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All those who have done a SAS could you post how you mounted the trackbar?
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I ran a search...found this thread..click here.
Ya rafs is all well and good but ya shouldn't weld on the tops and bottom of the frames. Also it has no support on the sides. That could rip right off..

AK, I'm hoping to have mine made this weekend ya can come back over and check it out if I get it complete...
Bronco85 said:
Also it has no support on the sides. That could rip right off..


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OK It has support for going to the passanger side. But not to the driver side.
Bronco85 said:
OK It has support for going to the passanger side. But not to the driver side.
:histerica


are you serious..?
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Based on what I've seen, Raf's design has more support than a stock trac bar mount. The word beefy would be an understatement.
Bronco85 said:
OK It has support for going to the passanger side. But not to the driver side.
what you gonna weld the driver's side support to? the wheel :rolleyes:
i found a shining example of how springs should look for an SAS.
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LOL, my spring has never looked like that!

It looks like the bottom plate bolts are not tight on that thing. That bottom plate should be flat?
Ya and if you read through there, I said it isn't right. And I asked for suggestions on how to stop it. Are you trying to just make me look bad by showing that picture without saying what happened? The problem has been fixed and it will not be on the road like that, nor did I ever intend to drive it with that problem.

No I will not be welding it to the wheel. I will be running it up the frame, so that it has somthing to push on. Just like everyone is doing with the bar to the crossmember.

Andy351 said:
what you gonna weld the driver's side support to? the wheel :rolleyes:
i found a shining example of how springs should look for an SAS.
Is there any advantage in ride and handling to make a custom lower track bar mount that is directly above the axle instead of using the stock one, or is it simply for crossmember clearance issues???

I'm about to either buy the superlift adjustable one, or if its better, I'm going to order heims, and DOM and have it tapped for a custom track bar..

I think somehow a heim and this lower and upper mount would be better than using the stock one... can someone correct me if I'm wrong?


I like this setup for the upper:
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Pile_Of_Parts said:
Is there any advantage in ride and handling to make a custom lower track bar mount that is directly above the axle instead of using the stock one, or is it simply for crossmember clearance issues???

I'm about to either buy the superlift adjustable one, or if its better, I'm going to order heims, and DOM and have it tapped for a custom track bar..

I think somehow a heim and this lower and upper mount would be better than using the stock one... can someone correct me if I'm wrong?


I like this setup for the upper:
I suspect that if you want to go high steer/knuckle under the stock mount could interfere with the steering in addition to the crossmember clearance. A strait bar directly over the axel wouldn't interfere with the hang downs on the crossmember either. I'm in the middle of doing mine. Soembody confirm these ideas?????
is anyone using a stock upper mount of a 77-79 1/2 ton?thats what i plan on using and wanna know if it werks
I think it is safe to say NO. pretty sure I have already told you that. The bracket will not be strong enuf on the frame with(OUT) tying it into the xmember or having it cover a wide section of frame for load dispersment. The track bar puts lots of force on the frame and will bend or crack the frame. Couple that with the forces from the gearbox, and you REALLY need to make a good track bar bracket.

That, and the stock upper mount would need to be mounted approximately wherre one bolt is for the gear box (and that the frame bends there) and that mount wont work. You need to go lie under your trcuk for a while and see what i am talking about.

*edited the with part*
44 lower





44 lower again


44 upper




upper




upper/xmember



60 lower (same upper)



60 lower again





Havent had a single problem yet with these mounts, and i use a stragiht trackbar.
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hey look Numb Nuts found his camera :goodfinge
I am revising my plans - I want my lower to be exactly like yours on the D60 Damon... Excellent design in my (non-expert) opinion.


I do have one question for you though... WHY did you put heims on your Xmember to track bar bracket support - why didn't you just weld it - it shouldn't EVER need to be adjusted -- right????????



PS - I also think it might be a good idea to wrap the upper mount around the side of the frame rail like you did for extra support...


UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR AWARD:
The bracket will not be strong enuf on the frame with tying it into the xmember or having it cover a wide section of frame for load dispersment. The track bar puts lots of force on the frame and will bend or crack the frame. Couple that with the forces from the gearbox, and you REALLY need to make a good track bar bracket.
Thanks for laying it out like that - the entire weight of the Bronco and then some is on that tracbar bracket and steering box - upper track bar mount must REINFORCE and work together to tie the crossmember, steering box, and frame rail together, or you're gonna rip your frame or crossmember.

Trust me - I cracked my original frame in 12 places - it CAN be done.. They aren't THAT tough!
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I cant take credit for the actual design and quality of the track bar brackets. I told a friend what I was looking for, and he came up with the ideas. The heims on the xmember piece arent for any real purpose, other than it flows with the rest of the stuff and I didnt really want to use a piece of angle iron. i could have tried to use square tube, but the angles would have been off. I had originally wanted to do a removeable bracket which started the little heims, but it turned out better if it was a permanent deal because it allowed for fewer additional bolt holes in an already swiss cheese like frame
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