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My truck's a 78, so the lights are nice an yellow, and unless the high beams are on, you cant see much. So I was lookin on the web for an HID conversion for my truck. Well, $400 isnt in the budget right now, so I decided to go with the Sylvania Silverstar sealed beam headlights instead. They are white instead of blue like some, which is what I wanted.

I got them from BrightHeadLights-HID.com , but when I picked them up they were on special for about $25 each, instead of whatever $35 w/ mail in rebate. That is each light mind you.

So I got them, they were backordered for about a week, and then they sat in my room with all my other car stuff for another week or so. Tonight when my friend was over and we were trying out different carbs, I threw them on.

And boy is it hard to change headlights on a 78 (sarcasm). 2 screws for the bezel, 4 screws for the ring that holds the light on. If we had a 1-5 wrench scale for difficulty, this would be a 0. Just undo the 12 screws, pull out plug, put plug in new light, and then back in with the screws again. Im tellin ya, hardest thing I ever did.

I was going to take pictures of the beams, but the difference didnt show up very much on film. But it is noticeable. If you look into the lights (one changed, one not) the new one is alot whiter, opposed to the very yellow old light. And its alot better on the street too. Once I did get on the street however, I didnt pay much attention, mostly because my C6 was now missing 3rd gear (doh!). But the new lights helped.

Is it worth it? I wouldnt get them if your current lights are fine, but if one blows or the old ones get too dim, they are prob worth it. Considering a stock replacement from Advance Auto Parts is about 10 bucks, and I now see you can get the same ones I got from Advance for $20 each, I dont see why not. I think these would help alot more for those of you who run round lights, because those seem to throw out less than the rec's.

They also come in Cool Blue which I dont like, but hey, Im a moron. I just wrote six pages on almost stock headlights.

Oh, and try adjusting the direction of your beams before you go changing lights. Its just two screws in the bezel, and if you are lifted, and didnt change em, if you do it will prob make a big difference.
 

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I have the Sylvnaia replacement bulbs in my 94. Much cleaner and brighter. After a little adjusting, Its a 100x better then the stock bulbs.
 

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Drilim said:
I have the Sylvnaia replacement bulbs in my 94. Much cleaner and brighter. After a little adjusting, Its a 100x better then the stock bulbs.
I put Sylvania ExtraVision halogens in my 86 and that helped quite a bit. Then I used a posted conversion diagram to help me convert to a 130 amp 3rd generation alternator and that helped too. Lastly I ran 12 gauge wiring right from the headlight pigtails to three relays fused and fed right off the alternator stud. The third relay keeps the lows on when the highs are on.

After that I was able to see into neighbouring counties ! At the start I had barely 11 volts at the headlight plug, when I was done I was up to 14.75 volts at the headlight plug. Major McDifference !

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thanks D! the syl's are def brighter; I can see the diff via my security camera when I remote start it at night.
 

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HIDs are the blue ones found in BMWs right. I know you can get conversion kits where you have those clear, diamond, euro or whatever you call those lights found in just about all new cars and trucks. They replace sealed beam lights. All you replace is the bulbs in them just like in the newer cars. You can put any kind of bulbs in them.
 

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yo mh,
Yes, I like those, but I don't have the spare $ for the kit. I would like to rig-up some automatic cornering light though; need those here in the pine barrens because of the narrow "roads" and wildlife that like o hang on da corners.
 

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The HID conversion is way to expensive. The Slyvania Silverstar's are definately the way to go. They are much brighter than the standard halogen bulbs and only cost a fraction of what the HID conversion will cost you. Besides what happens if you break one of the HID lamps when you are off-road.
 

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i got the replacement sealed beam silverstars and they arent that much birhgter but the white light makes alot of difference. i love them. everything is so much more crisp and clear.
 

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I just bought new headlight's - the actual lens itself - and will put my SilverStars in those to get some resemblence of a pattern back....

I also run the SS in my BMW - the really blueish lights you see on BMW's are bad HID kits. The stock HID kit in BMW's is very white, not blue.
 

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I just bought new headlight's - the actual lens itself - and will put my SilverStars in those to get some resemblence of a pattern back....

I also run the SS in my BMW - the really blueish lights you see on BMW's are bad HID kits. The stock HID kit in BMW's is very white, not blue.
I wonder if a person could try to find the HID harness in one of these newer rides and convert it to one of ours?!?! Just an idea seeing how the HID conversion is around $500. I would like it on my 79.
 

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Just stuck the SilverStars in tonight

Home hardware had them marked down to $26 CDN or $21 American, so I finally jumped.

Quite a difference alright, but not the way I was expecting. I used to have two intensely bright ExtraVision headlights that went way into the fields and were overpowering to about 80% the range these new Silverstars are now.

Within the old range these SilverStars appear to be not as bright, at first glance. Then you notice they aren't two round beams, they're now one wide continuous wide band effect spectrum. The only time you're aware there's two of them is they overlap like an oval close to the center.

As I said I figure they go out an extra 20% further than the old ExtraVisions and what's better is they really highlight and define(illuminate) the yellow and white traffic paint on the road way, way further away.

On lows I no longer get flashed as there are no longer two intense beams, but one broad band of strange white light, guess I'll get used to it.

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The Silverstars are great for light but make sure you have a spare one or two on hand. They are well known for only lasting about 4 -6 months before burning out. I went through 4 of them on my Maxima before giving up.

I ended up getting a set of Angel Eye projectors and will do a HID retrofit when I have the $$ to spend on it.
 

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Alright, i guess i'll start out by clearing up this misconception about HID lights, xenon gas, halogen and all.

The normal bulb you get for your truck has a charge of bromine gas in it... not very efficient at producing visible light... Silverstars, and the high performance ones all use a charge of xenon gas, which is much more efficient, brighter, and produces a higher color temp (whiter).

HID stands for High Intensity Discharge, the regular bulbs that ya'll are talkin about are NOT HID bulbs...

HID lamps are arc lamps, where a bolt of electricity jumps from the anode to the electrode. Not the kind where the filament inside burns. A true HID kit costs on average 800 and up. This involves a sealed housing, a lamp, the ballast, and supply equipment... these things are NOT small by any means. The most common use of HID lamps is in movie theaters, made by OSRAM.

My opinion, throw out all your junk silverstar bulbs, and go to www.streetglow.com and order a pair of their "xenon-whites"...after having the silverstars and upgrading to the streetglow bulbs, its like night and day difference. The silverstars are still a yellow compared to these, and these are much brighter... 55/65 vs the streetglow 80/100... dont worry about melting wires or housings... my lights are semi-clouded (from road debris) and mine warm up, but not much more then the other bulbs do. they do draw some power... nearly 10a per side. Not to mention they're cheaper then the sylvania bulbs...
 

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I had some Xenon bulbs for a while... The low beam worked right, but the high beam was aimed too high to light the street.

Anyway, the Xenon bulbs were GREAT! Very bright, very white! Ive got Sulv. SS in right now, there not much better than generic or cheap-o's IMHO.

Im checking out the streetglow.com site...

I may give them a try, the previous set of Xenons I got were off ebay...
 

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theratdude64 said:
what of the street glow will fit my 90?
9004 Im pretty sure...

Go back to the site, click on the Xenon lights link, theres a link there that takes you to the Sylvania site for an application lookup... You look, you will find! :thumbup
 

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on streetglow or sylvania? I dont want Silver Star's. I looked on street glows and they had model numbers but not application chart from what I saw :brownbag
Look for the link... It takes you to the Sylvania site.. Where theres a lookup page there... The model number of the Sylvania buld will the be same model number of Street Glo bulb you need.

Heres the StreetGlo URL:
https://www.streetglow.com/cgi-local/shop.pl/SID=111943540831752/adcode=/page=hid.htm

Look for this:
Click here for the bulb application guide

Takes you here:
http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/LampReplacementGuide/

Based on the information you listed I came up with:
1990 FORD Bronco
High & low beam headlamp
9004



See, easy as lard is greasy! :thumbup

BTW, your welcome. :toothless
 

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MyFullSize said:
Look for the link... It takes you to the Sylvania site.. Where theres a lookup page there... The model number of the Sylvania buld will the be same model number of Street Glo bulb you need.

Heres the StreetGlo URL:
https://www.streetglow.com/cgi-local/shop.pl/SID=111943540831752/adcode=/page=hid.htm

Look for this:
Click here for the bulb application guide

Takes you here:
http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/LampReplacementGuide/

Based on the information you listed I came up with:
1990 FORD Bronco
High & low beam headlamp
9004



See, easy as lard is greasy! :thumbup

BTW, your welcome. :toothless
Very informative link Fullsize

Thanks, she's book marked

Sixlitre
 

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Sixlitre said:
Very informative link Fullsize
I do what I can :thumbup
 
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