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96 Bronco 4bt Cummins

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So I finally decided to commit and do the swap. This is my story.
Updated: 20230206

Wot 'n tarnation?
Yes it's long, no one likes scrolling through walls of text, and I'm sorry. But hear me out-
I want to make all my build information as transparent, organized, and centralized as possible. It was way too damn hard to find what I've put together from research in the many corners of the internet, phone calls to vendors, and visits to fabrication shops for how many times this kind of swap has been done. So I'm trying to frontload the pain and make it as easy as possible for anyone in the future that may want to do this swap, and may be coming from a small knowledgebase like me.​
I enlisted the help of a local fabrication shop who specializes in high-end, hotrod, project, and restoration builds.​


Build Goals:
  • Must be daily driveable.
  • Must be reliable.
  • Must have the same or better power as the 351w.
  • Improved MPG if possible.
  • Complete the job with a $15k budget.
    • I don't want to have to do anything but regular maintenance for several years, so the budget was loose to ensure quality parts and work.
  • Minimal downtime - it's my daily after all.
    • Despite all the planning and research, this swap took a year, because nothing goes to plan.
  • Sate my desire for a new truck.
  • Stick with bolt ons as much as possible.
    • I'm not a welder, fabricator, or machinist. I'd like to be able to work on it myself going forward.

The Plan:
The technical stuff, the research, and all the stuff I intend to touch, modify, replace, or need to check for in the course of this build. Being that I want this to be a new upgrade rather than patching and fixing something existing, I'm okay with a larger budget on this.​
Engine:
I knew I wanted a 4bt that was going to be able to produce around 200hp since the 351w is supposed to put out around 210hp @ 3,600 and 325lb-ft @ 2,600 rpm [link]. I was a lot less concerned about the correlating torque numbers on the 4bt since diesels in general produce a lot more torque at lower rpms.​
I contacted the Big Bear Engine Company in Colorado [link] quite a bit for information on 4bt's. Turns out there are a ton of them out there, mostly for machinery like woodchippers or generators, but sometimes for bread trucks, and they all vary quite a bit in power output depending on the application. The best way to eyeball a 4bt for what kind of power it will produce is by the Critical Parts List (CPL) number. Also, if you are able to get the engine's serial number, call your local Cummins shop and they should be able to decode it for you and provide a configuration sheet. This will give you an idea of exactly what your 4bt is composed of including the fuel pump and turbo type.​
It looks like a vast majority of 4bt's out there are in the 105-130hp range. More research told me that is largely dependent on the kind of cooling, aspiration (turbo or non-turbo), and fuel pump in use. There are some running a little hotter, but they're really hard to find, moreso than the one I got, and more expensive. I was looking to spend $4k max on a low mileage 4bt. And I found it... on Craigslist. It was super shady but worked out in the end.​
In order to make 200hp, which I figure should get me around 500lb-ft tq, I'd need to upgrade and tweak certain parts. Research told me the best fuel pump for upgrade-ability was a ppump; more specifically, a P7100 pump (made by Bosch), rather than a VE rotary pump, which is more limited in how much fuel can be pushed through it. Extremely few 4bt's received a ppump, I found. I'd also want a 4bt with an HX30 (made by Borg Warner), an HE221, or TD04HL-19T turbo. I watched a couple of videos of people having trouble getting an HX35, which came on the 6 cylinder 12 valve 6bt's, to spool up with bolt ons, so I wasn't going that route. Finally, to make the power I wanted (which is well within this configuration's abilities) I'd have to make a few mostly bolt-on upgrades according to the 4btswaps forum [link]. Those are:​
  • HX30 turbo
  • Wastegate set to ~22psi
  • Intercooler installed
  • A PPump flowing 130cc, or 1000 shots
  • 3200+rpm governer spring
I used some CPL decoders and none seemed to give any meaningful information on CPL's unless they were in the 0-1000 range, and the engines in that range didn't come with the turbo or fuel pump I wanted. After searching online in a lot of places and correlating tidbits of information, I found out that a 4bt CPL#1839 came with an HX30 turbo, a P7100 pump, and produced 130hp stock. That's the one I looked for. It took me a couple of months, but eventually one popped up a couple of states away. I made an offer and picked it up that same weekend for $3,500. Ran when pulled and has ~37k miles.​
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|                                   ReCon Engine Information                                  |
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|Part Number    -   DR1683RX                       |Build Date                -   01-NOV-2004 |
|Description    -   ENG 4BTA 3.9 B 130@2300 P7100  |Fuel Pump Type            -   P7100       |
|Family         -   4b                             |Fuel Type                 -   DIESEL      |
|Liters         -   3.9l                           |Fuel Solenoid Voltage     -   12V         |
|Application    -   AUTOMOTIVE                     |Fuel Pump Governer Type   -   RQVK        |
|CPL            -   1839                           |Turbo Location            -   LMRO        |
|Aspiration     -   JACKET WATER AFTER C           |Oil Pan                   -   REAR        |
|Configuration  -   D383022BX02                    |Air Compressor            -   N/A         |
|Rated HP@RPM   -   130@2300 RPM                   |Vibration Damper          -   N/A         |
|Peak Torque    -   327@1700                       |PTO Location              -   N/A         |
|Torque Rise    -   35.29%                         |Paint Color               -   BEIGE       |
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Transmission:
I decided to stick with my E4OD and upgrade it with 4R100 steel internals to handle the increase in power. This will also require an aftermarket transmission controller. DCS has used and recommends the [US Shift Quick 4 Transmission Control System].​
From all of the reading I've done, if you don't plan to increase the power of a 4bt, you can get away with using the stock e4od transmission in this bronco. It is good for an absolute max of around 500lb-ft of torque [link] [link]. Mine has 250k miles on it without a rebuild and, though I haven't abused it, I am trying to increase the power on the 4bt from 130hp to 200hp (~500lb-ft). So, because it's probably tired and needs a little love, I researched if I should get a new transmission or stick with mine and rebuild it.​
The ZF5 would have been nice and I seriously thought about it. That is the manual transmission offered for the 92-98 manual ford trucks. I love manual vehicles and the idea of having a vehicle that can run mechanically without electronics is very attractive to me. However, I live in the DC, Maryland, Virginia (DMV) area and traffic is a bitch. I have a motorcycle and a manual car, and I don't like feeling like my leg is going to fall off. So I decided to stick with an auto (because daily). But is there an automatic transmission that's mechanical?​
The E4OD transmission is allegedly mechanically controlled from the 1-3rd gears, and overdrive is electronically controlled [link]. That was a pretty big selling point for me, and since I already have an E4OD, I may as well stick with it. A common upgrade to the E4OD's is to have the aluminum internals replaced with the 4R100's steel internals. That upgrade will make the torque tolerance a lot better at around 1,000lb-ft and is a simple upgrade in that the two transmissions are virtually the same [link]. The E4OD was offered in the 92-98 automatic Ford trucks, and the 4R100 was offered in the 99-2003 ford diesel trucks. I will need an aftermarket Transmission Control Module (TCM), though, as the factory one can't be re-flashed or modified to accommodate the swap reliably or simply [link].​
Some additional very useful information in my calculations were these [E4OD Transmission Specs] and these [E4OD Torque Specs].​
The gentleman working to upgrade the E4OD let me know it'd be a good idea to grab a [Mag-Hytec] pan for a little better cooling and increased fluid capacity in addition to still running my factory transmission cooler. I figure more cooling is better, so I'll go that route. It'll increase the fluid capacity from the factory 17-18qts to ~22-24qts. Bonus, this also adds a better place to put the transmission temperature sensor. Since the E4OD didn't come with a temp sensor from the factory, a common place to put one is in the pressure test port on these transmissions. With the Mag-Hytec pan, it comes with a port tapped into it already. He also used a Transgo kit to do the rebuild and left the following notes of what was done on the invoice:​
REBUILD TRANSMISSION. UPGRADES INCLUDE, STEEL OD PLANET, 6 PINION STEEL FRONT AND REAR PLANETS, TRANSGO TUGGER SHIFT KIT, LOW REVERSE CLUTCHES, STEELS, LOW HOUSING AND COMPLETE SPRAG, 1 PIECE CASE BUSHING, STEEL ACCUMULATOR VALVES AND DUAL CLUTCH TORQUE CONVERTER. ALL CLUTCHES, STEELS BEARINGS BUSHINGS, SPRAGS, SEALS ARE REPLACED ALSO.​
Driveshaft, Axles, Suspension:
I will be using the stock axles, driveshaft, and suspension.​
I used [The Grimm Jeeper] to get an idea of how hard the 4bt will be working to move the Bronco. If I plug in the numbers (Ford E4OD transmission, Borg Warner 1356 transfer case, 3.55 axle gear ratio, and 32" tires) it tells me my RPMs will be 1853@70mph, which is a good cruising speed to me. Based on this, I decided not to do any re-gearing just yet. That'll be another later build along with suspension. Based on the power output of the 351w, I don't think the gearing or driveshafts will need upgrading just yet.​
Intake System:
Intake is one of the systems I figured would need a lot of customization. The shop and I agreed to try out some titanium (because why not?) charge pipes to and from the banks intercooler and aluminum for the intake. The intercooler is specifically for the 96 7.3l Powerstroke since I have the core support and radiator for the same.​
I used a universal filter that fit on the end of the 2.5" intake piping and angled it to be right behind the radiator.​
Fuel System:
In the interest of longevity, and since the tank would have to be dropped anyhow to get the fuel pump out at the very least, I decided to go with a replacement plastic tank from Bronco Graveyard. They gave me contact info for the manufacturer and I verified with them that the tank would be good for diesel fuel. They confirmed it would be as it's the same plastic they use in their diesel applications. I know this tank won't be as rigid, but it also won't rust. And to help with the rigidity factor, I contacted Desolate Motorsports for their aluminum skid plate. It has a little bit better coverage and also won't rust.​
The sending unit I hadn't planned to replace, but it was misplaced so I got one anyhow. Fortunately those can be acquired from Bronco Graveyard without fuel pumps attached. The shop will add the in-tank pickup lines and a fuel sock to complete the application.​
I did not upgrade the mechanical lift pump since I'm not drastically improving fuel flow. I decided against larger injectors, but did upgrade the fuel delivery valves in the interest of a little bit more power without sacrificing my fuel economy. I'm also leaning towards keeping things more mechanical than having a bunch of electrical systems.​
I'm also went with an AFC live tuning system from Power Driven Diesel since I commute a lot and go from sea level to higher elevation semi-frequently. This allows me to adjust fuel/air on the fly from in the cab and adjust smoke output to a degree as well.​
Someone mentioned I might consider a fuel/air separator. I figure this can be a future upgrade, but the engine didn't previously run with it and I don't think it would need it now. This build is emptying my pocketbook quickly, so it'll be a future me problem. If I do, I was looking at something like [this] Airdog 150 separator.​
Gauges and Dash Cluster:
I want to be able to utilize my factory dash cluster as much as possible. To monitor some of the important things, I'll also need to add some in a clean fashion. I'm not big on electronic displays that require a toggle to see different sensors and their measurements, and being that it's an older truck I want to keep it sort of era-correct.​
I used the factory sending unit so the fuel senses correctly. To keep my tachometer working, I used the tachometer kit that Diesel Conversion Specialists offers for the 4bt. The engine will only rev to 3k as I had a 3k governor spring assembly installed. Because of this and the alleged modularity of the OBS dash cluster, I played around with the idea of getting the OBS Powerstroke tachometer, but it was going to require more work than plug and play, so I'll just stick with the Bronco's. I'll continue to use the dummy gauge in the factory gauge cluster for engine temperature as well. I did get the plastic cover over the fuel gauge from a Powerstroke of the same era and put it on my Bronco cluster so it says "Diesel Only".​
I initially got the medium mocha 3 gauge pod from GlowShift, then decided I wanted one more gauge, returned it, and got the 4 gauge pod. They only offer the 4 gauge in black. After some research, I found someone [here] talking about SEM's Medium Prairie Tan matching up pretty closely. Using some vinyl adhesion promoter and that paint, the pod looks almost identical to my interior. I'm sure the variation is just due to age and UV exposure over time. The gauges going in this pod are oil pressure, boost, transmission temperature, and exhaust gas temperature (EGT). The gauges I got from GlowShift are black and backlit green to try to match the factory dash lighting.​
Power Steering System:
Fortunately, the engine came with a power steering pump. However, it wouldn't work if I added a mechanical vacuum pump. The reservoir neck to fill the pump with fluid would point more directly upward, which wouldn't be accessible or usable due to the p7100 being mounted above it and blocking it. A lot of research revealed using an old 90's GM Astro van power steering pump reservoir over the top of a dodge power steering pump. The reservoir fill neck angles out almost 45 degrees and wouldn't get in the way. That would take a little bit of junkyard diving work.​
I went with a PSC power steering solution for the 6bt's as shown in my parts list. It uses a remote reservoir, so that got mounted elsewhere near the brake booster. The power steering pump clears the fuel pump and works fantastic, much better than the old Ford one. I did have to order an extra oil line and fitting to get oil from the block to the pump, also in the parts list.​
Vacuum Pump System:
Vacuum is needed to operate both the AC switches and the brakes, making them power brakes. Because of that, vacuum is required in this swap. There were two options for creating vacuum, either install an electrically operated or a mechanically operated vacuum pump.​
An electric vacuum pump will need lines run to the battery to operate it. I didn't research this too much, but I imagine they are probably always on unless more wiring is done to integrate the circuit with the brake or a switch to activate it when needed. I read a post about someone who did integrate the circuit with the brake, but if you want AC that probably isn't very advantageous. In the Bronco, the AC controls are vacuum operated.​
I'm going with a mechanical vacuum pump. My 4bt didn't come with one, so I had to figure out how to add one that would operate with the power steering as well. Turns out the 6bt vacuum pump timing-gear-driven and fits under the fuel pump where the power steering pump was. The power steering pump mounts to the end of the vacuum pump and is also gear driven.​
Exhaust:
The shop and I decided 3 inch stainless exhaust would work out the best. I went with a four inch tip for it as well. The 3 inch exhaust was hard to clear between the transmission and firewall, over the rear axle, and along the side of the fuel tank. The shop is awesome and made it all work out, though. The outlet isn't quite 3 inches on the HX30w we found out, and the my turbo didn't come with a needed downpipe flange vband kit I sourced from CustomFabShop.com. That granted a 3" downpipe outlet.​

Cooling:
Even though I didn't need to, I decided to go with a big cooling refit. I wanted the cooling of a Powerstroke diesel of the same era. So I swapped out the radiator support from the Bronco with an F350's of the same year. Because of this, I used a Mishimoto aluminum 7.3l radiator, a Mishimoto aluminum 7.3l transmission cooler, a 7.3l Banks Intercooler, custom FF Dynamics electric fans, and a custom-fabbed fan shroud by the shop. This did require lengthening the hood-release mechanism, but that only involved welding in a little material to elongate it. The hood-release works as factory.​

Electrical:
I wanted to make sure that I had plenty of storage and redundancy for electrical, just in case, so I installed the BroncoAir dual-battery solution that uses a solenoid between the batteries to isolate each. A switch in the cab allows me to engage both if needed. This helps in really cold weather if the heater block isn't hooked up. Both batteries provide plenty of cold-crank amps to start the engine.​

Interior:
The interior is getting a ton of love. Double din stereo conversion (I love my nav and tech), 40/20/40 reupholstered front seats, all LED interior lights, new vinyl flooring, ceramic tint on all windows, all screw fasteners replaced with galvanized steel screws to stave off rusty screws, and heavy-duty sound deadening.​

I used the Double Din conversion kit from OBS Interior and installed an android head unit with Nav. It works with android auto on my phone easily. The front seats I pulled from an F250 of the same era. I like them a lot better than the captain chairs that it had. The flooring I got from Bronco Graveyard. The ceramic tint massively cut down on heat in the summer.​

The sound deadening I went hard on. After a lot of research and comparisons, I went with Sound Deadener Showdown's products (no longer in business, RIP) to deaden as much sound in the cab as possible. These things are noisy to begin with. Add a diesel engine and fat exhaust and it's unbearable for any length of time. I applied the 3 tiered system from SDS and some materials from Resonix when I ran out. CLD (constrained layer damper) tiles for resonance in the body panels (only needs ~25% coverage). On top of that went MLV (mass loaded vinyl) for sound blocking. And lastly, wherever I could find cavities that could fit it, I installed Hydrophobic Melamine Foam to further cut down on certain frequencies of noise and help prevent rattling of panels against each other. This system went down on the floors, over the wheel wells, up under the dash, doors, and even on the roof and A/B pillars of the cab. The difference was massive. Measurements are [here]. Find pictures and descriptions of the flooring and sound deadening install starting [here].​

Parts List:
Here's a comprehensive list of parts I've ordered along with the price tag at the time I bought them and links to them. Don't forget about taxes, shipping, and have extra room in your budget for last-minute smaller items (guess what I forgot about?). They stack up fast. As my dad says, "Make your budget, then add 20%". This is a little low-balled as there are shop supplies, my own supplies, and some random miscellaneous parts I needed I didn't track that stacked up extra costs by a few hundred bucks.​
ItemNotesSupplierPNPriceLink
Engine enamelDupli-Color Cummins BeigeAmazon
$14.11​
[link]
Engine enamelDupli-Color BlackAmazon
$14.11​
[link]
Engine primerRust-Oleum GrayAmazon
$7.50​
[link]
Gas Tank Skid PlateAluminumDesolate MotorsportsDES-01053
$299.99​
[link]
Transmission Control ModuleDiesel Conversion Specialists2159
$750.00​
[link]
Adapter PlateDiesel Conversion Specialists2040
$769.00​
[link]
Flex Plate for 6.0 StarterDiesel Conversion Specialists1235
$550.00​
[link]
Engine Mountsw/ isolatorsDiesel Conversion Specialists2081
$350.00​
[link]
Oil Press., Water Temp., AdapterSensor adaptersDiesel Conversion Specialists1031
$30.00​
[link]
Tee Vacuum Line for BrakesIncl. w/ conversion kitDiesel Conversion Specialists[link]
Tachometer KitDiesel Conversion Specialists2142
$303.00​
[link]
AC compressor bracketDiesel Conversion Specialists3068
$595.00​
[link]
AC Compressor linesDiesel Conversion Specialists1027
$131.00​
[link]
AC Compressor, DodgeDiesel Conversion Specialists1386
$165.00​
[link]
Power Steering CouplerDiesel Conversion Specialists2351
$25.00​
[link]
Lower Water Neck (45 degree angle)Diesel Conversion Specialists3102
$110.00​
[link]
Upper Water Neck (vertical)Diesel Conversion Specialists1029
$80.00​
[link]
4BT 8V 3.9L CUMMINS LOWER GASKET SETDiesel Power ProductsDPP-3802375
$133.16​
[link]
4BT 8V 3.9L CUMMINS UPPER GASKET SETDiesel Power ProductsDPP-3804896
$91.23​
[link]
Triple Gauge Pod & GaugesBeige, 3 pod, gauges incl.GlowshiftGS-346T-C7-PKG
$239.96​
[link]
Gas tankPlasticJeff's Bronco Graveyard30216
$145.00​
[link]
Sending Unit SealJeff's Bronco Graveyard30243
$2.00​
[link]
Gas tank breather valveJeff's Bronco Graveyard30259
$16.00​
[link]
Breather Valve SealJeff's Bronco Graveyard30259S
$6.00​
[link]
Rollover Breather Valve?Try to reuse old oneJeff's Bronco Graveyard30260
$109.00
[link]
Rear Tank Filler HoseJeff's Bronco Graveyard30218
$25.00​
[link]
Upper Gas Tank StrapsJeff's Bronco Graveyard30272
$19.00​
[link]
Lower Gas Tank StrapsJeff's Bronco Graveyard30278
$45.00​
[link]
Diesel filler neck92-98 F350LMC Truck43-3331
$209.95​
[link]
Core Support 92-97 PSFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck43-2868-T
$229.95​
[link]
Radiator Insulator Set-LWRFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck43-0934
$11.95​
[link]
Reinforcement Support-LHFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck43-2870
$29.95​
[link]
Reinforcement Support-RHFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck43-2871
$29.95​
[link]
Bolt-SupportFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck50-0216
$0.95​
[link]
U-Nut-SupportFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck40-0888
$0.95​
[link]
Rad Core Mounting Kit 18pcFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck43-0963
$89.95​
[link]
Bracket-Radiator Core MountFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck45-1465
$29.95​
[link]
Bolt-Mount BracketFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck40-0591
$1.25​
[link]
Nut-Mount BracketFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck40-0871
$0.60​
[link]
Transmission Rebuild (96-97 PS converter)4r100 steel internalsMaryland Transmission Specialist
$3,810.74​
[link]
Pod, Gauges, SensorsCame w/GlowShift kit & wiringGlowshiftGS-346T-C7-PKG
$239.96​
[link]
Additional Sensor, different pod, additional gaugeCame w/GlowShift kit & wiringGlowshiftGS-346T-C7-PKG
$71.29​
4bt Cummins Diesel EngineCPL#1839 p7100 pumpOther
$3,500.00​
Dowel Pin Tab w/ BoltKiller dowel pin fixPower Driven Diesel54001010006
$125.00​
[link]
Budget Builder 3K/4K Governor SpringsAdded adjustment toolPower Driven Diesel60700000001
$150.00​
[link]
Adjustable Turbo Boost ElbowPower Driven Diesel10920920512
$20.00​
[link]
4BT Cummins 055 Fuel Delivery ValvesPower Driven Diesel62001020001
$130.00​
[link]
AFC LIVE in Cab Fuel TunerPower Driven Diesel61001010000
$345.00​
[link]
AFC Foot for AFC LIVE InstallationAdded on AFC Tuner PagePower Driven Diesel61001010008
$40.00​
[link]
AFC Max Travel KitAdded on AFC Tuner PagePower Driven Diesel61001010007
$35.00​
[link]
Machined 8v Rocker PedestalRequired for ARP Head StudsPower Driven Diesel51816141300-1
$200.00​
[link]
Intercooler pipesPossibly reuse banks pipesWit's End
$1,255.00​
[link]
Downpipe and exhaust4 inch exhaustWit's End
$1,309.50​
[link]
Dual Battery KitBroncoAir
$418.00​
[link]
LaborWit's End
$22,006.42​
[link]
Ford 6.0 PS StarterMean green starterXtreme Diesel PerformanceMG6670
$369.95​
[link]
Oil Remote Filter KitPacBrakeXtreme Diesel PerformancePBHP10007
$234.13​
[link]
Radiator - 96-97 PSMishimoto AluminumXtreme Diesel PerformanceMIMMRAD-F2D-95
$395.95​
[link]
Front Mount IntercoolerBanksXtreme Diesel PerformanceBP25970
$1,531.75​
[link]
PSC PK1490 High Performance Pump KitDodge Ram 2500/3500 4WDXtreme Diesel PerformancePSCPK1490
$460.75​
[link]
ARP 247-4206 Diesel Head Stud Kit3.9L Cummins 4BTXtreme Diesel PerformanceARP247-4206
$332.31​
[link]
Dorman 904-810 Vacuum PumpDodge 5.9L CumminsXtreme Diesel PerformanceDOR904-810
$236.87​
[link]
AFE 49-90002 Mach Force XP Exhaust Tip4" In x 5" Out x 12" LXtreme Diesel PerformanceAFE49-90002
$66.49​
[link]
12V FREEZE PLUG BLOCK HEATER (89-98)CPP Diesel3313272
$72.95​
[link]
Mishimoto Transmission cooler for 7.3lMishimotoMMTC-F2D-99SL
$349.95​
[link]
SEM Medium Prairie Tan Vinyl PaintAutoPlus Auto Parts
Vinyl Paint Adhesion PromoterAutoPlus Auto Parts
CLD, MLV, HMF, Butyl Rope, VelcroSound Deadener Showdown
$467.12​
CLD, Butyl Rope, VelcroResonix
$127.89​
[link]
Transmission cooler 11"American Volt
$137.75​
[link]
Ceramic tint
$950.00​
Mag Hytec Transmission PanMag-Hytec
$371.00​
[link]
Electric Radiator FansFF Dynamic
$550.00​
Turbo cartridge & Fuel pump governorRebuild / balance / advanced 14*
$1,604.15​
40/20/40 Seats & ReupholsteredUpholstered in Porsche Terracotta
$2,000.00​
Off Road Power Steering ReservoirPSC
$275.00​
[link]
Odyssey AGM Batteries x2950 cca eachAutozone65-PC1750T
$610.54​
[link]
Throttle Position SensorTCI377450
$229.95​
[link]

Questions & Answers:
Questions I or others have had and their answers. I'll do my best to keep updated here to help avoid people needing to dig through comments on this thread for answers.​
Is swapping the instrument cluster from a 96-97 F350 diesel OBS into a Bronco a straightforward swap?
This is not a straightforward swap. It's likely the PSOM will need to come with the cluster. Also try the OBS or PowerStrokeNation forums for more information (thanks TravisITGuy).​
Does anyone know how the glow plug indicator works on the 96-97 F350 diesel OBS instrument cluster?
It appears these years did not have a glow plug indicator, just a wait-to-start (WTS) light.​
Also, the 4bt does not have a glow plug. An engine block heater and/or a heater grid is recommended.​
The block heater will go into a freeze plug port. You can find a block heater here [link] (thanks curtwow).​
The heater grid installs between the intake elbow and the head of the engine. Image for heater grid here [link] (thanks texaswoodswalker893).​
What kind of mileage can I expect to get with a swap like this?
I will get a more accurate number through testing once the swap is complete. I have been told with my current drivetrain I can expect to see between 20-25mpg. I've seen a couple of posts say 30mpg and one say 35mpg. I imagine the higher numbers are without performance upgrades like I'm doing, even though what I'm doing I think is very mild.​
Should I upgrade the cooling system such as the radiator and fan?
Generally 4BT does not get very hot by design. Since you don't plan to boost 4BT (bigger turbo etc.), stock Bronco or F150 radiator is sufficient enough to cool that engine even in hot climate. The only recommendation would be to get rid of 4BT stock mechanical fan and replace it with el. fan for the case if you tow some heavy trailer uphill in hot climate. Recommended el. fan would be from Ford 500 or similar. Junk yards are full of these very powerful dual fans, but it would not be bolt on. That would be the only thing needed. Bigger radiator is unnecessary overkill [link](thanks @milan65).​
Will I need to upgrade the suspension?
That is up to you, but initially, no. The 4bt weighs in at ~750lbs depending on dressings and fluids [link]. The 351w weighs in at ~510lbs with block, heads, and manifolds alone [link] and [link]. If your Bronco has the dual shock and coilover suspension up front already because it had a v8 (I don't know about the i6 model) general consensus seems to be you'll be fine. Additionally, Diesel Conversion Specialists confirmed this under the the "Engine Weight" section on their instruction page here: [link]. Understand your ride will be a little more nose heavy, but no more than if you put a snow plow or a heavy duty bumper on the front of your rig.​

Story Time!
Would you like some pictures? And a story too? Here you go!​
But seriously, this is a story and not meant to be technical at all. I have crap memory so I figured I'd write down the journey here.​
20190727 - Toll Hell
I really hate tolls. Being from the West, I had never experienced them prior to moving East. It's especially expensive when you have a third axle... go figure. Borrowed the trailer from a buddy after work. Three states and several hours later I get to the seller's house just before dark. He's ready to go with a backhoe and four or so other guys to help load this engine on the trailer. Not going to lie, I was concerned carrying that much cash and being confronted with several guys, but they were all incredibly cool and helpful. Weighed down with ~1000lbs of new dead weight, I cruise to a friends place nearby-ish, do dinner, and get home Saturday early in the AM.​
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20190729 - Up A Creek
Finally get the trailer to (barely) fit in the garage. How the hell do I get this damn thing off the trailer? Time to shuffle things around and clean up this disaster of a man cave.​
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20190731 - Lost the Battle
Rented an engine lift and had just enough clearance. Turns out trying to get it lifted and maneuvered alone was a chore. Didn't die, though. I discovered much too late that the cherry picker was actually bad. Left leg was bent upward just enough and the boom twisted to the left just enough that when I got it in the air, it started leaning and falling toward that leg. I hopped on the back of the lift like I was doing a box jump at the Crossfit Open, and it was just enough to rock it back and put the three good points-of-contact on the ground. After much shouting and banging on the ceiling, my girlfriend came down and helped me get an old damaged rim under the engine so I could sit it down and not be stuck standing on the lift all night. Precarious, but it was late and I had work. Keeping the lift partially loaded with the weight and a good jiggle-check confirmed it was tomorrow's problem.​
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20190801 - Won the War
Attempt #2. I get the chain adjusted, shift the weight of the engine more toward the right leg, and voila! Finally get the dang thing off and tucked into the corner directly behind the lift on jackstands. The following day I take the cherry picker back and let the shop I rented it from know how it almost killed me. Y'know, brighten their day a little.​
Over the next couple of weeks I start unbolting the transmission since I'm not going to need it. I'm going to clean it up and paint it, I tell myself, before I take it to the shop and ask them to install it. Actual spoiler: I didn't clean it up before taking it to the shop. Two sheared off bolts and several days of soaking the sheared bolts in WD40 later, I decide the shop is better equipped to handle it.​
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20190926 - Best Laid Plans
Tons of research and lots of communicating with the shop happen. I've made the parts list. I've built too many spreadsheets, compiled too many interwebs links, and obtained copious amounts of information from diesel shops and vendors around the country. I'm good to go... I think. I pull the trigger.​
After the shop graciously lets me borrow their known-good lift and I recruit a long-time friend and his truck, the engine (and transmission) goes to the shop.​
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Discussion starter · #4 ·
@TravisITGuy Thanks for the heads up. I had no idea what that was and had to look it up. Just superficial research until I get home tonight, but it looks like it does some reading based on your transmission? I'm keeping my e4od so I wonder if I'll still need to change it. I'll do more research.
@fordbronco1995 Thanks for the suggestion, don't know why I didn't think of it, I'll head over there tonight!
 
Discussion starter · #11 · (Edited)
Sorry LVSteve, I will be little help with that. I'm retaining my stock axles for now.

milan65 Thanks for stopping by. I'm brand new to 4bt's and diesels, so you're probably very much correct and it doesn't have a glow plug. I knew that there was only one electrical need for the motor (starter, I think that's it?) and didn't put two and two together. I will definitely be updating, hopefully this weekend. It's finals week for me and things are incredibly busy until next week. Maybe I'll stick with my factory dash cluster then, and just cover up the "unleaded fuel only" bit with a "diesel fuel only" vinyl. Although I have read more than once those clusters are modular, maybe I can just get the fuel gauge swapped out to accomplish that end. It is a ReCon engine, which I think means it's just a rebuilt 4bt Cummins?

curtwow I appreciate the heads up! The E4OD is manual for the first 3 gears and requires a controller for overdrive (that's what I read anyhow). So I've got an independent controller on order. I'm getting it rebuilt with the steel internals of a 4r100 locally to get it up to 1,000lbft tolerance. Mostly it's a stop gap so I don't have to do the rest of the drive train immediately. This is my daily and the availability of parts is key. I've been struggling to find a harmonic balancer and crank tone ring for months haha. Honestly, I'd like to get it into a daily driven overlanding rig, but that's a future goal. You don't happen to know a good block heater to use? I'm assuming that's what you're talking about when you plug it in. I'm trying to source one of those to be installed as well, looks like it installs in one of the freeze plug ports?

texaswoodswalker893 would it be a good idea to get that grid heater if I don't have it?
 
Discussion starter · #16 ·
Thanks @curtwow, that's going on the list of things to buy this weekend.

@milan65 I appreciate it! I definitely will be this weekend. It's a lot of information put together, so I need to get it sorted and post it up. I'll modify the original post to have my plan, parts list, and overall goals of the build. But you're absolutely right, that is how it's going. The shop specializes in one off builds, but they haven't done this specific one before. Was up until 2:30 this morning doing finals papers, back at work at 6:30. Gonna be a rough weekend haha. I've actually purchased the kit from DCS for doing this conversion, and they include necessary adapters to mount up to the factory guages.

@texaswoodswalker893 I appreciate it man! I don't live in too cold of an area, but I plan to in a year or so. I'm originally from the Rockies and want the Bronco to be able to survive up there just fine.
 
Discussion starter · #19 · (Edited)
All right, I've updated the main post with my parts list as it stands currently, questions and answers section that I'll update as I ask more and get more answers to them, and I'll add another section for updates with pictures. I tried to make large parts collapsible and format things nicely, but it seems like the BB code on this forum is a bit limited and I couldn't create a traditional table, so I did the best I could with what I had.

Now, it's late. I'll try again tomorrow
 
Discussion starter · #21 ·
So in talking with Diesel Conversion Specialists, there is a common vacuum pump/power steering pump all in one unit I need to get (they offer it, too) that is turned by the timing gears. So I'm going to order one of those. The conversion kit I got from them is supposed to include fittings to adapt the power steering and vacuum pump to the brake booster and my steering.
 
Discussion starter · #24 · (Edited)
I have added the "My 4bt Configuration" section and filled it with info. I have a ton more than what's in the OP, but I plan to keep adding little by little each day. It's just a pain to organize what I have coherently and rewrite it.

I actually wasn't sure about vacuum, honestly I didn't know much about it and how important it was for braking until last week @texaswoodswalker893. DCS let me know the Sandon power steering pump and vacuum pump assembly from the 6bt's of 93-97 would work on this engine, and that's how I planned to get vacuum. I was hoping that I had that assembly already, but based off the pictures I took last week, I'm going to go out on a limb and say I don't have a vacuum pump, and might have a power steering pump.

I've already bought a vast majority of what's on the list @milan65. I thought about marking the ones I bought, but It is most of it, including the intercooler.
  1. So Power Driven Diesel, the guys I bought the Live AFC from, told me I wouldn't need to grind down the fuel plate to allow more fuel with the Live AFC system. Bonus, I can change my power on the fly with the live system.
  2. I did not plan to replace the stock head bolts. Should I with 200hp? What I was reading was, unless I plan to go much higher than that, I shouldn't have to worry just yet about it. But I'm not overly experienced in these matters.
  3. I am using an HX30. From what I'm reading, I'm hoping that should be sufficient?
  4. One of my must-haves is AC, and the Diesel Conversion Specialists kit can have a high-mount AC bracket added that will mount a Dodge compressor. Unfortunately, the mount necessitates the remote oil filter kit, according to DCS.
  5. I plan to travel a lot between sea level and 6000+ elevation semi-regularly. PDD convinced me (suckered me into believing?) it would be useful to have to adjust power with drastic elevation changes like that.
  6. A lift pump wasn't on my radar.. unless that's the fuel pump?
  7. I got a three-pod pillar for EGT, boost, and tranny temp, and the accompanying gauges.
  8. It's an E4OD. I found out through research a 4r100 is not that differnt, and used in the 1999-2003 super duty's. Local transmission shop who's don this before is putting all the steel internals in the E4OD in place of the alloy parts to make it good for around 1000lb-ft tq. I believe there was mention of changing to a dual-clutch torque converter for the powerstrokes as well. The E4OD doesn't come with a temp sensor, but I plan to put one into the test port.
  9. Yes it is, and it's not complete. That is the deposit.
  10. This is a really long story I'll eventually post in the OP, but to keep it short: I wanted a new truck bad but refuse to pay the price. So I'm going hard on this build to make me feel like I have a new truck to scratch that itch, and still save tons of money by not paying for a brand new truck. My tank is original and I wanted to change to a plastic one because it won't rust. I'm protecting it with a 1/4" aluminum skid plate.
  11. I honestly have no idea. I spoke with the shop and they said they are going to fabricate them in house out of stainless I believe.
  12. Yeah, honestly this purchase hurt my soul, and also, my luck, it's not in stock, so I have to wait a bit. I wanted the process to be mostly bolt-on so I can do my own work down the road if I have to. Swapping in an f350 core support and radiator, and that kit claims to be bolt on in front of the radiator. Also it appears bigger than cheaper kits, and the chief complaint I saw about 4bter's and their power was having a too-small intercooler.
The vacuum/power steering pump from the 93-97 Rams won't work? DCS told me the Sandon branded one would? Although their engine did have a VE pump... What do you mean by an external canister?

@curtwow I do, here are some pictures of parts and the engine:

Just getting back from picking up the engine
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Dropped it off at the shop
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Aluminum fuel tank skid plate
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Gauge pod and gauges
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Plastic fuel tank
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Discussion starter · #27 ·
Man you have a lot of info, thanks for all the information!
  • I'll look at getting the ARP head studs here asap, they're tearing the motor apart today, but I think they weren't going to go as far as pulling the head.
  • The turbo I have is stock, an HX30 model. Is that the size of the turbine? I'll do some more research.
  • The Bronco's fuel pump is in the tank, I figured I wasn't going to need that anymore because of the P7100 on my 4bt. Am I misunderstanding something?
  • I'll do more research on the water to air cooler, it looks interesting and definitely cheaper.
  • Is it the reservoir that gets in the way of the ppump? Some other folks were saying the power steering and vacuum combo wouldn't fit with the ppump.
 
Discussion starter · #28 · (Edited)
It looks like there is already a lift pump on the 4bt, so that's good. One less thing I'll have to buy. They are looking to do a majority of the work on the Bronco this week so I'm getting the last of the parts ordered today. Then I'll add some more info to my OP.
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Discussion starter · #31 · (Edited)
Ok, sorry it took a bit. Crazy busy.
  1. I amend my statement, I have an HX30W. I'm not sure if that makes a difference. I don't have enough in the budget for a bigger turbo at the moment, but I'll put it on the list of things to do in the near future.
  2. I'm looking now at lift pumps, and I'm thinking I might go with this [link]. Any thoughts? I'd prefer mechanical over electric, but it doesn't seem like there are any mechanical options out there.
  3. I do like the idea of this. The intercooler is on the way, though, and I'm a bit wary of extra electrical systems. I think this'll be another thing to go on the near future list.
  4. I ended up going with a PSC power steering and remote reservoir kit [link] to avoid the having to cut and turn the fill neck on the can. Hopefully this will help avoid needing to do that.
Update:
Engine, transmission, exhaust, fuel tank, and other underbody stuff has been stripped out. Bronco is going to LineX either today or tomorrow for an undercarriage and frame coating. Hopefully that helps a little with road noise too. If not, I already have a ton of sound deadening stuff ready to go in once I get her back.​
If anyone is interested in a newer AC compressor (<1yr old), Power Steering pump (<1yr old), serpentine belt (<5k miles) or anything else, let me know. Local pick up preferred, but we can work something out.​
Most of the new parts are on the table, all the old stuff pulled out is on the ground in front of and to the right of the table.​
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The old and (probably) tired 351w (~250k miles).​
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Discussion starter · #34 ·
That's not super great... I can see all of my pictures on a PC using Brave or Chrome. I haven't tried other browsers.

I did test and cannot see my pictures on a cell phone using brave or chrome, though. Are you using mobile @curtwow?
 
Discussion starter · #39 ·
That's really interesting... I only did one thing different. I don't understand why it would matter. I will change the rest tonight or tomorrow so all the pictures are visible.

It appears google photos doesn't allow embedding pictures anywhere, even if it's a shared album or shared picture, unless the user viewing the picture is authenticated via google. Kind of lame. I think I found a way around that, but I'm also afraid there is some kind of caching happening to allow that one picture to be visible, and that a session will expire and the pictures will be unavailable again.

@milan65 if you notice that picture or the others (once I get them updated soon) disappear after you've been able to see them, can you let me know? I'll for sure have to move all the pictures to probably supermotors or something in that case.
 
Discussion starter · #40 · (Edited)
All images have been updated in replies and the OP. I will try to update the OP with more information Friday and/or this weekend.

Now that I've finally tracked down the issues with my posts (hopefully), here's a small update:

Engine mounts are stupid heavy.
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DCS Conversion kit for mating the 4bt to the e4od is in as well as the new transmission controller. Got some other major parts including power steering pump and reservoir, vacuum pump, block heater, and the core support with all needed mounting hardware. Looks like that'll have to get painted before going in. UPS was nice enough to ignore my note to put it in the driveway and I was surprised to find it blockading my egress.
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LineX is going to have to get skipped and done some other time, if at all. The shop that applies it is down a technician for sudden medical reasons and I'm trying to get this back on the road as quickly as possible. So bonus bay picture. That's a lot of space. I'm gonna need it...
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4bt is apart and ready for cleaning, paint, and upgrades. Those diesel piston heads sure are a funny shape. The shop fabbed up a quick stand to hold the block.
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Something pretty neat, I think this is the first thing I've ever seen stamped "Made In U.S.A".
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@milan65 I haven't forgotten about you. There isn't enough time in the day to do college, work, get to the shop, get pictures, research issues, troubleshoot the new forum posting weirdness, and catch up on posts. It'll be the death of me probably.
 
Discussion starter · #42 · (Edited)
All right folks, finally migrated the photos I've used on this build to SuperMotors.net and will be using that from now on, so hopefully no more issues.

1. Turbo - in order to achieve 200HP + bigger turbo is a must. There's no way around.
That's really good to know! It looks like I'll have to stick with the HX30W for now, so we'll see what that can put out. I'm not looking for a performance monster, just something that isn't dragging on the pavement and does well doing mild offroading. Torque is what matters anyway, right? Haha

Here's the recommendation for reputable very good mechanical pump
Thanks for that recommendation! I've saved the part because I'd like to stick with mechanical, and I think that'll be a future upgrade. I called Power Drive Diesel (I got the fuel upgrades from them) and they advised that the lift pump I have should be fine for what I'm doing and the mild fuel upgrades I'm putting in. I'll try it out and see how it goes, and make sure to test PSI and make sure it's enough.

Chevy Astro van reservoir from junk yard is $10. Brand new one from RockAuto is $35. The pump itself from RockAuto between $68-148 incl. core charge.
I definitely should have gone this route, and that's what I'll write up in the OP as the recommendation. I didn't know that the Astro pump would work. The few things I could find online about it all said to get a dodge pump and a 96 astro can on it, and I didn't have time to go scrounging around for those things, so I pulled the trigger on that (expensive) kit. I should have gone the astro route. Is the astro pump compatible with the dodge vacuum pump?

BTW what’s your plan for gear ratio change?
I don't plan to change my gear ratio for now, so just stock (whatever the stock ratio is). I don't have a lift, just 32's. I want to do a lift and axle upgrade in the future, and will change my ratio then. I used the grim jeeper website to calculate my final drive and found that the 4bt should be just fine with my stock driveline (I hope). With the 4bt, my RPMs should be 1853 @ 70mph. I'm putting a 3k governer on, so I think that should be perfect.

I'm on year four of my build I've driven it for two years now but just take it easy mine spent nearly 12 full months at shop getting swapped.
That is crazy! I'm glad you're still driving it and working on it. A year for the swap would be way longer than I'm willing to put up with hahaha. I'm hoping everything goes as planned. I plan to drive this thing 2400 miles across the country in December. But we all know about plans and first contact with the enemy... we'll see how it goes. I'm doing so much damn research and calling people and picking other people's brains to make sure I can help make this as smooth as possible with the shop.

Not to say that you shouldn't keep an eye on what's going on there was another 4bt swap that was absolutely disastrous
If you find it, I'd be interested in reading about it!

It is almost comical to me how similar your motivations were to mine. I had this Bronco with a tired engine and was pricing out new pickups, one day I got to thinking about daily driving the bronco and before you knew it I had purchased a 4bt on ebay. I'm in the car business and the amount of depreciation people take on vehicles is mind boggling. Classics just don't seem to be affected. Even on pickup trucks most people loose between 7 and 10,000 per year. I'm not stating I expect to get every dime back out I put in however it will/ should be much closer then even a couple of years depreciation for a new vehicle and I get more enjoyment out of it than any of the other 25 or so cars I've owned.
If you have any pointers or personal experiences to share, I'm all ears. I like a good story. Yeah I couldn't believe how much places are charging for newer trucks these days. I'd like the tech packed in them but I'd rather make it work in mine. Drive a new one off the lot and lose 20% of the value right there it seems like haha. I'm hoping these upgrades and this Bronco will give me another decade at least.
 
Discussion starter · #45 ·
Have you made mention of getting the killer dowel pin fixed? Just google 12v cummins and KDP you'll find all the info you want. I messed up and bought a 100 dollar kit your builder should be more than capable of fixing it himself.
Yeah, I messed up too ?but I do have a KDP kit. I will ask the shop to check the rest of what you recommended as well before I do a trip like that.

I do have another question. I got a new core support from LMC truck for a 96-97 7.3 powerstroke to put in the Bronco. The reading I did is it would be direct bolt in. However, it's here, the shop was getting ready to install it, and it's the exact same support [link]. On their site the same part number is used for Broncos/F150's as F250/F350 diesels. Some of the research I was doing said if I want to use the diesel radiator, I have to get the new core support, so I did. But it looks like they are the same. My question is if anyone has any experience with this? Are they the same for sure or did I get sent the wrong part? I ordered an aluminum Mishimoto 7.3l radiator, and I wanted it to bolt up. Will it still?
 
Discussion starter · #48 ·
That's great to know, I will put that in my notes. I don't tow often enough to get an electric fan I think... yet. I'm thinking I might get a little 14' adventure trailer. But that's future plans haha.

Out of curiosity, you folks who also did 4bt swaps, what kind of mileage are you getting?