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Low power! Sluggish up hills

7K views 11 replies 5 participants last post by  rustyxnails  
#1 ·
I've been reading through some of the other threads regarding low power issues. I've done some work on my Bronco, but I still haven't solved the problem.

First off, I'm driving a 1990 EB, 5.0 liter V8

Here is some of the work that's been done over the past few months:

-New plugs, wires, dist. cap
-New ground terminal and cable (though, a pretty cheap one...)
-New fuel pump and sending unit
-New fuel filter
-New fuel pressure regulator
-Installed K&N air filter
-Cleaned throttle body (and saw how gunky the intake manifold was as well! another problem for another day?)

Cleaning the throttle body and replacing the Fuel Pressure Regulator certainly helped. Before cleaning the TB, I was idling really poorly. That is no longer an issue.

Here's the problem: low power. The engine is revving up and moving the truck at 1st gear just fine. Once I start reaching higher speeds, performance is really poor. I took it for a trip recently and struggled on the freeway. I'd hang on to 55 to 60 mph (and it'd take forever to get there!), but any time there was an increase in the grade, my speeds would drop. I could barely keep a steady 45 mph going up through the mountain pass to Tahoe. It was almost embarrassing trying to drive the thing on the highway!

I understand that the Bronco isn't meant for freeway driving, but I feel that such a large engine should at least be able to charge up a hill better than mom's minivan.

Also, new issue since I've changed out the fuel pump and fuel filter: The smell of gasoline is present in the cab when driving at higher rpms. At least, I would notice it when driving at higher speeds.

What could it be? Probably poor fuel/air mixture? What more can I do? I put a bottle of fuel injector cleaner in the tank today before filling up. I'll try that a few more times and see what happens. Maybe I'll go as far as replacing the injectors entirely? Could there be a problem in the exhaust? How would I know?

I hope all the details have been helpful. Thanks for any tips and advice!
 
#2 ·
A bad O2 sensor will cause fuel/air mix issues, and you should also double-check your timing to make sure that it isn't out of spec. A clogged cat conv would probably rob a lot power too.

An easy check and fix is your throttle cable too. If it's original, it may have become stretched, and there may be a lot of play from when you start pressing the accelerator to when it actually begins to pull the cable. Remove the air tubes from the TB, and have someone step on the accelerator to WOT (engine off) to see how much the valve plates in the TB open up. You may find that they're not opening up nearly as much as they should.

I understand that the Bronco isn't meant for freeway driving, but I feel that such a large engine should at least be able to charge up a hill better than mom's minivan.
Not sure why you said this because Bronco's are driven on the freeways all the time. People used to buy them all the time for their day-to-day commuter vehicles when they were still being made, and that's what i use mine for. My rig easily hits speeds of 80-85mph, and can maintain speed/accelerate on hills.
 
#4 ·
Thanks VaMark!

I'll definitely follow up on those suggestions. It seems I may want to check the Throttle Position Sensor as well?

As for the freeway driving, for me at least, I could only hit 75 mph if I was cruising downhill. There is virtually no response when I'm pushing down on the gas and I'm already at 55-65 mph.

Now, if I've got a clogged cat, that's going to be some serious exhaust work, correct? Seeing how all those parts are welded together. Is there a way I can check for that at home? I'll look into it...
 
#11 ·
It probably wouldn't hurt to test the TPS, but I would think that you'd see different/additional symptoms if it was bad (abnormal idle, etc.). SeattleFSB has a really good thread about TPS testing/replacement.

Also, have you checked for vacuum leaks?

You mentioned that your upper intake plenum has a lot of carbon build up. Getting that cleaned out can really help too -especially if some of those internal channels have become severely restricted. I removed mine a few months ago, and just used some degreaser and a pressure washer to clean it out, but the best thing to do is take it somewhere to have it "hot tanked" (or the safe equivalent for aluminum).

Regarding the cat, one thing you can do is check it after you've driven it for a while to see if it's gotten red-hot. Yes, replacing it can be a decent amount of work, and if you're not good at welding (like me), you'll want to either get someone to weld the new one on for you, or use clamps.

I had used one of those thermal temp lasers to measure the temperature of the intake/outtake of my cat when I thought it may be clogged. At the time, the readings at the intake were higher than the outtake, and I thought that was an indication of a clogged cat, but further inspection showed that it was fine.

EDIT: Just want to reiterate the possible throttle cable issue because the symptoms that you describe sound like it could really be the cause of the problem. And like I said, it's an easy check/fix.
 
#6 ·
GAS SMELL in CAB with back glass up or down? Park the Bronco and double check fuel lines and filters etc.

Do a search for MLPS or neutral safety switch replacement. Are you certain your lose of power isn't transmission slip? Are the RPMs increasing but going no faster. then maybe it isn't power but trans issue.