I have an older fourwheeler or something or other that has a good article about rebuilding the 4r100/E40D. It follows I think tom woods or something like that.
I'll see if I can scan it in tomorrow.

FWIW 'most' stuff they do, even for this built is mostly a stock rebuild. They aren't replacing lots of hard parts. Even used stock clutch packs.
Of course they had options of hardened shafts and other non sense that most of us don't need (it was a "pulling trans" for a diesel)
 

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I was working near the Level 10 shop several years ago when the original transmission died. It was way overkill for my stock 302 and 33's but at the time I thought I was going to go bigger so I figured getting the best I could find was warranted. 140,000 miles later it still shifts very crisply. I don't know how much it had t do with the shift pattern, but I've always thought that after the rebuild it downshifted and held 3rd more apporpriately on highway hills.
 

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I'm very jealous. Once I install injectors and electric fueling my truck will definitely burn up the already strained e4od.

Before you spend the money on that B&M cooler take a look at a 6.0 Powestroke cooler. Pretty much the size of a civics radiator :toothless.
 

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Seattle, i'm just curious if the 408 stroker motor is a mechanical or hydraulic cammed ?
I am using the following:

Comp Cams Xtreme Energy Hydraulic Roller Camshaft 35-351-8
Comp Cams Pro Magnum Retro Fit Hydraulic Roller Lifters
Comp Cams Hi-Tech Push Rods
Comp Cams Pro Magnum Full Roller 1.6 Rocker Arms

See the link in my signature.
 

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Looking good, I dropped my E4OD off at the transmission shop today. Hopefully it will not take too long. When do you think you'll start swapping the parts?

tim
 
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