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96 Bronco 4bt Cummins

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So I finally decided to commit and do the swap. This is my story.
Updated: 20230206

Wot 'n tarnation?
Yes it's long, no one likes scrolling through walls of text, and I'm sorry. But hear me out-
I want to make all my build information as transparent, organized, and centralized as possible. It was way too damn hard to find what I've put together from research in the many corners of the internet, phone calls to vendors, and visits to fabrication shops for how many times this kind of swap has been done. So I'm trying to frontload the pain and make it as easy as possible for anyone in the future that may want to do this swap, and may be coming from a small knowledgebase like me.​
I enlisted the help of a local fabrication shop who specializes in high-end, hotrod, project, and restoration builds.​


Build Goals:
  • Must be daily driveable.
  • Must be reliable.
  • Must have the same or better power as the 351w.
  • Improved MPG if possible.
  • Complete the job with a $15k budget.
    • I don't want to have to do anything but regular maintenance for several years, so the budget was loose to ensure quality parts and work.
  • Minimal downtime - it's my daily after all.
    • Despite all the planning and research, this swap took a year, because nothing goes to plan.
  • Sate my desire for a new truck.
  • Stick with bolt ons as much as possible.
    • I'm not a welder, fabricator, or machinist. I'd like to be able to work on it myself going forward.

The Plan:
The technical stuff, the research, and all the stuff I intend to touch, modify, replace, or need to check for in the course of this build. Being that I want this to be a new upgrade rather than patching and fixing something existing, I'm okay with a larger budget on this.​
Engine:
I knew I wanted a 4bt that was going to be able to produce around 200hp since the 351w is supposed to put out around 210hp @ 3,600 and 325lb-ft @ 2,600 rpm [link]. I was a lot less concerned about the correlating torque numbers on the 4bt since diesels in general produce a lot more torque at lower rpms.​
I contacted the Big Bear Engine Company in Colorado [link] quite a bit for information on 4bt's. Turns out there are a ton of them out there, mostly for machinery like woodchippers or generators, but sometimes for bread trucks, and they all vary quite a bit in power output depending on the application. The best way to eyeball a 4bt for what kind of power it will produce is by the Critical Parts List (CPL) number. Also, if you are able to get the engine's serial number, call your local Cummins shop and they should be able to decode it for you and provide a configuration sheet. This will give you an idea of exactly what your 4bt is composed of including the fuel pump and turbo type.​
It looks like a vast majority of 4bt's out there are in the 105-130hp range. More research told me that is largely dependent on the kind of cooling, aspiration (turbo or non-turbo), and fuel pump in use. There are some running a little hotter, but they're really hard to find, moreso than the one I got, and more expensive. I was looking to spend $4k max on a low mileage 4bt. And I found it... on Craigslist. It was super shady but worked out in the end.​
In order to make 200hp, which I figure should get me around 500lb-ft tq, I'd need to upgrade and tweak certain parts. Research told me the best fuel pump for upgrade-ability was a ppump; more specifically, a P7100 pump (made by Bosch), rather than a VE rotary pump, which is more limited in how much fuel can be pushed through it. Extremely few 4bt's received a ppump, I found. I'd also want a 4bt with an HX30 (made by Borg Warner), an HE221, or TD04HL-19T turbo. I watched a couple of videos of people having trouble getting an HX35, which came on the 6 cylinder 12 valve 6bt's, to spool up with bolt ons, so I wasn't going that route. Finally, to make the power I wanted (which is well within this configuration's abilities) I'd have to make a few mostly bolt-on upgrades according to the 4btswaps forum [link]. Those are:​
  • HX30 turbo
  • Wastegate set to ~22psi
  • Intercooler installed
  • A PPump flowing 130cc, or 1000 shots
  • 3200+rpm governer spring
I used some CPL decoders and none seemed to give any meaningful information on CPL's unless they were in the 0-1000 range, and the engines in that range didn't come with the turbo or fuel pump I wanted. After searching online in a lot of places and correlating tidbits of information, I found out that a 4bt CPL#1839 came with an HX30 turbo, a P7100 pump, and produced 130hp stock. That's the one I looked for. It took me a couple of months, but eventually one popped up a couple of states away. I made an offer and picked it up that same weekend for $3,500. Ran when pulled and has ~37k miles.​
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|                                   ReCon Engine Information                                  |
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|Part Number    -   DR1683RX                       |Build Date                -   01-NOV-2004 |
|Description    -   ENG 4BTA 3.9 B 130@2300 P7100  |Fuel Pump Type            -   P7100       |
|Family         -   4b                             |Fuel Type                 -   DIESEL      |
|Liters         -   3.9l                           |Fuel Solenoid Voltage     -   12V         |
|Application    -   AUTOMOTIVE                     |Fuel Pump Governer Type   -   RQVK        |
|CPL            -   1839                           |Turbo Location            -   LMRO        |
|Aspiration     -   JACKET WATER AFTER C           |Oil Pan                   -   REAR        |
|Configuration  -   D383022BX02                    |Air Compressor            -   N/A         |
|Rated HP@RPM   -   130@2300 RPM                   |Vibration Damper          -   N/A         |
|Peak Torque    -   327@1700                       |PTO Location              -   N/A         |
|Torque Rise    -   35.29%                         |Paint Color               -   BEIGE       |
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Transmission:
I decided to stick with my E4OD and upgrade it with 4R100 steel internals to handle the increase in power. This will also require an aftermarket transmission controller. DCS has used and recommends the [US Shift Quick 4 Transmission Control System].​
From all of the reading I've done, if you don't plan to increase the power of a 4bt, you can get away with using the stock e4od transmission in this bronco. It is good for an absolute max of around 500lb-ft of torque [link] [link]. Mine has 250k miles on it without a rebuild and, though I haven't abused it, I am trying to increase the power on the 4bt from 130hp to 200hp (~500lb-ft). So, because it's probably tired and needs a little love, I researched if I should get a new transmission or stick with mine and rebuild it.​
The ZF5 would have been nice and I seriously thought about it. That is the manual transmission offered for the 92-98 manual ford trucks. I love manual vehicles and the idea of having a vehicle that can run mechanically without electronics is very attractive to me. However, I live in the DC, Maryland, Virginia (DMV) area and traffic is a bitch. I have a motorcycle and a manual car, and I don't like feeling like my leg is going to fall off. So I decided to stick with an auto (because daily). But is there an automatic transmission that's mechanical?​
The E4OD transmission is allegedly mechanically controlled from the 1-3rd gears, and overdrive is electronically controlled [link]. That was a pretty big selling point for me, and since I already have an E4OD, I may as well stick with it. A common upgrade to the E4OD's is to have the aluminum internals replaced with the 4R100's steel internals. That upgrade will make the torque tolerance a lot better at around 1,000lb-ft and is a simple upgrade in that the two transmissions are virtually the same [link]. The E4OD was offered in the 92-98 automatic Ford trucks, and the 4R100 was offered in the 99-2003 ford diesel trucks. I will need an aftermarket Transmission Control Module (TCM), though, as the factory one can't be re-flashed or modified to accommodate the swap reliably or simply [link].​
Some additional very useful information in my calculations were these [E4OD Transmission Specs] and these [E4OD Torque Specs].​
The gentleman working to upgrade the E4OD let me know it'd be a good idea to grab a [Mag-Hytec] pan for a little better cooling and increased fluid capacity in addition to still running my factory transmission cooler. I figure more cooling is better, so I'll go that route. It'll increase the fluid capacity from the factory 17-18qts to ~22-24qts. Bonus, this also adds a better place to put the transmission temperature sensor. Since the E4OD didn't come with a temp sensor from the factory, a common place to put one is in the pressure test port on these transmissions. With the Mag-Hytec pan, it comes with a port tapped into it already. He also used a Transgo kit to do the rebuild and left the following notes of what was done on the invoice:​
REBUILD TRANSMISSION. UPGRADES INCLUDE, STEEL OD PLANET, 6 PINION STEEL FRONT AND REAR PLANETS, TRANSGO TUGGER SHIFT KIT, LOW REVERSE CLUTCHES, STEELS, LOW HOUSING AND COMPLETE SPRAG, 1 PIECE CASE BUSHING, STEEL ACCUMULATOR VALVES AND DUAL CLUTCH TORQUE CONVERTER. ALL CLUTCHES, STEELS BEARINGS BUSHINGS, SPRAGS, SEALS ARE REPLACED ALSO.​
Driveshaft, Axles, Suspension:
I will be using the stock axles, driveshaft, and suspension.​
I used [The Grimm Jeeper] to get an idea of how hard the 4bt will be working to move the Bronco. If I plug in the numbers (Ford E4OD transmission, Borg Warner 1356 transfer case, 3.55 axle gear ratio, and 32" tires) it tells me my RPMs will be 1853@70mph, which is a good cruising speed to me. Based on this, I decided not to do any re-gearing just yet. That'll be another later build along with suspension. Based on the power output of the 351w, I don't think the gearing or driveshafts will need upgrading just yet.​
Intake System:
Intake is one of the systems I figured would need a lot of customization. The shop and I agreed to try out some titanium (because why not?) charge pipes to and from the banks intercooler and aluminum for the intake. The intercooler is specifically for the 96 7.3l Powerstroke since I have the core support and radiator for the same.​
I used a universal filter that fit on the end of the 2.5" intake piping and angled it to be right behind the radiator.​
Fuel System:
In the interest of longevity, and since the tank would have to be dropped anyhow to get the fuel pump out at the very least, I decided to go with a replacement plastic tank from Bronco Graveyard. They gave me contact info for the manufacturer and I verified with them that the tank would be good for diesel fuel. They confirmed it would be as it's the same plastic they use in their diesel applications. I know this tank won't be as rigid, but it also won't rust. And to help with the rigidity factor, I contacted Desolate Motorsports for their aluminum skid plate. It has a little bit better coverage and also won't rust.​
The sending unit I hadn't planned to replace, but it was misplaced so I got one anyhow. Fortunately those can be acquired from Bronco Graveyard without fuel pumps attached. The shop will add the in-tank pickup lines and a fuel sock to complete the application.​
I did not upgrade the mechanical lift pump since I'm not drastically improving fuel flow. I decided against larger injectors, but did upgrade the fuel delivery valves in the interest of a little bit more power without sacrificing my fuel economy. I'm also leaning towards keeping things more mechanical than having a bunch of electrical systems.​
I'm also went with an AFC live tuning system from Power Driven Diesel since I commute a lot and go from sea level to higher elevation semi-frequently. This allows me to adjust fuel/air on the fly from in the cab and adjust smoke output to a degree as well.​
Someone mentioned I might consider a fuel/air separator. I figure this can be a future upgrade, but the engine didn't previously run with it and I don't think it would need it now. This build is emptying my pocketbook quickly, so it'll be a future me problem. If I do, I was looking at something like [this] Airdog 150 separator.​
Gauges and Dash Cluster:
I want to be able to utilize my factory dash cluster as much as possible. To monitor some of the important things, I'll also need to add some in a clean fashion. I'm not big on electronic displays that require a toggle to see different sensors and their measurements, and being that it's an older truck I want to keep it sort of era-correct.​
I used the factory sending unit so the fuel senses correctly. To keep my tachometer working, I used the tachometer kit that Diesel Conversion Specialists offers for the 4bt. The engine will only rev to 3k as I had a 3k governor spring assembly installed. Because of this and the alleged modularity of the OBS dash cluster, I played around with the idea of getting the OBS Powerstroke tachometer, but it was going to require more work than plug and play, so I'll just stick with the Bronco's. I'll continue to use the dummy gauge in the factory gauge cluster for engine temperature as well. I did get the plastic cover over the fuel gauge from a Powerstroke of the same era and put it on my Bronco cluster so it says "Diesel Only".​
I initially got the medium mocha 3 gauge pod from GlowShift, then decided I wanted one more gauge, returned it, and got the 4 gauge pod. They only offer the 4 gauge in black. After some research, I found someone [here] talking about SEM's Medium Prairie Tan matching up pretty closely. Using some vinyl adhesion promoter and that paint, the pod looks almost identical to my interior. I'm sure the variation is just due to age and UV exposure over time. The gauges going in this pod are oil pressure, boost, transmission temperature, and exhaust gas temperature (EGT). The gauges I got from GlowShift are black and backlit green to try to match the factory dash lighting.​
Power Steering System:
Fortunately, the engine came with a power steering pump. However, it wouldn't work if I added a mechanical vacuum pump. The reservoir neck to fill the pump with fluid would point more directly upward, which wouldn't be accessible or usable due to the p7100 being mounted above it and blocking it. A lot of research revealed using an old 90's GM Astro van power steering pump reservoir over the top of a dodge power steering pump. The reservoir fill neck angles out almost 45 degrees and wouldn't get in the way. That would take a little bit of junkyard diving work.​
I went with a PSC power steering solution for the 6bt's as shown in my parts list. It uses a remote reservoir, so that got mounted elsewhere near the brake booster. The power steering pump clears the fuel pump and works fantastic, much better than the old Ford one. I did have to order an extra oil line and fitting to get oil from the block to the pump, also in the parts list.​
Vacuum Pump System:
Vacuum is needed to operate both the AC switches and the brakes, making them power brakes. Because of that, vacuum is required in this swap. There were two options for creating vacuum, either install an electrically operated or a mechanically operated vacuum pump.​
An electric vacuum pump will need lines run to the battery to operate it. I didn't research this too much, but I imagine they are probably always on unless more wiring is done to integrate the circuit with the brake or a switch to activate it when needed. I read a post about someone who did integrate the circuit with the brake, but if you want AC that probably isn't very advantageous. In the Bronco, the AC controls are vacuum operated.​
I'm going with a mechanical vacuum pump. My 4bt didn't come with one, so I had to figure out how to add one that would operate with the power steering as well. Turns out the 6bt vacuum pump timing-gear-driven and fits under the fuel pump where the power steering pump was. The power steering pump mounts to the end of the vacuum pump and is also gear driven.​
Exhaust:
The shop and I decided 3 inch stainless exhaust would work out the best. I went with a four inch tip for it as well. The 3 inch exhaust was hard to clear between the transmission and firewall, over the rear axle, and along the side of the fuel tank. The shop is awesome and made it all work out, though. The outlet isn't quite 3 inches on the HX30w we found out, and the my turbo didn't come with a needed downpipe flange vband kit I sourced from CustomFabShop.com. That granted a 3" downpipe outlet.​

Cooling:
Even though I didn't need to, I decided to go with a big cooling refit. I wanted the cooling of a Powerstroke diesel of the same era. So I swapped out the radiator support from the Bronco with an F350's of the same year. Because of this, I used a Mishimoto aluminum 7.3l radiator, a Mishimoto aluminum 7.3l transmission cooler, a 7.3l Banks Intercooler, custom FF Dynamics electric fans, and a custom-fabbed fan shroud by the shop. This did require lengthening the hood-release mechanism, but that only involved welding in a little material to elongate it. The hood-release works as factory.​

Electrical:
I wanted to make sure that I had plenty of storage and redundancy for electrical, just in case, so I installed the BroncoAir dual-battery solution that uses a solenoid between the batteries to isolate each. A switch in the cab allows me to engage both if needed. This helps in really cold weather if the heater block isn't hooked up. Both batteries provide plenty of cold-crank amps to start the engine.​

Interior:
The interior is getting a ton of love. Double din stereo conversion (I love my nav and tech), 40/20/40 reupholstered front seats, all LED interior lights, new vinyl flooring, ceramic tint on all windows, all screw fasteners replaced with galvanized steel screws to stave off rusty screws, and heavy-duty sound deadening.​

I used the Double Din conversion kit from OBS Interior and installed an android head unit with Nav. It works with android auto on my phone easily. The front seats I pulled from an F250 of the same era. I like them a lot better than the captain chairs that it had. The flooring I got from Bronco Graveyard. The ceramic tint massively cut down on heat in the summer.​

The sound deadening I went hard on. After a lot of research and comparisons, I went with Sound Deadener Showdown's products (no longer in business, RIP) to deaden as much sound in the cab as possible. These things are noisy to begin with. Add a diesel engine and fat exhaust and it's unbearable for any length of time. I applied the 3 tiered system from SDS and some materials from Resonix when I ran out. CLD (constrained layer damper) tiles for resonance in the body panels (only needs ~25% coverage). On top of that went MLV (mass loaded vinyl) for sound blocking. And lastly, wherever I could find cavities that could fit it, I installed Hydrophobic Melamine Foam to further cut down on certain frequencies of noise and help prevent rattling of panels against each other. This system went down on the floors, over the wheel wells, up under the dash, doors, and even on the roof and A/B pillars of the cab. The difference was massive. Measurements are [here]. Find pictures and descriptions of the flooring and sound deadening install starting [here].​

Parts List:
Here's a comprehensive list of parts I've ordered along with the price tag at the time I bought them and links to them. Don't forget about taxes, shipping, and have extra room in your budget for last-minute smaller items (guess what I forgot about?). They stack up fast. As my dad says, "Make your budget, then add 20%". This is a little low-balled as there are shop supplies, my own supplies, and some random miscellaneous parts I needed I didn't track that stacked up extra costs by a few hundred bucks.​
ItemNotesSupplierPNPriceLink
Engine enamelDupli-Color Cummins BeigeAmazon
$14.11​
[link]
Engine enamelDupli-Color BlackAmazon
$14.11​
[link]
Engine primerRust-Oleum GrayAmazon
$7.50​
[link]
Gas Tank Skid PlateAluminumDesolate MotorsportsDES-01053
$299.99​
[link]
Transmission Control ModuleDiesel Conversion Specialists2159
$750.00​
[link]
Adapter PlateDiesel Conversion Specialists2040
$769.00​
[link]
Flex Plate for 6.0 StarterDiesel Conversion Specialists1235
$550.00​
[link]
Engine Mountsw/ isolatorsDiesel Conversion Specialists2081
$350.00​
[link]
Oil Press., Water Temp., AdapterSensor adaptersDiesel Conversion Specialists1031
$30.00​
[link]
Tee Vacuum Line for BrakesIncl. w/ conversion kitDiesel Conversion Specialists[link]
Tachometer KitDiesel Conversion Specialists2142
$303.00​
[link]
AC compressor bracketDiesel Conversion Specialists3068
$595.00​
[link]
AC Compressor linesDiesel Conversion Specialists1027
$131.00​
[link]
AC Compressor, DodgeDiesel Conversion Specialists1386
$165.00​
[link]
Power Steering CouplerDiesel Conversion Specialists2351
$25.00​
[link]
Lower Water Neck (45 degree angle)Diesel Conversion Specialists3102
$110.00​
[link]
Upper Water Neck (vertical)Diesel Conversion Specialists1029
$80.00​
[link]
4BT 8V 3.9L CUMMINS LOWER GASKET SETDiesel Power ProductsDPP-3802375
$133.16​
[link]
4BT 8V 3.9L CUMMINS UPPER GASKET SETDiesel Power ProductsDPP-3804896
$91.23​
[link]
Triple Gauge Pod & GaugesBeige, 3 pod, gauges incl.GlowshiftGS-346T-C7-PKG
$239.96​
[link]
Gas tankPlasticJeff's Bronco Graveyard30216
$145.00​
[link]
Sending Unit SealJeff's Bronco Graveyard30243
$2.00​
[link]
Gas tank breather valveJeff's Bronco Graveyard30259
$16.00​
[link]
Breather Valve SealJeff's Bronco Graveyard30259S
$6.00​
[link]
Rollover Breather Valve?Try to reuse old oneJeff's Bronco Graveyard30260
$109.00
[link]
Rear Tank Filler HoseJeff's Bronco Graveyard30218
$25.00​
[link]
Upper Gas Tank StrapsJeff's Bronco Graveyard30272
$19.00​
[link]
Lower Gas Tank StrapsJeff's Bronco Graveyard30278
$45.00​
[link]
Diesel filler neck92-98 F350LMC Truck43-3331
$209.95​
[link]
Core Support 92-97 PSFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck43-2868-T
$229.95​
[link]
Radiator Insulator Set-LWRFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck43-0934
$11.95​
[link]
Reinforcement Support-LHFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck43-2870
$29.95​
[link]
Reinforcement Support-RHFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck43-2871
$29.95​
[link]
Bolt-SupportFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck50-0216
$0.95​
[link]
U-Nut-SupportFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck40-0888
$0.95​
[link]
Rad Core Mounting Kit 18pcFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck43-0963
$89.95​
[link]
Bracket-Radiator Core MountFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck45-1465
$29.95​
[link]
Bolt-Mount BracketFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck40-0591
$1.25​
[link]
Nut-Mount BracketFor 92-98 F350 Core SupportLMC Truck40-0871
$0.60​
[link]
Transmission Rebuild (96-97 PS converter)4r100 steel internalsMaryland Transmission Specialist
$3,810.74​
[link]
Pod, Gauges, SensorsCame w/GlowShift kit & wiringGlowshiftGS-346T-C7-PKG
$239.96​
[link]
Additional Sensor, different pod, additional gaugeCame w/GlowShift kit & wiringGlowshiftGS-346T-C7-PKG
$71.29​
4bt Cummins Diesel EngineCPL#1839 p7100 pumpOther
$3,500.00​
Dowel Pin Tab w/ BoltKiller dowel pin fixPower Driven Diesel54001010006
$125.00​
[link]
Budget Builder 3K/4K Governor SpringsAdded adjustment toolPower Driven Diesel60700000001
$150.00​
[link]
Adjustable Turbo Boost ElbowPower Driven Diesel10920920512
$20.00​
[link]
4BT Cummins 055 Fuel Delivery ValvesPower Driven Diesel62001020001
$130.00​
[link]
AFC LIVE in Cab Fuel TunerPower Driven Diesel61001010000
$345.00​
[link]
AFC Foot for AFC LIVE InstallationAdded on AFC Tuner PagePower Driven Diesel61001010008
$40.00​
[link]
AFC Max Travel KitAdded on AFC Tuner PagePower Driven Diesel61001010007
$35.00​
[link]
Machined 8v Rocker PedestalRequired for ARP Head StudsPower Driven Diesel51816141300-1
$200.00​
[link]
Intercooler pipesPossibly reuse banks pipesWit's End
$1,255.00​
[link]
Downpipe and exhaust4 inch exhaustWit's End
$1,309.50​
[link]
Dual Battery KitBroncoAir
$418.00​
[link]
LaborWit's End
$22,006.42​
[link]
Ford 6.0 PS StarterMean green starterXtreme Diesel PerformanceMG6670
$369.95​
[link]
Oil Remote Filter KitPacBrakeXtreme Diesel PerformancePBHP10007
$234.13​
[link]
Radiator - 96-97 PSMishimoto AluminumXtreme Diesel PerformanceMIMMRAD-F2D-95
$395.95​
[link]
Front Mount IntercoolerBanksXtreme Diesel PerformanceBP25970
$1,531.75​
[link]
PSC PK1490 High Performance Pump KitDodge Ram 2500/3500 4WDXtreme Diesel PerformancePSCPK1490
$460.75​
[link]
ARP 247-4206 Diesel Head Stud Kit3.9L Cummins 4BTXtreme Diesel PerformanceARP247-4206
$332.31​
[link]
Dorman 904-810 Vacuum PumpDodge 5.9L CumminsXtreme Diesel PerformanceDOR904-810
$236.87​
[link]
AFE 49-90002 Mach Force XP Exhaust Tip4" In x 5" Out x 12" LXtreme Diesel PerformanceAFE49-90002
$66.49​
[link]
12V FREEZE PLUG BLOCK HEATER (89-98)CPP Diesel3313272
$72.95​
[link]
Mishimoto Transmission cooler for 7.3lMishimotoMMTC-F2D-99SL
$349.95​
[link]
SEM Medium Prairie Tan Vinyl PaintAutoPlus Auto Parts
Vinyl Paint Adhesion PromoterAutoPlus Auto Parts
CLD, MLV, HMF, Butyl Rope, VelcroSound Deadener Showdown
$467.12​
CLD, Butyl Rope, VelcroResonix
$127.89​
[link]
Transmission cooler 11"American Volt
$137.75​
[link]
Ceramic tint
$950.00​
Mag Hytec Transmission PanMag-Hytec
$371.00​
[link]
Electric Radiator FansFF Dynamic
$550.00​
Turbo cartridge & Fuel pump governorRebuild / balance / advanced 14*
$1,604.15​
40/20/40 Seats & ReupholsteredUpholstered in Porsche Terracotta
$2,000.00​
Off Road Power Steering ReservoirPSC
$275.00​
[link]
Odyssey AGM Batteries x2950 cca eachAutozone65-PC1750T
$610.54​
[link]
Throttle Position SensorTCI377450
$229.95​
[link]

Questions & Answers:
Questions I or others have had and their answers. I'll do my best to keep updated here to help avoid people needing to dig through comments on this thread for answers.​
Is swapping the instrument cluster from a 96-97 F350 diesel OBS into a Bronco a straightforward swap?
This is not a straightforward swap. It's likely the PSOM will need to come with the cluster. Also try the OBS or PowerStrokeNation forums for more information (thanks TravisITGuy).​
Does anyone know how the glow plug indicator works on the 96-97 F350 diesel OBS instrument cluster?
It appears these years did not have a glow plug indicator, just a wait-to-start (WTS) light.​
Also, the 4bt does not have a glow plug. An engine block heater and/or a heater grid is recommended.​
The block heater will go into a freeze plug port. You can find a block heater here [link] (thanks curtwow).​
The heater grid installs between the intake elbow and the head of the engine. Image for heater grid here [link] (thanks texaswoodswalker893).​
What kind of mileage can I expect to get with a swap like this?
I will get a more accurate number through testing once the swap is complete. I have been told with my current drivetrain I can expect to see between 20-25mpg. I've seen a couple of posts say 30mpg and one say 35mpg. I imagine the higher numbers are without performance upgrades like I'm doing, even though what I'm doing I think is very mild.​
Should I upgrade the cooling system such as the radiator and fan?
Generally 4BT does not get very hot by design. Since you don't plan to boost 4BT (bigger turbo etc.), stock Bronco or F150 radiator is sufficient enough to cool that engine even in hot climate. The only recommendation would be to get rid of 4BT stock mechanical fan and replace it with el. fan for the case if you tow some heavy trailer uphill in hot climate. Recommended el. fan would be from Ford 500 or similar. Junk yards are full of these very powerful dual fans, but it would not be bolt on. That would be the only thing needed. Bigger radiator is unnecessary overkill [link](thanks @milan65).​
Will I need to upgrade the suspension?
That is up to you, but initially, no. The 4bt weighs in at ~750lbs depending on dressings and fluids [link]. The 351w weighs in at ~510lbs with block, heads, and manifolds alone [link] and [link]. If your Bronco has the dual shock and coilover suspension up front already because it had a v8 (I don't know about the i6 model) general consensus seems to be you'll be fine. Additionally, Diesel Conversion Specialists confirmed this under the the "Engine Weight" section on their instruction page here: [link]. Understand your ride will be a little more nose heavy, but no more than if you put a snow plow or a heavy duty bumper on the front of your rig.​

Story Time!
Would you like some pictures? And a story too? Here you go!​
But seriously, this is a story and not meant to be technical at all. I have crap memory so I figured I'd write down the journey here.​
20190727 - Toll Hell
I really hate tolls. Being from the West, I had never experienced them prior to moving East. It's especially expensive when you have a third axle... go figure. Borrowed the trailer from a buddy after work. Three states and several hours later I get to the seller's house just before dark. He's ready to go with a backhoe and four or so other guys to help load this engine on the trailer. Not going to lie, I was concerned carrying that much cash and being confronted with several guys, but they were all incredibly cool and helpful. Weighed down with ~1000lbs of new dead weight, I cruise to a friends place nearby-ish, do dinner, and get home Saturday early in the AM.​
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20190729 - Up A Creek
Finally get the trailer to (barely) fit in the garage. How the hell do I get this damn thing off the trailer? Time to shuffle things around and clean up this disaster of a man cave.​
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20190731 - Lost the Battle
Rented an engine lift and had just enough clearance. Turns out trying to get it lifted and maneuvered alone was a chore. Didn't die, though. I discovered much too late that the cherry picker was actually bad. Left leg was bent upward just enough and the boom twisted to the left just enough that when I got it in the air, it started leaning and falling toward that leg. I hopped on the back of the lift like I was doing a box jump at the Crossfit Open, and it was just enough to rock it back and put the three good points-of-contact on the ground. After much shouting and banging on the ceiling, my girlfriend came down and helped me get an old damaged rim under the engine so I could sit it down and not be stuck standing on the lift all night. Precarious, but it was late and I had work. Keeping the lift partially loaded with the weight and a good jiggle-check confirmed it was tomorrow's problem.​
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20190801 - Won the War
Attempt #2. I get the chain adjusted, shift the weight of the engine more toward the right leg, and voila! Finally get the dang thing off and tucked into the corner directly behind the lift on jackstands. The following day I take the cherry picker back and let the shop I rented it from know how it almost killed me. Y'know, brighten their day a little.​
Over the next couple of weeks I start unbolting the transmission since I'm not going to need it. I'm going to clean it up and paint it, I tell myself, before I take it to the shop and ask them to install it. Actual spoiler: I didn't clean it up before taking it to the shop. Two sheared off bolts and several days of soaking the sheared bolts in WD40 later, I decide the shop is better equipped to handle it.​
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20190926 - Best Laid Plans
Tons of research and lots of communicating with the shop happen. I've made the parts list. I've built too many spreadsheets, compiled too many interwebs links, and obtained copious amounts of information from diesel shops and vendors around the country. I'm good to go... I think. I pull the trigger.​
After the shop graciously lets me borrow their known-good lift and I recruit a long-time friend and his truck, the engine (and transmission) goes to the shop.​
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#145 · (Edited)
Bronco has to go to the shop for the transmission cooler, going to have a custom mounting point and mount fabbed up for it. So I need to get the driver seat back in... but I don't want to have to take it out again so I tried to bang out the front. It didn't work. It was 105 degrees today and after 5 hours I was definitely getting the dizzy, so I had to quit early and the driver seat will go in temporarily so I can take it to the shop.

Pulled the headliner off so I could get the roof done. These visors are a pain in the ass to pull off when you have no idea how they come out.
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The visors notch into this hole and twist to more or less lock them in place along with the three screws on this joint and one at the other end of the visor.
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You can see the bit that notches into the roof and the spring assembly that goes into the big hole.
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The headliner is held up by the center console, a plastic trim clip, one over the driver window and one over the passenger window, the visors, the dome light, and the trim covering the seam between the hard top and the actual roof.
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I cleaned the roof and applied the CLD tiles.
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Used 3m 90 high strength spray cement on this Hydrophobic Melamine Foam (HMF) as the second layer of sound deadening for the roof. It's a little thicker than I thought and the headliner is form fitted to the roof for the most part, so I went with the middle area over both front seat's heads, since it'll be more bendy in the middle.
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Putting the headliner back up by yourself is kind of tough. Getting it aligned with the HMF bulging it was interesting too, but it all worked out in the end. I also got some CLD and HMF behind both A pillar trims and got those reassembled. I also got CLD on the rear quarter panels. Lastly, I started fitting and trimming down the Mass-Loaded Vinyl (MLV) which will be the second layer of sound deadening for the floor.
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I had to quit after trimming up this first piece. Lots of placing, removing, cutting, repeat, and it was ridiculously hot and humid.
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#172 ·
Holy cow my data is a mess. I have the data some place, but life has been a bit psychotic lately. I will get that sorted and post the updates on the trip I took @milan65 !

@lhaskins123 I'm loving it actually. I feel bad for the neighbors, given I live in a neighborhood of townhouses, that the engine and exhaust is so loud they probably all hate me.
I have had a few small issues. The electric fans were configured to come on when the engine got hot, but not when the AC was on. During this last summer too much pressure built up as the refrigerant got too hot and blew a hose. Easy fix, and refill, and configured the fans to turn on when the AC is on or when the engine gets hot enough. I've also developed a small oil leak, I haven't looked into that just yet. The noise isn't too bad from inside since I did the sound deadening. Without it, though, I think it would be pretty intolerable. If you don't do a huge exhaust pipe like I did, it is probably tolerable as most of it I think is exhaust drone. The turbo is pretty dang loud, but I like listening to it haha. Vibration also isn't bad except when it's really cold, even if I had the block heater on. Once it warms up it completely smooths out. Before that, you don't get a lot of seat vibration but the dash (if anything is loose in it, like loose change in the ash tray) does vibrate enough to make noise sometimes (rarely, only when really cold). E4OD is doing just fine, and I'm not really all that gentle with it. I would have to stress that I had it rebuilt with the 4r100 steel internals, though, so that it could withstand the punishment. It's definitely putting down a ton of torque. Not winning any races though haha. The Bronco also handles just like it did before the swap. She squats a little in the front, but not terribly at all. I'm glad I kept the sway bar up front. I cruise comfortably at 75mph without the engine sounding like it's overrevving and working really hard.
 
#173 ·
Holy cow my data is a mess. I have the data some place, but life has been a bit psychotic lately. I will get that sorted and post the updates on the trip I took @milan65 !

@lhaskins123 I'm loving it actually. I feel bad for the neighbors, given I live in a neighborhood of townhouses, that the engine and exhaust is so loud they probably all hate me.
I have had a few small issues. The electric fans were configured to come on when the engine got hot, but not when the AC was on. During this last summer too much pressure built up as the refrigerant got too hot and blew a hose. Easy fix, and refill, and configured the fans to turn on when the AC is on or when the engine gets hot enough. I've also developed a small oil leak, I haven't looked into that just yet. The noise isn't too bad from inside since I did the sound deadening. Without it, though, I think it would be pretty intolerable. If you don't do a huge exhaust pipe like I did, it is probably tolerable as most of it I think is exhaust drone. The turbo is pretty dang loud, but I like listening to it haha. Vibration also isn't bad except when it's really cold, even if I had the block heater on. Once it warms up it completely smooths out. Before that, you don't get a lot of seat vibration but the dash (if anything is loose in it, like loose change in the ash tray) does vibrate enough to make noise sometimes (rarely, only when really cold). E4OD is doing just fine, and I'm not really all that gentle with it. I would have to stress that I had it rebuilt with the 4r100 steel internals, though, so that it could withstand the punishment. It's definitely putting down a ton of torque. Not winning any races though haha. The Bronco also handles just like it did before the swap. She squats a little in the front, but not terribly at all. I'm glad I kept the sway bar up front. I cruise comfortably at 75mph without the engine sounding like it's overrevving and working really hard.

I appreciate the reply. I am incredibly torn ... either doing a similar build as you did with a 4bt and rebuild on my E4OD or going with a R2.8 and a 6R80 trans. my goal is 200hp 400lbs. very possible with either option just looking for reliability for some high milage road trips / overlanding i have planned in late 2023.

Again, I appreciate you taking the time to reply. Awesome build!
 
#128 · (Edited)
The Bronco is finally ready for road testing. We will start that on Monday. Outside of that the only thing left is an AC hose that we are waiting to arrive on Monday, and a couple of decals for the windows. Now we can get to tuning the engine with the AFC live tuner, get the idle adjusted properly, and program the transmission.

The sway bar drop brackets are gussetted and the sway bar is bolted up.
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Intake is welded up and fits perfectly. Looks like it touches the radiator but it doesn't. Intake is additionally mounted to the top of the AC bracket from DCS. The bracket was drilled and tapped and the intake bolted to it. Also I said before it's titanium, but it isn't. It's aluminum.
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Aluminum upper and lower lines were welded up for the cooling as well with a fill neck and a drain plug respectively.
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#135 · (Edited)
Huzzah! We are here! The time has finally arrived that the swap is (mostly) complete! There are a few odds and ends missing that will get worked out over the next few weeks, but the Bronco is in my possession and is being driven daily as of two days ago! Here she is as she sits yesterday:

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Here is a shot of the finished exhaust. The 4" tip is much bigger than I thought it'd be...

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And the (mostly) complete engine bay!
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@milan65 I hope it was worth the wait and the ride was good haha. Thanks for yours and everyone else's help! Of course the build isn't done by a long shot, but this is how she'll sit for the most part while my pocketbook pulls itself together.

The things that are missing:
  • The transmission isn't cooling quickly enough. It slowly heats up over an hour or two of driving and I haven't pushed it passed 200 degrees. So an American Volt 11" cooler is on the way and will be installed when it gets here next week.
  • It appears the rear main seal is slowly leaking. It's a brand new seal... so not sure why that would be the case.
  • The tachometer still doesn't work. Given that the timing wheel (remachined as some of the points were off, gouging the sensor), the sensor (tested with a known good), the bracket (machined to be more secure and not move), and the wires (tested for current) have all been tested and looked at closely, I'm wondering if it's the gauge itself. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You'll know when you turn it on because it'll either stay at 0 or just magically work when started. I found something about conductive glue leaking onto the circuit board, and to pick it off, so I'll try looking for that soon.
  • 1-2 shift is really hard. But the controller is programmable so I'll see if I can soften it up that way. If not, at 500 miles I'm getting all the fluids changed and when the transmission fluid gets changed, I'll ask them to soften up the 1-2 shift.
  • It definitely feels underpowered, but I've been playing with the AFC live tuner and am waking it up a little. Also taking it to a tuning shop in a couple weeks to see if they can help out. I'd like to see ~22lbs of boost and was initially getting 5, now up to 10.
  • The idle appears to still be around 400, and when manually holding the throttle at 600+ all vibrations go away. Otherwise, it's still vibrating pretty hard. I'll adjust that soon.
  • When pumping diesel into it, the diesel fuel immediately back-fills out of the neck and splatters everywhere. Seems like something is probably not venting correctly. But I have no idea what. I had to let an actual trickle of fuel into the neck to get anything into it, and only got a half tank in 15 minutes. That's pretty hard to do with modern gas pumps haha...

The [Good] Surprises
  • The AC blows way colder and works a lot better at low RPMs (Chrysler AC unit).
  • The power steering is so good, I can steer with a literal single finger on top of the wheel (Dodge PS unit).
  • The braking feels a lot better, presumably because better vacuum pump. I don't have to push nearly as hard to get the same kind of braking.
  • Bumps are significantly less jarring, presumably because heavier front end (~250+ lbs heavier engine).
  • When at a higher idle, there's almost no vibration.
  • Cornering feels the same or better. Glad I retained the sway bar with extended mounts.

Near Future Things:
This stuff I already have in my garage and will give me something to do.
  • I'll be adding two US Flag decals to the hard top windows.
  • I'll be installing the reupholstered 40/20/40 seats and seat belts soon.
  • I'll be putting in a new black vinyl flooring after sound deadening.
  • I'll test for MPG before and after tuning, and before and after sound deadening.
  • Speaking of, I'll also be installing sound deadening as the new seats and flooring go in. I'll get decibel measurements (just with my phone) before and after deadening, and I still have my readings from my stock engine too, for comparison. It's all stuff I got from Sound Deadener Showdown right before he unexpectedly shut down his business.
  • I'll be trying to fix my stupid-slow rear window with new regulators, tracks, felt... pretty much everything except the motor. The only motor I can find is at BroncoGraveyard, and it said something about redrilling and I don't feel like doing that.
  • I'll be installing a double-din stereo kit from OBS Interiors. That'll take some work, the shop has made the necessary brackets for me and I'm still looking for a good stereo. I'm thinking of an octacore android head unit with a 9" or 10.1" screen so I can support good gps, hands-free stuff, and an aftermarket TPMS setup.
 
#142 ·
When pumping diesel into it, the diesel fuel immediately back-fills out of the neck and splatters everywhere. Seems like something is probably not venting correctly. But I have no idea what. I had to let an actual trickle of fuel into the neck to get anything into it, and only got a half tank in 15 minutes. That's pretty hard to do with modern gas pumps haha..
Find a diesel truck in the junkyard.The steel filler neck that bolts into the fender behind the door is different; the diesel trucks have an external vent built into them that leads back to the top of the tank. it helps them to fill faster. Swap that into your bronco, that should fix your problem.

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#164 · (Edited)
After a metric F***load of finagling and forcing, I was able to get the seats to bolt up without drilling or bending. It looks really good to me. The terracotta vinyl on the black flooring with the medium mocha interior isn't as contrasting as I thought it might end up being, which I like. Added benefit: the new seats cover up most of the bad parts of the floor. Also, they sit a bit higher than the captain chairs, which I love. They feel more comfortable to me.

I still have more heatgun treatments to do on the floor, more trimming to do, and some more trim to sound-deaden and install, but it's drivable and probably 80% done now. I haven't done the door panels at all as I'm waiting for more materials to do it, but damn is it quiet!

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Additionally, I took a preliminary sound measurement. Here's a sneak peak at some of my data:

Pre Sound Deadening (Gas Engine) in Decibels (dB) - 77°F, wind < 5mph
Engine OffIdle30 MPH50 MPH70 MPH
4758707479
41.156.669.773.477.5
43.55870.273.579.4

Pre Sound Deadening (Diesel Engine) in Decibels (dB) - 80°F, wind < 5mph
Engine OffIdle30 MPH50 MPH70 MPH
3981858788
3585848687
3283848587

Post sound-deadening with a diesel engine today (I didn't get temp or wind, just a quick reading out of curiosity), I had 28dB with the engine off. It seems small, but 10dB I understand to be the difference between a whisper and a yell, so this is pretty significant to me. Additionally, I haven't done the door panels and some of the trim still needs sound-deadened and reinstalled, so I have many places for sound leaks. It's made a MASSIVE difference in my opinion, especially since I've eliminated all squeaks and rattles except in the door panels.
 
#109 · (Edited)
The gauges are completed as much as they can be and are operable as far as can be tested. They even dim when the headlights are turned on. Can't start the engine yet, but we're closer! Also that choice in paint for the pod was really close, I like it. I wouldn't notice the difference if I wasn't looking for it.
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  • The shop found and is attempting to use a setup from TCI Automotive to solve the Throttle Position Sensor problem we've been having. It'll essentially be a cable with a TPS mount which will likely attach to the firewall between the throttle and the fuel pump. Hopefully that will solve my auto-trans throttle woes.
  • The fuel sock from a 6.0 is being used and will be cut to length for the fuel tank, then the tank can be mounted and lines run.
  • The hood latch support beam is too short now that I have the deeper core support. This will attempt to be extended or hood pins will be used. I'm hoping the extension will work and I'm also going to see if I can't source the longer beam.
  • The engine harness has been routed and mounted back up in the engine bay, looks super clean. I'll get a pic in the near future.
  • Transmission cooling lines have been hooked up to the auxiliary cooling ports on the aluminum radiator.
  • Getting the transmission controller and the overdrive on/off switch on the shift lever to be properly wired seems to be an issue. Still working that out with the controller manufacturer.
  • Crash sensors are mounted back up to the core support as well. The core support didn't have the mount points threaded so some rivnuts resolved that.
 
#161 ·
Started putting down MLV and CCF on the passenger side quarter and wheel well.
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Replacing the 6 rear seat bolts with grade 8 stainless.
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Drilled through the sound deadening to place the bolts. Also put up more HMF. Half of them won't thread and I'm not sure why.
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Foam on the rear speakers disintegrated, so I replaced it with CCF. Drilled through the deadening so I can secure the speaker in it's place as well.
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Passenger side is complete. Time for new flooring and putting the trim back on.
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Passenger side wheel well vinyl placed. Might need to heatgun it to get it to lay out flat.
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#52 · (Edited)
TLDR; So it turns out if you want to put ARP studs on an 8 valve or 12 valve cummins, you have to machine the rocker pedestals. Their instructions they include with the studs give the proper dimensions and whatnot. Well, ain't nobody got time for that, so I got some from Power Driven Diesel.

When I called ARP, I talked to two different technicians. The first one informed me the reason to machine the pedestal is to provide clearance for the valve cover as there are protrusions on the inside of the valve cover that will contact the oversized ARP nut and not allow for a proper seal. This can subsequently cause oil to leak all over the backside of the engine and over the transmission, he told me. He said to grind down the protrusions and I'll be good to go, no needing to machine.

After getting off of the phone, I got to thinking... why would it be out of the back? I have four separate valve covers, not a single one, and they should all leak if that were true. So I figured he was talking about a common rail 4bt, which I don't have. I call them back, got someone else, and after relaying what the last tech told me, some hold time while he talked to another tech, and lots of repeating what he said to make sure I wasn't stupid, he told me I must machine the pedestals as there isn't enough stud for the nut to secure onto if you don't, and that machining has nothing to do with the valve cover. Insert dramatic sigh here.

So I do some research online. I can find precious little, but the little I do find tells me that these two answers are based on two different versions of studs ARP has produced, henceforth known as the "old style" and "new style". The short of it is the old style allows for just grinding down the inside of the valve cover and the newer ones require machining the pedestals due to shorter studs. Here are some resources I used to deduce that: [link][link][link]

To hell with this. Let's call someone who actually has done the install and can tell me. I call PDD, relay the situation, and ask them. Oh yeah, they do this install all the time. You do need to machine the pedestals because there isn't enough stud to seat the nut onto. However, you don't need to drill and tap the block deeper to receive the head studs, as the ARP install documentation says. They never have and have been just fine. What you do have to do is make sure the existing taps are very clean, vacuumed out, no fluid or debris in them before installing the studs. If you don't, they told me, you have a much higher risk of cracking the block. Good to know! Well, if you send PDD cores, they will send you used pedestals, or you can order new ones. I went the new route. So now I'm only waiting on that. Got my Dodge A/C manifold in, just needs to be crimped to the ford lines. Then it's just fluids, filters, and I have all the parts I need (I hope).
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#67 ·
Thanks for those recommendations! Briefly looking around - upgraded driveshafts are really expensive haha.. I'll have to run the numbers. Thanks for the recommendations on the crank breather kit, I think I'll do one of those kits soon after everything is done. I definitely don't want the spots in the driveway, and I'm glad you mentioned it. After everything is installed and running, I'll add one. I was looking at suppliers for the batteries you suggested and all sellers seem to be on the west coast. I hadn't planned to go the optima route, but I think I may have to find a different brand of battery on the east coast.

It looks like they are well along with putting the engine back together now, and for now I'm just going to go with the dangling hose method for the crank breather haha. Doesn't look bad, it's a bit more exciting now that I'm seeing it coming together.
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#82 ·
All right, time for a long overdue update! I apologize for the wait, but not too much has happened (completely understandably) because of the holidays.

Whelp, I'm a bit more relaxed now that I've finally finished college, we're passed the holidays, and I've got a little downtime, so hopefully lower stress now @curtwow haha.

@milan65 the mounts I got are from Diesel Conversion Specialists and they've been running these mounts in their F150's and Broncos since they developed them a few years ago. Hopefully they are good enough. They were so damn heavy haha and I have some pictures of how the engine sits in the truck with those mounts now with this update.

Finally got the oil line and fitting in for the vacuum pump (that feeds oil from the block to the pump), and after about 4 weeks of waiting, the fuel line clamp. Both of those are installed.

I returned the 3 gauge pod for a 4 gauge as the shop and I figure I should probably also have an oil pressure gauge. They didn't have a tan 4 gauge pod so I'm going to paint that up with SEM's Medium Prairie Tan as someone [here] mentioned that should be a very close match to the Medium Mocha interior of my Bronco, and some vinyl and plastic adhesion promoter. Also got the 4 gauge power harness and oil pressure gauge to match.

The engine and transmission are in the Bronco now and everything fit together great! Although it's a pretty tight fit between the engine and crossmember, and the AC and alternator to the passenger side.
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Had a small issue with the tach sensor. This plate is for the tachometer sensor and it has 4 'bumps' for the sensor to detect as the wheel spins. The sensor is directly above this wheel at the top. Some grinding was necessary to get that sensor bracket to fit, but it worked out in the end. This is the recommended mounting location according to DCS.
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Overall, the adapter kit from DCS made installing the engine, fitting the transmission to the engine in its original mounting location, and installing the Mean Green 6.0 starter a breeze! Also added the Mag Hytec E4OD/4R100 pan to increase the amount of fluid and cooling potential for the transmission. Using the Mag Hytec pan has the added benefit of adding a transmission temperature sensor directing to the pan rather than the pressure test port on the transmission.
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Everything fit well, even with the rear/bottom dump exhaust manifold... except the outlet for the turbo is 3 inches and there isn't 3 inches of space between the transmission and firewall. Rather than beat and modify the firewall, we're going to try a center dump manifold.
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We tried flipping the existing manifold but the high mount AC bracket and the mounting bracket for lifting the engine are in the way. I'll likely have to do a top mount with the center dump manifold like this, rather than a bottom mount.
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Next is to try and plumb everything. Ran into the next issue, but this one was anticipated. Here is a view of the 7.3l diesel radiator trying to fit in a Bronco core support. As you can see... it doesn't fit. The diesel F250 and F350 core supports are the same, and are deeper than the F150 and Bronco core support, which are also the same.
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Here is a view of the 7.3l F250/F350 core support. This shows the added depth to the bottom of the core support to fit the extra radiator space.
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Here is the size difference between the V8 gas radiator and the 7.3l diesel radiator. I got the Mishimoto OEM aluminum replacement to hopefully make the Bronco longer lasting, better cooling, and a bit more future proof.
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Because the new core support is so much deeper, I think I'm going to have an issue with this sway bar being in the way. Will likely have to add an inch or two spacer for the sway bar mounts. I'm open to suggestions on this. I imagine the TTB F250's also had the same sway bar setup, but I have no idea if the TTB F250's even came with a diesel engine. I imagine they might have done a solid axle for the diesel versions? I'm not sure.
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I also decided to go with a stand-alone electric fan with an independent controller, rather than a mechanical one. I'm still shopping but it looks like I'm going with a 14in Hayden fan and controller. It takes up less space, and is less likely to wear out as quickly as a mechanical fan I think. Also the mechanical stuff got thrown out by accident, so that kind of helped that decision along haha. The center dump manifold will be ordered in the next day hopefully. It's also worth mentioning that the banks intercooler is HUGE. It's almost as big as the Bronco radiator, but not quite as thick. The plus is it really is pretty much bolt on. Cutting the F350 core support will not be required, and the intercooler plumbing will wrap around the 7.3l radiator just fine without touching anything. Also, after playing around with the idea with the shop, I think the intercooler and downpipe plumbing is going to be titanium which should be fun and interesting. It dissipates heat really quickly and is much lighter than stainless.
 
#83 ·
All right, time for a long overdue update! I apologize for the wait, but not too much has happened (completely understandably) because of the holidays.

Whelp, I'm a bit more relaxed now that I've finally finished college, we're passed the holidays, and I've got a little downtime, so hopefully lower stress now @curtwow haha.

@milan65 the mounts I got are from Diesel Conversion Specialists and they've been running these mounts in their F150's and Broncos since they developed them a few years ago. Hopefully they are good enough. They were so damn heavy haha and I have some pictures of how the engine
Any progress since this update?
 
#104 ·
Once your conversion is done and your BKO is up and running - I'll submit you for FOTM. It will be pretty interesting reading. Your expectations (how quickly and cheaply this can be done). All the drama with shop. All the online searches you did, gathering parts, costs etc... Your detailed write up incl. cost is useful for other to see what's involved. Comparing your conversion with the pathetic efforts of some folks posting in FOTM - you should easily win. Given you posted with the same writing style and tons of pictures. It would be small retribution for all the headaches you are going through right now. Milan
 
#107 ·
Here's another small update:

The FF Dynamics custom fan setup bolted right up no problem (glad for that).
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Leaves plenty of space between the engine and fans.
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Fan relay and controller mounted on the passenger fender well behind the battery.
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Fans are mounted with clips that push through the radiator fins and are secured on the opposite side of the radiator.
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Power steering lines are plumbed in and completed. Auxiliary port is capped as shown at the top of the photo.
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#116 ·
I have a loose idea of how many man hours. I requested an itemized invoice to get an exact count, so I'll let you know once I get that. I've been paying installments as we go. As far as a projection, I didn't have any projected expectations because I had no experience or idea what a project like this took, unfortunately.

The titanium charge pipes are done. Still thinking on how to do the intake. I think maybe just a filter attached directly to the turbo. Gotta find one that'll fit though.
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The fuel shutoff solenoid is wired up with an 80 amp relay. The relay is mounted on the passenger side shown below. The continuous 12v run signal is coming off the previous MAF wire.
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The new TPS setup is in. Just gotta figure out how to bolt it up for my configuration.
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Also, the fuel sock for a 6.0 powerstroke came in and only required welding up some 5/8" line. The sock is on, sending unit and pickup lines in and wired, and the tank installed. Getting exciting, hoping we might get a first start out of it next week.
 
#137 ·
I will as soon as I get all the receipts and everything together. I'm gathering all the stuff I didn't write details about over the last several months and trying to make it make sense haha.

So I found out something through lots of testing over the last few days... it was around 450, it looks like my tach is reading correctly when it works, but that was happening because my AC was apparently massively leeching power from the engine. I played with the idle and warmed the engine up over the weekend for 2 days, and got it in a good place. AC consistently robs ~300-350rpm from the engine currently. Stick it in drive and step on the pedal and lose another ~100. Idle is good now though I think, ~750 cold and ~850-900 warm (no ac, trans in park).

I took more measurements over the weekend and there is a night and day difference in noise between the gas and diesel engine. I think a lot of it comes from the mufflerless exhaust, and massive tip, to be honest. I'll post those numbers up soon, soon as I've finished sound deadening and can put them all up together. On the plus side, the diesel consistently makes roughly the same amount of noise, regardless of idling up through 70mph.

I'm using the whole shabang, Constrained Layer Damper, Mass Loaded Vinyl paired with Closed Cell Foam, and Hydrophobic Melamine Foam. I've got some Butyl rope for weird tight vibration sources too. I may even try putting down a padded layer on top of all that in the bed under the new flooring. I don't know if that'll help sound, but it'll make it a little softer back there haha.

I tried to fix the tach issue with something I found on FSB, something about glue used on the circuit board becoming hard and conductive, and to scrape it off. So I did that, but it didn't help. I have discovered that the tach will either work and give a reading, or it will give zero reading. Nothing in between. No bouncing or anything. I have to have the truck on, but not started, for ~5 seconds before starting, or the tach won't work. Super weird.. dunno what to make of it. Here's a pic of the glue, it's the dull brownish substance on this board. I scraped it off and no difference in how the tach behaves.
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Pretty spacious once you get the back seat out.
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#163 · (Edited)
I've been doing work for most of the last 7 days, 8-12 hours each day, to get this stuff done before I go back to work tomorrow. Way more work than I anticipated. That was more exercise than I've had in probably 2 years! Anyway, here's what we have:

I started applying the new vinyl flooring I purchased from Bronco Graveyard (been sitting in the garage for over a year). The old beige carpeting was trashed. I kept the tailgate carpet, though, to match the trim around the sides and because the new flooring kit didn't come with a tailgate piece. Be aware of that if you buy from JBG. The gaps for the wheel wells in the bottom flooring are much bigger than the wheel wells. Hopefully the excess for the wheel wells will fill the gaps without looking too bad. Still gotta cut out the center where the rear seat locks in, and drill holes for the seat and seatbelt mounts. I used the heat gun to get the wrinkles out and, believe it or not, this looks way better than when I initially put it in. It's going to need a lot more massaging to get it flat before I start drilling and reinstalling things.
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Started laying CCF and MLV in the cabin area.
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Needed heavy boxes to keep the MLV down on the bit that attached the cargo area to the cabin area while the vinyl cement set.
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Used industrial velcro to keep the MLV tight to the dropoff from the cargo area and help keep the flooring from coming up for whatever reason.
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Much easier to drill holes and cut holes through the CCF and vinyl one layer at a time, rather than both at the same time. Also contouring around bends sucks.
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More CCF down for the rest of the floor in the cabin.
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Putting MLV on this one elevated place under the center console took forever. Lots of cutting, cementing, and force and pressure to keep the MLV down while it set.
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These instructions are bull. I did this and it still doesn't form correctly. Heat gun was the only way for me and even that doesn't work completely, maybe 80% if you have something heavy you can put on the vinyl to make it stay in a shape you want while it cools.
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Finally finished the transmission hump. Lot's of velcro used here to keep the contours over the odd shapes.
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I had excess CCF, so I put it over the top of the sound deadening vinyl, and under the flooring vinyl to add some softness to the cargo area and prevent any rubbing or rattling noises between the vinyl layers.
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Starting to reinstall some trim. I had to install and uninstall several times to perfect where to trim the flooring so everything would fit okay. One specific example is the HMF white foam got in the way of the rear cup holders in these cargo side panels. I had to cut away a section to allow these to close. Even then, just the MLV and CCF made it a little tough to close them. The backs of these cargo side panels have padding. I had to cut away the section behind the pocket and use high-strength spray cement to hold the rest of the padding in place. Leaving the padding on the back of the pocket caused the panel to bulge a lot, that's why I had to remove it.
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Padding removed from behind the pocket on the side panel.
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Also reinstalled the mounts for the rear seat amongst this disaster of tools and things.
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Padding came with the cabin flooring, so I positioned and trimmed it as necessary and used the 3m Hi-Strength 90 spray cement.
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The front flooring required a massive amount of trimming, refuses to let me get the creases and things out, and has contours built-in in the wrong places, particularly in the center console area. Because of this, the front floor looks like shit.
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Preview of my struggles getting the F250 reupholstered 40/20/40 seats and seatbelts in. I gave up for the night to finish it in the morning.
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Lastly, I also tightened up the strikers on both doors to see if that would help my water-pooling-on-the-floorboard issue, and it did! The last rain (a couple of days ago) and I had zero water on the floor. Huzzah!
 
#185 ·
That's pretty incredible @milan65, damn!

Well, I've updated the original post on page 1 with updated information on figures and everything, updated language to be past-tense, added information that wasn't there in the plan and parts sections, and added the running video... andyeah. I think it's in it's final form and won't be updated again.

Cost estimates of this build:
Labor: $22,006.42
Parts: $28,575.45
Total: $50,581.87

I included stuff outside of just the engine swap like interior things, dual battery kit, sound deadening, etc that happened all at once while the swap was happening. So really this isn't the cost of a swap. The numbers are in the original post so you all can pick and choose to find out what the swap itself might cost in parts. Most of the labor was swap specific though. This total also doesn't include random miscellaneous costs such as shop supplies or my supplies, coolant, paper towels, oil, refrigerant, etc. Small stuff I never tracked.

Learning has occurred, and it was awesome getting to do all this stuff to it. I wouldn't trade those experiences for anything. No regrets.

Here are some estimated stats:

Average Economy: ~22mpg
Guesstimate HP: ~200hp
Guesstimate TQ: ~500lbft
Smiles per mile: Yes

She's a very comfortable daily 😁 Got everything I was shooting for with this build.
 
#6 ·
Are you sure you have 4BT engine? There's no glow plug in 4BT. The only electrical wiring on that engine is the fuel solenoid. I have 4BT P7100 from 1998 in my BKO and there is no glow plug. Did they even make 4BTs in 2004? Maybe it was recon in 2004. Anyway, post your progress/pictures. Let me know if you have any question, I'm almost done with my swap. Thank you @LVSteve for showing me this tread. Milan
 
#41 · (Edited)
I'm on year four of my build I've driven it for two years now but just take it easy mine spent nearly 12 full months at shop getting swapped. I enjoy the research part as it appears you do. I wasn't smart enough to post here while doing my search on the engine so some stuff I or my builder had to figure out along the way (like the vacuum pump). If I can offer any advice don't get stressed, enjoy every aspect, and it will all come together.
Not to say that you shouldn't keep an eye on what's going on there was another 4bt swap that was absolutely disastrous I cant' remember his name but it did not end well. I was fortunate enough to have a builder/ machine shop who had done several 6bt's into older vehicles whom I've known most of my life to do mine. There were a couple of things I had to address after he was done but for the most part I got exactly what I expected.
It is almost comical to me how similar your motivations were to mine. I had this Bronco with a tired engine and was pricing out new pickups, one day I got to thinking about daily driving the bronco and before you knew it I had purchased a 4bt on ebay. I'm in the car business and the amount of depreciation people take on vehicles is mind boggling. Classics just don't seem to be affected. Even on pickup trucks most people loose between 7 and 10,000 per year. I'm not stating I expect to get every dime back out I put in however it will/ should be much closer then even a couple of years depreciation for a new vehicle and I get more enjoyment out of it than any of the other 25 or so cars I've owned.
 
#51 · (Edited)
I have added all of the links and part numbers for things in the Parts List in the OP that I could find. The Parts List won't get updated except to add new parts if I need more.

Update:

Not every day I get to see the Bronco this barren, especially underneath. A lot cleaner than I expected as far as rust goes. There isn't much except on the frame horns on the front, the tow package and hitch, the cross members holding the gas tank, and the rear leaf spring hangers.
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Fuel tank cross members and hitch assembly are all rusty, but some stabbing around it showed it's surface. A wire wheel and POR15 will fix that up since it's all apart anyway. Likely get the rear leaf spring hangers too while at it, and put a little hole in the bottom of the hangers to allow drainage.
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ARP head studs documentation. Pretty confused because instructions say to mill the pedestals, but they look like they are flat already? Or maybe a step needs to be milled into it? Definitely not just bolt on like I was told.. I'll call ARP and find out.
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#101 ·
Wow... I can't believe it's been a month since the last update. Sorry about that. This last bit is going very slowly. All of the gauges and the pod for them are in and the exhaust is almost all there, just missing the last bend and the tip, but otherwise not much progress has been made. I spent quite a lot of time researching the throttle issue and just can't come up with a good bolt-on solution that isn't going to cost me 1k+. I asked the shop to fab up something and work their magic on it. Things have been going slowly at the shop, I think because of a large influx of other vehicles and some incidents such as not being able to pull cars into the bay due to an immobile truck blocking the bay door. I was very hopeful to be done by mid Feb, but I guess beginning of March? Still need charge piping and intake lines, fuel lines, coolant lines, and AC lines plumbed, and the transmission controller, AFC live tuner, electric fans, and power steering pump reservoir to be installed. Now that I'm typing this out and realizing what is left, I'm moderately concerned about the last month and am getting a lot more anxious about getting it finished.
 
#103 ·
Haha I sure hope that doesn't happen, but I'm expecting something to since so many thing have changed and were touched. That sucks about dying in the middle of the road though.

The last month and a half hasn't yielded much work, but after asking a few questions, plumbing supplies got ordered, so hopefully not far away now...

The AFC Live tuning unit has been mounted in the cab and lines installed to the AFC unit on the ppump.
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This is where the screw to adjust the wastegate psi is, easy to reach.
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The power steering pump has been mounted as close to "over" the power steering pump as possible.
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The intercooler has been mounted up in what looks like it's final resting place. I think the back of the grill and maybe the subframe that holds the grill and headlights will need to be heavily trimmed to allow this to fit.
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#106 ·
Thanks gents! I appreciate that! Once everything is settled, I'll be going through to double check all my numbers on costs and updating that table, cleaning up the OP, and that will be that I hope haha until the next thing I do right after I get it back. Sound deadening and replacing the front seats with a 40/20/40 setup I had reupholstered.
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