Bronco Forum - Full Size Ford Bronco Forum banner

1 - 12 of 12 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,499 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
I just read an article where Judicial Watch sued for paperwork concerning some of the George Papadopoulos stuff. According to the documents that the Feds turned over, Stefan Halper, the professor that was trying to get info out of Papadopoulos was paid $1,058,000 between May of 2012 and March of 2018 by the DOD's Office of Assessment. By he way that's the Department of Defense. That's some pretty serious money for a professor don't you think? Not to mention a lot of our money. If they are spending that much for just a possible smidgen of info can you imagine how much of our money they are spending on the rest of this Bull$h!t?
Swamp
 

·
Premium Member
1987 Bronco 351W, C6
Joined
·
1,213 Posts
Yeah, Judicial watch is great! For a really good understanding of this whole humongous scandal, listen to and read Dan Bongino. Which side colluded with foreigners to influence the election?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,499 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
Oh yeah! I get me some Dan 3 or 4 times a week. Wait that sounds bad. I mean I watch Dan's podcast a couple of times a week.
Also just heard another rumor that involves the Wuhan Wet Market. many keep saying that the bat that is supposidly responsible for the Covid 19 wasn't sold there. The rumor insinuates that those very same bats were used in the research lab and that to make extra money some of the rare lab animals were being sold in the market by some lab researchers. I can make that work in my brain.
Swamp
 

·
Premium Member
1987 Bronco 351W, C6
Joined
·
1,213 Posts
Yup, like I've said in other places, the bat lives hundreds of miles away. This plague was released (accidently?) by their lab and it was (accidentally?) dispersed from there via the international airport there in Wuhan.

The depths of the depravity of our Intelligence and Federal Law Enforcement in the whole Spygate debacle leaves me with little faith in our Government and makes me feel as if the country I grew up in is dying.
It is now official that the FBI intentionally set out to entrap Lt Gen. Flynn because he opposed the Obama Iran deal, wanted accountability in intelligence, and was going to work for Pres. Trump. This sort of persecution of opposition used to be confined to Totalitarian regimes, but is now approved of and applauded by some here in this country. It is going to take 20 years of good Conservative leadership to turn the tide on this
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,490 Posts
Yup, like I've said in other places, the bat lives hundreds of miles away. This plague was released (accidently?) by their lab and it was (accidentally?) dispersed from there via the international airport there in Wuhan.

The depths of the depravity of our Intelligence and Federal Law Enforcement in the whole Spygate debacle leaves me with little faith in our Government and makes me feel as if the country I grew up in is dying.
It is now official that the FBI intentionally set out to entrap Lt Gen. Flynn because he opposed the Obama Iran deal, wanted accountability in intelligence, and was going to work for Pres. Trump. This sort of persecution of opposition used to be confined to Totalitarian regimes, but is now approved of and applauded by some here in this country. It is going to take 20 years of good Conservative leadership to turn the tide on this
The virus starin studied in the Wuhan lab and the virus strain found outside in Wuhan proper are NOT the same strain. That has already been proven beyond doubt. Try and find that in us media, though.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
607 Posts
The virus starin studied in the Wuhan lab and the virus strain found outside in Wuhan proper are NOT the same strain. That has already been proven beyond doubt. Try and find that in us media, though.
Correct.
Somewhere in this hour-long video, the lady epidemiologist shows a chart that details the identifying properties of the Covid strain that is infecting people worldwide and shows that it was manipulated in a lab, not by the "normal" morphing done in nature. I posted this video in another thread a day or two ago.... very interesting.

 

·
Premium Member
1987 Bronco 351W, C6
Joined
·
1,213 Posts
The virus starin studied in the Wuhan lab and the virus strain found outside in Wuhan proper are NOT the same strain. That has already been proven beyond doubt. Try and find that in us media, though.
The rapid changes in this virus indicate that it did indeed come from a lab. A study done of cell phone "heat" indicates closed traffic around the lab for a time in November and the curious fact that China restricted travel from the Wuhan Airport within China and not internationally at different times is damning. If the current strains did not come from that lab, where did they come from? Just magically mutated at the same time a separate sickness originated in Wuhan? There is no denying that the current Global pandemic came from that lab and was spread by the Communist Chinese government.
 

·
Registered
82 XLT Lariat 351w, Edelbrock 1406 4bbl ,C6 auto, auto locking hubs ,33x10.5x15
Joined
·
2,557 Posts
The virus starin studied in the Wuhan lab and the virus strain found outside in Wuhan proper are NOT the same strain. That has already been proven beyond doubt. Try and find that in us media, though.
There are currently 3 different covid strains they have identified during this pandemic. Read it in an article talking about how fast this virus mutates.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,490 Posts
The rapid changes in this virus indicate that it did indeed come from a lab. A study done of cell phone "heat" indicates closed traffic around the lab for a time in November and the curious fact that China restricted travel from the Wuhan Airport within China and not internationally at different times is damning. If the current strains did not come from that lab, where did they come from? Just magically mutated at the same time a separate sickness originated in Wuhan? There is no denying that the current Global pandemic came from that lab and was spread by the Communist Chinese government.
"There is no denying that the current Global pandemic came from that lab and was spread by the Communist Chinese government."
So, if the strain inside the lab and the strain outside are NOT the same, how do you conclude that it came from the lab? Your statement is conjecture and has zero basis in fact. It is quite possible that the origin strain came from Fort Detrick via the "athletes" who travelled from the nearby Army base to Wuhan for the Military Fair. These "athletes" were staying in a hotel only a block away from the wet market and many were treated in a local hospital for "flu" symptoms.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
331 Posts
Personally, I think they were manipulating the virus in various animals (bats included) and an idiot scientist sold dead carcasses to the “wet” markets and BAM, Bob’s your Uncle... and I need no proof as this is my own, under informed, opinion..
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
638 Posts
"There is no denying that the current Global pandemic came from that lab and was spread by the Communist Chinese government."
So, if the strain inside the lab and the strain outside are NOT the same, how do you conclude that it came from the lab? Your statement is conjecture and has zero basis in fact. It is quite possible that the origin strain came from Fort Detrick via the "athletes" who travelled from the nearby Army base to Wuhan for the Military Fair. These "athletes" were staying in a hotel only a block away from the wet market and many were treated in a local hospital for "flu" symptoms.
No it’s been debunked by most rational scientific thinking individuals. From ‘The Scientist’.
Chinese Officials Blame US Army for Coronavirus
There is no evidence backing the idea that SARS-CoV-2 originated from US servicemembers visiting Wuhan.
Lisa Winter

Lisa Winter
Mar 13, 2020

6.6K
ABOVE: © ISTOCK.COM, EUGENEONLINE
AChinese official who has a history of attacking the United States online has lent a voice to a conspiracy theory that blames American soldiers for bringing COVID-19 to China, though the science does not support that narrative.
According to the unfounded accusation, which reports say has been widely shared on the popular Chinese social media platform Weibo, the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 was introduced to China when 300 US military members arrived in the Wuhan region for the Military World Games in mid-October and infected the local population. None of the servicemembers who made the trip have tested positive for the virus.
The rumors seemed to begin when Chinese respiratory specialist Zhong Nanshan stated at a February press conference that “though the COVID-19 was first discovered in China, it does not mean that it originated from China,” planting the seeds of doubt.
On Thursday (March 12), Zhao Lijian, the spokesperson of China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, took to Twitter, a social platform banned in China, to ask, “When did patient zero begin in US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make public your data! US owe us an explanation!”
The text of the tweet was accompanied by a video of US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield saying that some deaths assumed to have been caused by the flu were actually COVID-19, though the video does not reference specific cases or dates.
Lijian has also retweeted a link to a known conspiracy site that claims the virus may have originated at the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Ft. Detrick in Maryland, which was shut down in August after biosafety lapses with a number of pathogens. The website goes on to speculate that the virus went from Ft. Detrick to e-cigarettes to Hawaii to Wuhan. There is no evidence the pathogens in Maryland ever left the lab and there’s an equal lack of evidence supporting any of the other claims.
An analysis of the virus’s genome indicates that the outbreak wasn’t caused by a strain from a lab and likely came from wild animals instead.
Despite the lack of evidence, the fact that a government official is making these claims seemingly unchecked could have larger consequences, says Victor Shih, an associate professor at the University of California, San Diego.
“If the [Chinese] leadership really believes in the culpability of the U.S. government,” Shih tells The New York Times, “it may behave in a way that dramatically worsens the bilateral relationship.”
The statements might simply be a distraction from criticisms about how China has handled the outbreak. Li Wenliang, a Chinese doctor who had tried to raise awareness about the virus in the early stages, was punished by the government and forced to say his concerns were an “illegal rumor.” Li contracted the virus himself while treating a patient in January and died on February 7. Critics claim that had these concerns been taken seriously at the time, it could have curbed the severity of the outbreak.
The unfounded claims could also be a response to US officials who have referred to SARS-CoV-2 as the “China virus” or “Wuhan virus,” according to the Times, terms that Lijian denounced as “highly irresponsible” at a March 4 press conference.
“The conspiracy theories are a new, low front in what they clearly perceive as a global competition over the narrative of this crisis,” Julian Gewirtz, an Academy Scholar at Harvard University's Weatherhead Center for International Affairs, tells the Times.
Lisa Winter is the social media editor for The Scientist. Email her at [email protected] or connect on Twitter @Lisa831.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
947 Posts
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
Top