[78bronco460]

Warn M12000. It's got good line speed, great power, and it's built like a tank.

The reason I recommend it is the pulling force by layer. If you look at the spec tables on the winches you'll see that the first wrap on the drum pulls at the winch rating, then it goes down. With the 12k you still have over 9200# of pulling force on the 5th layer on the drum. On the 9.5k it's down to 6940# on the 5th layer. The tradeoff is that pulling force takes amps, so your electrical system needs to be up to the job.

You rig is set up for doing serious enough wheeling that you're going to need all the pulling power you can get at some point in time.

 

[78bronco460]

Right now im looking at this one... http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/VR12000_winch.shtml

The other 12k that warn offers has a price tag of $1,800 bucks
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/12.0-endurance.shtml

Interesting that the two winches you are looking at have the same drum dimensions and nearly identical gear ratios, but the pull by layer spec is very different. The endurance winch spec table must be a typo.

I have the M12000 and it's a beast.

 

[78bronco460]

agree. 6700 lbs on 4th layer, no way for a 12k that is $1800. My 9kXD is a little over 7k on the 4th layer.

did you also note the short 3/8ths cable? isn't your old 12k 125' of 3/8ths? I have 100', and these are 94' and 80'.

Actually I've got 125' of 7/16" cable on it. I like the added safety factor of the 17,600# breaking strength.