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Dangerous rpm swings - I'm stumped (and my mechanic is too)

1.3K views 8 replies 6 participants last post by  fowdalla  
#1 ·
First, thanks for the noobie forum so noobs like me can post. I'm dealing with a potentially dangerous symptom and I can't figure it out. Nor can the mechanic who has done work for me for about a year and has done a good job until now.

I'm afraid I'm going to let my foot off the brake by accident and run into something.

Normal idle is about 600 - 700 rpm. One day in traffic it shot up to 2000 rpm and I had to step on the brake to prevent it from shooting into the intersection. About 20 minutes later, before I got home, it stopped.

Since then, the idle (and driving) is very irregular, going from 600 to a dangerous 1500 when stopped, without much rhyme or reason.

Symptoms (none of these are regular and very little behavior can be traced to hot or cold engine).

- Commonly (but not always) swings from 600 to 900 rpms in a regular vroom - pause - vroom pattern

- Commonly (but not always) idles regularly but high (1000 rpms) even when warm

- Commonly (but not always) stalls at startup or at intersections when engine is cold

- Commonly (but not always) swings mildly from 700 - 900 rpms. This is the least dangerous symptom but is highly annoying.

I replaced vacuum hoses and the idle control valve. I took it to the mechanic and he just did the same thing I did, with the same (non) results. I stopped buying gas at Costco.

I need to get this fixed and I'm willing to pay the money but I need to understand what's wrong. I'm completely stumped and the professional is too.

Anyone got any ideas?
 
#3 ·
Pull the codes and let us know what you come up with. Running a self test is not too hard once you learn how to, just search here as there are a couple good how-to threads.
 
#4 ·
Check your ECM as well. it is easy to do and free. look at the capacitors and make sure they are not popped. mine was and that was the first set of symptoms that i had. When it does it pop the hood and disconnect the IAC and see what it does.
 
#7 ·
i bet you've got a gasket that is failing somewhere in the topend. i put money on it being a vacuum leak. my 95 cavalier did the same thing for a bit until the gasket finally got sucked in and then it would idle at 4k rpm. threw a bunch of weird codes. see if the shop has one of those smoke machines. they hook it up to your intake and if there is a leak somewhere smoke will come out of it and lead you to the problem.

hope this helps.
 
#8 ·
Fixed!

Hi,

In the end I got it figured out -- bad gasket on the intake manifold. Replaced the TPS also and it runs low and sweet now.

Thanks fatdan460!