Don't know how you feel about body lifts, but a couple inches should give you plenty of clearance.

 

If it just needs an inch or so in a few spots you can consider some hammer massaging.

 

Anyone know if Archer is around? Or how he may have done it?

 

After talking with my dad for a while he said that the engine is too high up in the engine compartment... (?) Not sure if its the mounts, the perches, or anything else. What he is guessing is that if the engine were to sit lower, there wouldn't be a clearance issue. I asked how much clearance it needed, and he said more than a couple inches, so the body lift would be out of the question. I think it is something else that is causing this. Kinda doing a little research on the swap, it doesn't seem like anyone had this kind of a clearance issue.

 

How are the body mounts? It may be possible that the whole body has shifted a bit on the frame if the mounts are bad.

 

He said the body mounts are good. Everything looks good, so this is very confusing, and frustrating at the same time.

 

let me know what you have to do to fix it. i was given a nv4500 and i was thinking about installing it but if your having problems id like to know what im gonn run into.

 

Are there differences between the Bronco frame perches and F-series perches that had 460s? This is the only thing I can think of right now. Maybe the frame perches on a 79 Bronco with a 351M are taller than those of an F-series with a 460? Just a thought.

 

Google "North Country Specialties" and read up on 460 swap info

 

Second that.

 

The only thing I don't have that he has listed is his perches, and the insulator mounts. I currently have the heavy duty 460 mounts from JBG on stock perches.

 

This is how the engine is sitting in my truck right now:

Looking at other pictures of 460 installs, mine does look like it is sitting pretty damn high. Higher than others anyway. Still not really seeing what is going on with it. I'm sure once this is figured out, the NV4500 will not be posing such an issue.

 

Might have figured something out...

When I was going through my pictures of the engine build, something just happened to catch my eye...I was looking at the JBG motor mounts picture:

Notice how they are pointing down...

Here is the picture that caught my eye:

The center piece is pointing up. They are bolted on right, it just looks like the center piece needs to be flipped around. I'm not sure if this is the exact problem or not, but I figure to at least correct this, and see where it goes.

 

No luck there either. When my dad installed the engine, he flipped the center piece back over to sit in right...

Ugh! Back to square one.

 

Going a different route...going to get InfoFord's engine perches, and go with the 83-97 mounts. I just need to find the plate that goes between the mounts and the engines, and the junk yards around here are picked dry. Anyone have an extra set laying around?

 

Have you called and talk to the guys at JBG yet?

You know, those guys were/are "junk yard guys".
(you can sense that in their returns policy LOL

If anyone could help you, it'd be them since it's their
product you're having trouble with and they'll just know
lots of stuff about swaps too, I figure?

My vote is on the perches... "wrong engine perches".

"Ford never learned how to make the same part twice "
- my Chevy buddies

Alvin in AZ
ps- For you, and others with large pictures, go through
using the edit option and shorten the line length using
the enter/return button.
pp- I do it anyway to make it easier for the reader...
"one person writes it and a hundred have to read it"

 

Found some of the stamped plates today! Only 20 bucks, and in great shape! Got the mounts as well, just need the perches.

Alvin, I haven't tried calling JBG or emailing either. Those mounts are the only thing I've had an issue with, (I've purchased so much stuff from them!!) I am going to go the InfoFord route with the perches and everything and end up just selling the JBG mounts for probably $100 or so shipped. Hopefully this all works out, and it will just be another big step to getting my Bronco on the road.

 

judging from your pictures I can't really tell that your engine is as high as you are stating and my perches sets the engine correct spot and judging from what you post I doubt it is going to give you a 2" drop it might move the engine forward a little and lower it a bit from what you have.

My perches will at least give you a good base line to go from but you may still need to do mods to get the transmission to go in never tried with the NV4500 conversion so can’t say what will get in the way
I would recommend installing the radiator and shroud with fan so you can keep the fan centered in the shroud as you prolly going to have to make your own transmission mount.

Plus my perches are intended to use OEM truck manifolds so there is no guarantee of header fitment
Lowering and moving the engine may cause clearance issues with the headers
Not trying to talk out of buying my perches just giving a heads up that it may not be your cure all.
They will only set the engine correctly in the hole is all, they will do nothing more

 

No issues. I will work with what you've got and go from there.

 

keep us posted on how everything went in!

 

Will do. I gotta get the perches shipped out first. Probably won't go in until next Monday.

 

Alright, sorry for the long wait, but I do have an update...The engine is in, the tranny is bolted up, and transfer case is bolted in as well. Tomorrow we'll be welding in a chunk of steel as a custom crossmember, then finishing up bolting in the transfer case mount. After that, we will be towing the bronco to the driveshaft shop so they can make custom length shafts. We had to shave about 1/4" off the passenger side perch from InfoFord to fit the passenger side header. Everything goes together really good, and I will try to get some sort of a writeup/pictures updated soon.

 

Thanks man.