Hi all,
I recently finished my Thunderbird caliper install. I went through a few different how-to's, and felt that they all left out a few bits and pieces here and there that I had to research. So I thought I'd share my build and own how-to.
I'm working on a 1985 Bronco with the stock front brakes and TTB. The brakes were "good enough" but I was wanting something a little more without fully going to rear discs. I have 32" BFO KO2 tires and while they're nowhere near as big as some tires people put on, they're a bit heavier than the stock setup was ever designed for. On top of that, when I'm camping and loaded down with camping gear and 5 people and several dogs.... the Bronco can get pretty heavy.
Even with day-to-day driving, the brakes were good, but I would often find that after driving the Bronco for a few weeks and then getting in another car, I'd keep hitting the brakes and lurching the car, throwing everyone forward like a teenager just learning to drive. I really wanted the brakes to be much more like a modern vehicle in their stopping power.
The T-Bird caliper upgrade seemed like just the way to go. They fit right onto the TTB up until a certain year (not 100% sure which year is the cutoff), and have quite a bit larger piston. The single piston has more surface area than the dual piston that came in the larger f-series trucks. So they have some good stopping power.
After the install was complete and the new hardware was broken in, I have to say that the improvement was well worth it. Braking power is improved by a good 15 - 20%, and if I press the brakes hard enough, I'm thrown forward into the seat belt. It stops!
The biggest issue with this mod is that the t-bird calipers, while a direct swap, flip the sides that the bleeder valve and hose connect to. So, now the bleeder valve points outward, and the brake hose is up against the steering knuckle. There just isn't room to get the hose onto the caliper without modification, so some of the material on the knuckle needs to be ground away.
Then, due to the increase in fluid, a larger master cylinder up front and slave cylinders on the rear are required.
For starters, here is my shopping list:
Front Calipers (right/left)
Raybestos FRC 4083 / FRC 4084
Banjo bolts (7/16")
Crown Automotive J3225703
Copper Crush Washers
F-350 master cylinder with 1.250" bore
ACDelco 19176066
F-350 rear drum slave cylinders
Raybestos WC370042 / WC370043
Steel braided brake lines
www.crownperformance.com
I have no idea why those say 1980-1981 and 1988. They worked just fine on my 85.
Note that these are for 0" of lift, which mine has. They have some for lifts on the site as well.
I also bought an assortment of brake line fittings, since a lot of them will need to be cut off and swapped.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015YGRHXM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00
As such, you will also need a brake line flaring tool to cut off the brake line ends and swap on new ones.
Make sure it does double flare. I got mine on amazon.
The first step is to drill out the hoses. The Bronco uses a 3/8" banjo bolt whereas the T-Bird calipers use a 7/16". A drill press would make this a whole lot easier, but I don't have one. I just snugged it down in a vice and used a hand drill. I stepped it up in several sizes (3/8", 25/64", 13/32", 27/64",7/16"). This kept it from "biting" too hard and digging in. Take your time, so you don't mess up the hoses.
Use a small dremel tool, or something similar, to clean up the ridge around the hole, so that it doesn't keep the crush washer from seating.
Next step is to modify the calipers. The T-birds have a recessed hole, whereas the Bronco ones do not. So, the raised ridge around the hole will need to be ground down.
Take your time so that you do NOT nick the mating surface. You just want to clear an area for the hose end to sit flush. I came in at an angle so that I could only remove material and couldn't hit the surface.
The calipers are now ready to go.
I recently finished my Thunderbird caliper install. I went through a few different how-to's, and felt that they all left out a few bits and pieces here and there that I had to research. So I thought I'd share my build and own how-to.
I'm working on a 1985 Bronco with the stock front brakes and TTB. The brakes were "good enough" but I was wanting something a little more without fully going to rear discs. I have 32" BFO KO2 tires and while they're nowhere near as big as some tires people put on, they're a bit heavier than the stock setup was ever designed for. On top of that, when I'm camping and loaded down with camping gear and 5 people and several dogs.... the Bronco can get pretty heavy.
Even with day-to-day driving, the brakes were good, but I would often find that after driving the Bronco for a few weeks and then getting in another car, I'd keep hitting the brakes and lurching the car, throwing everyone forward like a teenager just learning to drive. I really wanted the brakes to be much more like a modern vehicle in their stopping power.
The T-Bird caliper upgrade seemed like just the way to go. They fit right onto the TTB up until a certain year (not 100% sure which year is the cutoff), and have quite a bit larger piston. The single piston has more surface area than the dual piston that came in the larger f-series trucks. So they have some good stopping power.
After the install was complete and the new hardware was broken in, I have to say that the improvement was well worth it. Braking power is improved by a good 15 - 20%, and if I press the brakes hard enough, I'm thrown forward into the seat belt. It stops!
The biggest issue with this mod is that the t-bird calipers, while a direct swap, flip the sides that the bleeder valve and hose connect to. So, now the bleeder valve points outward, and the brake hose is up against the steering knuckle. There just isn't room to get the hose onto the caliper without modification, so some of the material on the knuckle needs to be ground away.
Then, due to the increase in fluid, a larger master cylinder up front and slave cylinders on the rear are required.
For starters, here is my shopping list:
Front Calipers (right/left)
Raybestos FRC 4083 / FRC 4084
Banjo bolts (7/16")
Crown Automotive J3225703
Copper Crush Washers
F-350 master cylinder with 1.250" bore
ACDelco 19176066
F-350 rear drum slave cylinders
Raybestos WC370042 / WC370043
Steel braided brake lines

1980-1981 and 1988 Ford Bronco 4WD 0"-3" Lift - Stainless Steel Brake Line Kit
Crown Performance Ford Bronco 4WD Stainless Steel Brake Lines

I have no idea why those say 1980-1981 and 1988. They worked just fine on my 85.
Note that these are for 0" of lift, which mine has. They have some for lifts on the site as well.
I also bought an assortment of brake line fittings, since a lot of them will need to be cut off and swapped.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015YGRHXM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00
As such, you will also need a brake line flaring tool to cut off the brake line ends and swap on new ones.
Make sure it does double flare. I got mine on amazon.
The first step is to drill out the hoses. The Bronco uses a 3/8" banjo bolt whereas the T-Bird calipers use a 7/16". A drill press would make this a whole lot easier, but I don't have one. I just snugged it down in a vice and used a hand drill. I stepped it up in several sizes (3/8", 25/64", 13/32", 27/64",7/16"). This kept it from "biting" too hard and digging in. Take your time, so you don't mess up the hoses.
Use a small dremel tool, or something similar, to clean up the ridge around the hole, so that it doesn't keep the crush washer from seating.
Next step is to modify the calipers. The T-birds have a recessed hole, whereas the Bronco ones do not. So, the raised ridge around the hole will need to be ground down.
Take your time so that you do NOT nick the mating surface. You just want to clear an area for the hose end to sit flush. I came in at an angle so that I could only remove material and couldn't hit the surface.
The calipers are now ready to go.