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Replace Plastic Vacuum Hoses with Rubber should cover most 87-96 V8s (302\351)

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I was wondering to see how the silicone hoses are holding up also since this thread is a couple years old.

Anyone else besides booba have anything to report on the longevity of the silicone vacuum hoses?
yo Joe,
My 96, bought new still have original vacuum hoses;
"...The vacuum hoses used in the passenger compartment control circuit are constructed from PVC plastic material. The vacuum hoses used in the engine compartment are constructed of Hytrel. Because of the materials used, the vacuum hoses should never be pinched off during diagnosis to locate a leak. Use Rotunda Vacuum Tester 014-R1054 or equivalent to locate vacuum leaks. A wood golf tee can be used as a plug when it is necessary to plug one end of a vacuum hose for leak test purposes..."
Source: by Ford

1996 Bronco/F-Series Workshop Manual
Mini-Tube Vacuum Hose Service
https://www.motorcraftservice.com/

easure the length of the damaged area of the mini-tube vacuum hose.

2.
Cut a piece of standard 3mm (1/8-inch) ID vacuum hose approximately 25mm (1 inch) longer than the damaged area of the mini-tube vacuum hose.

3.
Cut the mini-tube vacuum hose on each side of the damaged area and remove damaged portion of the mini-tube vacuum hose.

4.
Dip the mini-tube hose ends in Tetra Hydro Furan (THF) or Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK). Either of these solvents will act as a sealer for the repair of the mini-tube vacuum hose.

5.
Insert the ends of the mini-tube vacuum hose approximately 9mm (3/8 inch) into the ends of the standard 3 mm (1/8-inch) ID replacement vacuum hose.

6.
Shake the service joint after assembly to make sure solvent is dispersed and vacuum line is not blocked internally.

7.
Test system for a vacuum leak in area serviced.

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Vacuum Line (Hose), Mini-Tube Damage Repair in a 92
Source: by JohnMcD348 at
How I fixed my A/C Vac Leak
 
Seattle FSB,
Where did you order your blue silicone tubing from?
I have will have to replace my vacuum lines as well.
How effective has you modifications has been so far?
Yo John,
Seattle wrote in Booba's Replace Plastic Vacuum Hoses with Rubber @ http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum...om/forum/23-technical-write-ups/192382-replace-plastic-vacuum-hoses-rubber.html

"Get the Silicone Boost/Vacuum Hose Engine Dress Up Kit and then an additional 10' of 4mm vacuum hose in the color of your choice. I used wire loom to protect the hose through the Intake Manifold, to the Diverter Valve and where it rubs on the Intake to the EVP. "
Silicone Boost/Vacuum Hose
 
Yo joeluis736,
Yes, delete all, but read;
"Remove the EGR for a cleaner look and cooler intake air. The EGR system adds heat and carbon deposits to the intake manifold. EGR Valve Position Sensor Eliminators send a 0.50volt CLOSED EGR signal to the computer. The computer then knows the EGR is permanently closed. Keeps the annoying CHECK ENGINE light OFF, and more importantly keeps the engine running smoothly. Guaranteed to work on any 1986-93 5.0L Mustang! Also works on most 1986-95 Ford that uses the Light Gray EGR valve position sensor; which has a closed reading of 0.24 – 0.67 volts. Without this the computer will assume the EGR is stuck open when removed, causing a rough running engine. We can't guarantee these will work on every 1986-95 Ford, but the only other option is a custom chip for the computer, which typically costs $350 or more. While the only option for 1996 and newer Fords is a custom tuned chip for the computer."

Disconnect EGR Valve Position sensor (EVP), and inspect the harness connector. Make sure it’s free of corrosion and still has dielectric grease on the terminals.
Plug the Eliminator into the EGR Valve Position sensor (EVP) harness connector.
Zip tie the eliminator to the engine to protect it from vibration.
This product only eliminates the EGR electrically. Please take the time to remove and cap off vacuum lines. If you are leaving the EGR valve on the intake confirm that it is fully closed. Aleaky EGR will cause more engine problems. It’s best to remove the EGR spacer, or put a block off plate over the opening.
When performing computer Self-Test after installing this kit it is normal to get code:
33 / 332 EGR valve opening not detected.
The computer is acknowledging that the EGR is permanently closed. This is your desired result. However if you get the following codes:
31 / 327 - EVP circuit failed below the closed EGR limit of 0.24 volts
32 / 328 - EVP circuit failed below the closed EGR limit of 0.24 volts
34 / 334 - EVP circuit failed above the closed EGR limit of 0.67 volts
35 / 337 - EVP circuit failed above the open EGR limit of 4.81 volts
Check your connection again; make sure there is no resistance in the harness.
NOTE: This device is not intended for pollution controlled vehicles. Local, State, and Federal laws may prohibit the removal or disabling any emission control device on any emission applicable vehicle. in Eliminator Installation Manual Source: by Ryan M (Fireguy50) Wayback Machine

Removal; "...What you need to do is electrically plug in the TAB and TAD solenoids but remove the vacuum lines, then all the air injection plumbing and valves can be removed and the heads plugged. The EGR is a seperate system from the Thermactor and the computer treats it very differently, it also helps increase milage and power so it's a good idea to keep it anyway. If you have the DPFE system there is no way to bypass it without the computer knowing and throwing a code so you may as well keep it intact. you'll get codes if you remove the solenoids, the easiest way to avoid this is to just leave them plugged in. The TAB and TAD you could fake out pretty easy, but even the old EGR system can't be faked because the computer both commands valve movement and watches for feedback to confirm it happened, so a dummy resistor won't cut it.
Source: by Conanski

Ryan also sold;
Actuator Eliminator Resistor $2.00 each
75 ohm 3watt Resistors can also be used to eliminate the EVR, CANP, TAB & TAD solenoids.

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http://web.archive.org/web/20070221131457im_/http://rjminjectiontech.com/images/egr-plate.jpg
EGR Eliminator Plate $40.00

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EGR Eliminator 2 $20.00
Comes with terminals ready to be inserted into the harness near the computer. Can be hidden near the computer, for a cleaner look!
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NOTE: This device is not intended for pollution controlled vehicles. Local, State, and Federal laws may prohibit the removal or disabling any emission control device such as the EGR system.
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EGR Do it yourself MIL Eliminator
You will need to go to radio shack and purchase 3 resistors, two 3.9k ohm 1/2 watt resistor& one 390 ohm k1/2 watt resistor. See attached diagram
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181977
 
Yo Pablo,
Welcome!

Timing could be retarded. There could be a lean mixture.
Inspect for broken vacuum lines, and be sure your fuel pressure regulator isn't ruptured; pull the vacuum line off of it, and make sure fuel isn't present or any aroma thereof in that line.
You may also have a clogged catalytic converter.
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See my Vacuum leak test in post #11@ See my Vacuum leak test in post #11

Try a Self Test for Diagnostic Trouble Codes by my pal, BroncoJoe19 @ Code Reader.....

PCM stores the Self-Test program in permanent memory. When activated, Self-Test checks the EEC system by testing memory integrity and processing capability, and verifies that various sensors and actuators are connected and operating properly.

Check all engine vacuum hoses for damage, leaks, cracks, blockage, proper routing, etc.

The engine temperature must be greater than 50° F for the Key On Engine Off (KOEO) Self-Test and greater than 180° F for the Key On Engine Running (KOER) Self-Test. Run it around to heat the engine up and shift thru all gears including Reverse. Make sure A/C is off and transmission is in Park (automatic); or in Neutral for a Manual and; release clutch. Then turn off engine, all accessories/lights (close driver's door) , etc.

Do KOEO test First. Post Code(s) here according to KOEO and KOER.

A helper can assist you by counting the codes. Some use their smart phones to record them.

BEWARE OF FAN, BELTS, PULLEYS, HOT HOSES, IGNITION HIGH TENSION WIRES, AND ENGINE COMPONENTSâš 

Or ask local mom and dad parts stores if they will test it for you.

Or purchase a coder reader such as Equus 3145 Innova OBD I Code Reader for Ford EEC IV Engines at Walmart & most parts stores.
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Here are the 1989 Ford Bronco EVTM, Emissions (yellowish/red book cover) & Pre-Delivery Manuals, Partial via mrnewland1 in Google Drive @
1989 Service manual - Google Drive
Slow scrolling, so download for faster viewing and to see the table of contents, the search feature, etc.

Haynes Red Manual for 80-95 Bronco & F Series @ Hanes guide 80-96 bko f series.pdf found by BroncMom

1989 Ford Bronco Dealer Brochure

1989 Bronco Lubricant Specifications by Ford via Gary

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Old thread, I know. But do you remember the size and amount of hose was required?
Yo Shane, Booba used
"Approximately 20' of vacuum hose (5\32")
2 Vacuum T's

Seattle FSB wrote:
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Al
 
Hello, I'm a disabled veteran here in Phoenix AZ. I got an 1994 F150 XLT 4x4 5.0L from Florida last week from a relative that just had the truck sitting idle...When I got it in Phoenix I noticed the vacuum lines were either clipped and unplugged and the other plastic lines were mostly leaking and crumbling..The big mistake I made is just removing all the lines including the TAD and TAB without taking a photo on their routing thinking I could just order new harnesses and lines..Boy was I wrong..I'm not able to do the fix you aptly described on replacing all lines...Do you know anyone in the Phoenix area that can do this ..Thanks Ralph
Yo Ralph,
Welcome and Than You for Serving!
You can follow Booba's and Seattle FSB's path and by using following from former member Steve83:
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"NOT SHOWN: brake booster hose & check valve, or pre-'93 vacuum cruise servo
To find leaks, use ~3' of garden hose or a mechanic's stethoscope:
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Underhood sticker;
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Also, see my Vacuum leak test in post #11 @ Help with dtc codes and idle
It has quite a few pics to guide you. Can help with more info and pics!
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ASAP, find out if speed control recall work, if equipped was completed. If you still have concerns about Recalls, please contact the Ford Customer Relationship Center:
US: 800-392-3673 | CA: 800-565-3673
Note: 3673 spells "FORD" on phone keys
For the hearing- or speech-impaired: Please contact the Telecommunication Relay Service by dialing 71
... have VIN ready.
"Summary: ON CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS, PASSENGER VEHICLES, SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, AND MOTOR HOMES CHASSIS, THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH MAY, UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS, LEAK INTERNALLY AND THEN OVERHEAT, SMOKE, OR BURN. THIS COULD RESULT IN AN UNDERHOOD FIRE."
See this guide by jowens1126 to confirm recall status @ 93 & 94-96 Cruise Control Recalls Repair
Note that the 93 recall is different than 94-96.

1994 Dealer Brochure by Ford via Dezo's Garage @ https://www.xr793.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/1994-Ford-F-Series.pdf

Haynes Red Manual for 80-95 Bronco & F Series @ Hanes guide 80-96 bko f series.pdf

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