Addicted to Junk
Oh and the f250 I bought as a parts truck has a running 351 in it. I drove it home when I bought it
So are you looking for a Sag type 1 (canned ham reservoir) or a Type 2 (full remote reservoir)? Because the latter type can be found on newer econolines. I think it's when they switched to the mod motors. My 99 has the type 2. I would think your best bet for that would be one off a Essex 4.2L v6. It has similar architecture as the SBF and even shares the same bellhousing bolt pattern. I could take a quick glance in a bit at mine.All I found today was a Dodge SRT4 (turbo Neon)...you don't see many of those around...which I guess is why it's the first one I've seen in the yards, given its death trap reputation should make it a common sight there.
I did spot two GM hydroboost setups w/ saginaw and remote reservoir, though: a very clean GMC Safari and an extremely unclean Chevy Astro. I need to do my homework before next week's trip on whether that's worth pulling and what all is involved.
Thanks for the info and pics. I've seen you mention you only do new parts for brake components, which is probably wise, but I've had good luck in the past with used caliper upgrades. The Safari looking so clean and leak-free caught my eye for that reason. Heck, the whole engine bay was pristine. Who details their minivan?! I'm thinking it was either very well maintained, or very lightly driven.So are you looking for a Sag type 1 (canned ham reservoir) or a Type 2 (full remote reservoir)? Because the latter type can be found on newer econolines. I think it's when they switched to the mod motors. My 99 has the type 2. I would think your best bet for that would be one off a Essex 4.2L v6. It has similar architecture as the SBF and even shares the same bellhousing bolt pattern. I could take a quick glance in a bit at mine.
I personally would never buy any brake booster or master at the yard. I would look for a new/reman out of a 87-97 F-Superduty. Iirc, the pedal pivot is slightly different between those and the normal vacuum boosted brake models.
That's interesting, all the half dozen or so Astro/Safaris I've seen all had remote reservoirs and the round-ish looking pump in place of the canned ham Saginaw. (I never got a close look at one, because as mentioned previously, they eat pulley pullers for lunch!) Why would there be a remote reservoir in addition to the regular canned ham reservoir? Is that just extra capacity, or is it somehow bypassing the reservoir on the pump?I do not know the specific difference between type 1 and 2 other than the visual difference. The two gm vans I saw with remote reservoirs still had the canned ham reservoir on the pump. One had hydroboost, one didnt. The one with HB had a second line to the remote reservoir.
The SuperDuty hydroboost is a direct bolt-in for this truck, also for '80s and '90s Broncos. I just installed a Chevy hydroboost in my F350, I had to space it out about 2" to compensate for the longer pushrod, and pedal is still a bit too high. My booster is a bit sticky on the return stroke tho, so I put it a helper spring on the pedal, which is actually factory setup for the hydroboosted Chevy trucks. Also I had to install a spacer in the master cylinder's piston bore, as the vacuum booster pushrod sticks out further out than the hydroboost.
By the pump shape itself. 4 bolt holes in the face and a round boss about a 1/2" proud.^ I imagine that's what the pump looks like on the Safari/Astro remote reservoir setups...if I could ever get one off to see.
This may be a really stupid question, but how does one tell if a pump is a Saginaw, if not for the traditional canned ham reservoir? Is the bolt pattern the only clue? I imagine not all pumps are created equal...
Also, if I don't pull the hydroboost setup, then there's no compelling reason to do the Saginaw swap as long as my pump is healthy. I've already got the modified lines in place for the 4-bolt steering box, and I settled on an electric winch instead of hydraulic, so everything is coexisting happily at present.
Yes, I believe that is the reservoir, and the ones in the mid '90s only had the cap with short plastic dipstick; the later ones had a tube that fit onto and over the reservoir neck, then had a cap with a long metal dipstick. That tube was directly beside the compressor body. I'm unsure of the exact year breakdown, but Hell, just go look at them all.And the full-sized pickups and maybe even vans with the 5.0 and 5.7L engines could fit that category.The reservoir neck is offset, which might be what you're describing for added clearance.
Whoa, baby got neck! I'll be on the lookout for those now. A key element will be whether the tube/cap can rotate away from the compressor mount. The pictured configuration addresses reservoir cap access, but would interfere more with a York unless mounting it upright, which not every bay has room for. It seems like it would also interfere with our stock compressors, as that mount looks less offset.anyway, all this saginaw talk got me looking at S10s and blazers. All the ones I saw seemed to not have a remote reservoir, but a remote filler cap.
Is this the kind someone should get if they want to do a York OBA in the future?